Eillack Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) For the amount of flaws this game has suffered (good areas outweigh them though in my opinion) that people tend to complain about...at least Bioware hasn't done anything like this: http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=706971 Even if you are a day 1 player you are now instantly given 1000 day status. Tons of people have been banned on the Star Trek Online forums for obvious reasons. Pretty much Cryptic just sold former (as in this is over) Vetern Rewards to people; in a sense..self-gold-selling. At least TOR doesn't do this...something to think about when one believes this MMO is bad. Edited October 10, 2012 by Eillack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urael Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Yet. >.> <.< -.- ^.^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBandeth Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Uh, you spelled grateful wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eillack Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 Uh, you spelled grateful wrong. Meh I type fast sometimes haha. Thanks for pointing that out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akdonkey Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 The parking is still free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apaolo Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) WZ gameplay has been broken for nearly 2 weeks. I guess the good stuff outweighs the reason I play this game? Edit: Ok you wrote "in my opinion", so my bad there lol. Edited October 10, 2012 by Apaolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaApacHe Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Probably they are planning to close STO within the year...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tolaf Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Yes SW:TOR has a bright and honest future, like those nice gambling boxes they will be puitting all the armor in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchPB Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 How about because its STAR WARS probably the biggest and greatest franchise ever created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eillack Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) Yes SW:TOR has a bright and honest future, like those nice gambling boxes they will be puitting all the armor in! STO has "lock boxes" that give beyond powerful tech and ships. Although I dislike BW using something similar, it's nothing close .WZ gameplay has been broken for nearly 2 weeks. I guess the good stuff outweighs the reason I play this game? Edit: Ok you wrote "in my opinion", so my bad there lol. Well to be honest I am displeased with PvP post 1.4 ..but just look at the big picture is what I'm saying. Edited October 10, 2012 by Eillack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apaolo Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) Well to be honest I am displeased with PvP post 1.4 ..but just look at the big picture is what I'm saying. Yeah I hear ya, not trying to rant in your thread, but understand some peoples "big picture" isn't the same as others. For me, the only picture is PvP, and overall the picture has been underwhelming. It's not just the gameplay feel itself, but the way the PvP team ignores said player base, breaks content with no fixes after 2 weeks (which is literally game-breaking by the very definition), terrible and I mean very terrible development for PvP, an obvious lack of focus and well...overall it's been horrendous for many. Sure, scenery looks nice, voices sound great, but I'd rather own a Honda that runs well as opposed to the new BMW that requires multiple trips to the shop where the mechanics will rip you off to boot. Sorry for the hijack, the big picture just isn't the same for me, but glad it's working for you. Best of luck. Edited October 10, 2012 by Apaolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foobert Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) For the amount of flaws this game has suffered (good areas outweigh them though in my opinion) that people tend to complain about...at least Bioware hasn't done anything like this: http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=706971 Even if you are a day 1 player you are now instantly given 1000 day status. Tons of people have been banned on the Star Trek Online forums for obvious reasons. Pretty much Cryptic just sold former (as in this is over) Vetern Rewards to people; in a sense..self-gold-selling. At least TOR doesn't do this...something to think about when one believes this MMO is bad. I don't see how this is "self-gold-selling". You had to either have been subbed for that many days or had a lifetime sub to get those veteran awards in the first place, so you always paid for them, one way or another. A lifetime sub is essentially a discounted per-month sub, with the discount increasing the more months you played. Compared to a 6 month sub which costs $78/mo, a $300 lifetime sub pays itself off in 23 months. If you bought a lifetime sub after F2P launched (which was around the 700 day veteran mark), you had no access to any vet awards at the time. You would have had to wait 100 days (even if you stopped playing your lifetime sub) to start getting the vet awards. Someone who bought a lifetime sub last year would have to essentially wait another 2 years to get their 1000 day ship - they would never be able to catch up to lifetimers or subbers from the game's original launch, even though people who bought a lifetime sub around launch time have essentially been getting a free game at the "gold" level for close to a year now. Edited October 11, 2012 by Foobert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalacticKegger Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) OP ... for what it's worth I bought the STO lifetime subscription when it was first announced right after open beta. I figured (especially as a long time Star Trek fan) I would have a sci-fi MMORPG I'd never have to worry about being billed for again. Well, my ISP's email system got hacked (sbcglobal.net courtesy of Yahoo) about the same time Cryptic sold out to Perfect World, and my sbcglobal emails no longer work. Can't login to play the game with a Cryptic account anymore - have to migrate the Cryptic account to a Perfect World account. I missed the Cryptic → PW account merger window (my email was dead so I never got the notice) forcing me to log into my account via the launcher and try it manually. But in doing so I had to request a password reset. Problem is any reset password gets sent to the old email for verification. Following their instructions for dead email support, I got nothing. So now I can't even access my account let alone log in to play. I've been beating their CS over the head for three months now (repeatedly providing them with my new email address) without so much as an autoresponse. By comparison to Perfect World, Bioware's CS walks on water. Edited October 11, 2012 by GalacticKegger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goretzu Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 For the amount of flaws this game has suffered (good areas outweigh them though in my opinion) that people tend to complain about...at least Bioware hasn't done anything like this: http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=706971 Even if you are a day 1 player you are now instantly given 1000 day status. Tons of people have been banned on the Star Trek Online forums for obvious reasons. Pretty much Cryptic just sold former (as in this is over) Vetern Rewards to people; in a sense..self-gold-selling. At least TOR doesn't do this...something to think about when one believes this MMO is bad. Yeah that's bad, although Bioware EA made a P2W cashshop pet in Warhammer Online....... so never say never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nureddin Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Well, players spend a lot of time gathering comms to get good equipment, it is just a matter of time that all equipment turns to trash with a new Op, update or cap raise. In the end, there is no point in getting "prestige" items, soon or later the company will make things easier. Some weeks ago a WH weapon was 3600 comms, now it is 2000, next time it will be 1000....in the end it will be given as recruit gear. The important is the content, story and fun. For me SWTOR is boring at lvl 50, the most important aspects of the game are over right now. No more companions action, no real spaceflight, no random adventures, no action for solo/duo players, no feeling that I really own a ship. The 1.4 was just more of the same, comms and comms. Now I heard that there will be more dailies in Belsavis....to get more comms....damn. I want fast action and freedom. I don't want to play 2-3 hours in a Ops group to get a boot and hat that will became trash in the next update. As it seems, STO will have company, soon or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I actually logged out of the game and into the forums so I could write up a complimentary thread. I think Ill use this one to present my kudos. Im a harsh critic of this game, and should be willing to compliment what I feel deserves compliment. First, I would say the death animations are great. Much better than most games I have played, and this is very important to me. Most of the combat sounds are good as well, better before the current patch but hopefully will be restored. Second, the way some of the mobs in the world react to you and your actions is also worth note. I like to see mobs cheering when I take down a group of enemy mobs. It's small things like this that really deserve credit IMO. Third, limited physics in the game. Blowback, destroying objects in the game, some of the best I have seen. Overload changes were a bit silly (the animation especially) but aside from that I think most physics are fantastic. Fourth, I really want to compliment the devs on the inclusion of both moods and companion match/hide headgear. A bit late....should have launched with this, but better late than never. It's a HUGE change IMO. That's it for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbernite Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Yeah, I think the game looks great, especially the toons and NPCs. Aesthetics and the game environment are not everything, but they are important enough to not completely ignore like with some other games. The color matching is a nice feature, leveling toons no longer look like a bowl of fruitloops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I'm really surprised how such a small thing like color matching or moods could really make a difference for me, but it did. Appearance is very high on my list of appeal for a game. It's just my personal slant, but I think they did a great job on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyHope Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 For the amount of flaws this game has suffered (good areas outweigh them though in my opinion) that people tend to complain about...at least Bioware hasn't done anything like this: http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=706971 Even if you are a day 1 player you are now instantly given 1000 day status. Tons of people have been banned on the Star Trek Online forums for obvious reasons. Pretty much Cryptic just sold former (as in this is over) Vetern Rewards to people; in a sense..self-gold-selling. At least TOR doesn't do this...something to think about when one believes this MMO is bad. As someone who came from Perfect World International? I know EXACTLY how you feel. Nobody has the right to complain about BioWare. PWE has probably the worst track record of keeping their playerbases content than any other MMORPG company in history. They choke the life out of every single game they have made thus far, slowly, and painfully. I played PWI since beta. I look back on it now, and I can't help but be pretty depressed about how far down the toilet things are. So until BioWare does something that blatantly looks like this: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=312 No. Not really going to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 As someone who came from Perfect World International? I know EXACTLY how you feel. Nobody has the right to complain about BioWare. PWE has probably the worst track record of keeping their playerbases content than any other MMORPG company in history. They choke the life out of every single game they have made thus far, slowly, and painfully. I played PWI since beta. I look back on it now, and I can't help but be pretty depressed about how far down the toilet things are. So until BioWare does something that blatantly looks like this: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=312 No. Not really going to complain. Well, IMO DE did exactly that to players that were complaining about space combat on rails before launch when he made his "han and chewy didn't mine asteroids" comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudenfusz Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Nobody has the right to complain about BioWare. Just because there is someone worse nobody has the right to complain? That is so stupid, I can't believe how anyone can think that this makes any sense. If humanity would have used that mentality, we would have no progress at all, because he look why should one try to make something better if one could just tell that there is someone else who did it worse already, so no need to improve here. Try to beat those who are better than you, and not who you have already beaten to improve yourself... and BioWare has still plenty room for improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urael Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 ... and BioWare has still plenty room for improvement. This is an understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eillack Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Just because there is someone worse nobody has the right to complain? That is so stupid, I can't believe how anyone can think that this makes any sense. If humanity would have used that mentality, we would have no progress at all, because he look why should one try to make something better if one could just tell that there is someone else who did it worse already, so no need to improve here. Try to beat those who are better than you, and not who you have already beaten to improve yourself... and BioWare has still plenty room for improvement. I am assuming he meant compared to what I'm posting about people almost have no right, but in all honesty I say complain away if one feels unsatisfied. It just has to be a logical/realistic complaint an in a constructive way for the most part. ----------------- Glad to see that there are a bit of varied beliefs on this thread. Edited October 11, 2012 by Eillack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudenfusz Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 It just has to be a logical/realistic complaint an in a constructive way for the most part. The vast majority of players isn't very good in telling you what is wrong, but sometimes it is already good to know that many have an issue with something to look into what might be wrong. So, I think even not well articulated critique is also helpful to understand that there are issues... and sometimes a thread that starts very vague on what a problem might be gets eventually to a point where someone can point his finger on what is wrong. Sometimes talking can help, that is also why I think game developers should talk with the players... much more than BioWare does most of the time (so far it seemed like we got mostly a very active week after the game got a new community manager, but that died soon enough... until we get the next one who promises to talk with us and does that for about a week or two). Even if BioWare things that some problems that are brought up are non-issues, it would be nice to see talking with us more about it. Using the PTS for every single patch, regardless how tiny it is, and answering to our concers there could also help. So in my opinion communication, regardless how useful or useless it might appear, is always better than no comminication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine_Falcon Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 As someone who's had a lifetime subscription to STO since launch I can tell you that you wouldn't believe how badly Cryptic Studios has treated the STO players. Seriously, I'm not even going to go into it because you won't believe me. You wouldn't believe that any company could get away with all of the lies and deceit and pay-to-win items sold in the cash shop that was in the game in addition to requiring a subscription to play. Let's just say that having come to SWTOR from STO, this game feels live heaven by comparison. EA may have been voted 'The Most Hated Company in America', but in comparison to Cryptic/Atari/Perfect World EA seems downright friendly to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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