Agonist Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 I'm not sure if anyone has suggested this already or even mentioned it, but the pre-order crystals are lame. Why is it that the cartel crystals get L50 stats for level 10, yet those of us with pre-order get a crappy black-yellow crystal that's +4 endurance at level 7. Those pre-order crystals should be no different than the cartel crystals. You might actually see people using their pre-order crystals then. Yes, I know there is a vender that sells the higher end ones, but why the frik am I paying credits for a crystal that I was supposed to have got for simply pre-ordering this game?
Doctoglethorpe Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 They also cost a lot more then they're worth as well. Whole thing is kind of a slap to the face, but at least they added the vendor at all. Back at launch you got the +4 crystal at the start and that was it, was completely useless a day later. So... progress?
jedip_enguin Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 Colour crystals should have been statless since day one and used purely for aesthetics. Would have eliminated ******** problems like this.
Agonist Posted March 4, 2013 Author Posted March 4, 2013 Statless crystals would solve this for sure. Add another slot "power crystals" and "color crystals" that way you get the bonus + you get to pick your own color.
Neminos Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 Colour crystals should have been statless since day one and used purely for aesthetics. Would have eliminated ******** problems like this. This.
MasterKhan Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 I still use my pre-order crystals. Of course, only from level 7 until the next best crystal, then once I hit 50 and have enough creds to buy the level 50 version. And yes, I do think that because I did pre-order, I shouldn't have to pay to get the same color of crystal at level 50 as the one I got when I was level 1. It was nice of them to put in the vendor, that way I could get the same color crystal to use in end-game, but still, to have to pay for it? As for that suggestion of separating crystals into color and power (stat bonus) crystals, didn't they do that for KOTOR? It seems like a good idea, but I would think to implement it at this stage could mean a near complete overhaul of the weapon and inventory system in order to track the separate crystals. It could end up generating a lot more bugs than both the players and Bioware are prepared and/or willing to deal with.
Koyaanisqat Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 Don't you think you're blowing this out of proportion, OP? I mean, other than the cartel ones, they are equivalent to the best crystals that can be made or found anywhere in the game for that level. They're also relatively cheap, especially the +41 Expertise crystals. Others would go for hundreds of thousands, considering the unique look yellow-cored crystals have.
Agonist Posted March 4, 2013 Author Posted March 4, 2013 Don't you think you're blowing this out of proportion, OP? I mean, other than the cartel ones, they are equivalent to the best crystals that can be made or found anywhere in the game for that level. They're also relatively cheap, especially the +41 Expertise crystals. Others would go for hundreds of thousands, considering the unique look yellow-cored crystals have. My problem is that people that pay hundreds of thousands of credits for the level 10 +41 expertise crystal that they can use from level 10-50. The +41 expertise crystals from the vender are 250k + L50. Meaning we get to use our crystal level 7-10, then 50+. Might as well use cartel crystals! If you don't understand what I'm getting at, then oh well. others feel the same way I do.
Andryah Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 Statless crystals would solve this for sure. Add another slot "power crystals" and "color crystals" that way you get the bonus + you get to pick your own color. Well, there has been developer chatter along these lines for some time now, so I think it is only a matter of time before it happens. And they have proven that they can issue "replacement" gear in mass via email too... so at some point when they are ready they can patch in an update to have two crystal slots and then scan our accounts and send us new crystal sets to address personal updates/adjustments.
Andryah Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 (edited) My problem is that people that pay hundreds of thousands of credits for the level 10 +41 expertise crystal that they can use from level 10-50. The +41 expertise crystals from the vender are 250k + L50. Meaning we get to use our crystal level 7-10, then 50+. Might as well use cartel crystals! If you don't understand what I'm getting at, then oh well. others feel the same way I do. True, but to most people, the Pre-Order crystals are ugly anyway. Personally, I like them in blaster weapons, but there are better Cartel choices on the GTN now so I never use the pre-order ones anymore. At level 50, I'd still go for one of the other color choices for both blasters and sabers personally. The pre-order crystals were the "shiny of the week" at launch. But that was a year ago. Personally, I've moved on. Edited March 4, 2013 by Andryah
Stoicraven Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 I'm not sure if anyone has suggested this already or even mentioned it, but the pre-order crystals are lame. Why is it that the cartel crystals get L50 stats for level 10, yet those of us with pre-order get a crappy black-yellow crystal that's +4 endurance at level 7. Those pre-order crystals should be no different than the cartel crystals. You might actually see people using their pre-order crystals then. Yes, I know there is a vender that sells the higher end ones, but why the frik am I paying credits for a crystal that I was supposed to have got for simply pre-ordering this game? because when you pre-ordered the game way back when the cartel market did not exist! The pre-order crystal sucks anyway and if you're making a big deal out of this.........yeah n'm waste of thread
Koyaanisqat Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 My problem is that people that pay hundreds of thousands of credits for the level 10 +41 expertise crystal that they can use from level 10-50. The +41 expertise crystals from the vender are 250k + L50. Meaning we get to use our crystal level 7-10, then 50+. Might as well use cartel crystals! If you don't understand what I'm getting at, then oh well. others feel the same way I do. And you'll still pay much less for the same end-game bonus with the pre-order ones, moreso if you have a 400 artifice who has every purple crystal RE'd. So every 8-levels or so, new crystal, then back to the pre-order ones.
Doctoglethorpe Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 Statless crystals would solve this for sure. Add another slot "power crystals" and "color crystals" that way you get the bonus + you get to pick your own color. Just like kotor. Ahhhhhh wouldn't it be nice.
Jeweledleah Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 I don't know about you all, but if you don't care much about the color - +41 to whatever stat crystals are very cheap. on my server, you can get cartel market crystals for a bit above 100k right now - at least indestructable and war hero ones. IMO, preorder crystals are far too expensive. and while some of you don't like the color, others might not have the same taste as you do. just becasue something is not useful to you personal, doesn't mean it shouldn't be useful to everyone else. in short - I'd like preorder crystals to be reduced to about 100k and/or be available at lvl 10. I would prefer both. I still woudln't use them on every character personaly, I like variety in my lightsabers, but at least they would be a legitimate option then. right now, they are mostly pointless, kinda like vendor speeders.
Agonist Posted March 4, 2013 Author Posted March 4, 2013 I don't know about you all, but if you don't care much about the color - +41 to whatever stat crystals are very cheap. on my server, you can get cartel market crystals for a bit above 100k right now - at least indestructable and war hero ones. IMO, preorder crystals are far too expensive. and while some of you don't like the color, others might not have the same taste as you do. just becasue something is not useful to you personal, doesn't mean it shouldn't be useful to everyone else. in short - I'd like preorder crystals to be reduced to about 100k and/or be available at lvl 10. I would prefer both. I still woudln't use them on every character personaly, I like variety in my lightsabers, but at least they would be a legitimate option then. right now, they are mostly pointless, kinda like vendor speeders. This^
JymmyMorison Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 dont forget that in 2.0 there wont be new higher level crystals wich means youll be still using these and if i recal you trade preorder crystals for 50 ones, but if you are asking why they arent lv10 with 50 stats at preorder vendor that should be obvious i realy see no problem with these crystals
DarthAeonis Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 as i pre-order person i feel u and agree we shouldn't have to pay for it, but then again everything in this game cost creds pretty much so its whatever. and i personally love the black-yellow theme. looks so cool. its true back in the day it was everywhere but its definittely become pretty rare now. but it is cool that its one of the few EXCLUSIVE colors. i mean u could only get it if u pre-oredered meaning this is technically a "founder only" item. i personally wear mine with pride. black-yellow crystal combined with ziost guardian saber = sith thunder god saber lol
Eillack Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 All pre-order, etc vendors should really not be charging that much in the first place...it's almost punishing players for helping the game at launch.
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