Morgalica Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Hey there, just to let ya know now, this is NOT a bash EA thread. ( although im sure it might turn into one soon) Look we know you guys love getting paid and love getting paid quickly. But lets look at some facts here, thus far other than your sports games (I don't play em so I can not comment) most of your games are well degrading recently. It seems to me as a consumer // customer that you guys are in the "hurry and rush it who cares if it's done we want it out now!!" frame of mind. This hurts games badly. it makes sure that the QA guys can NOT do their jobs effectively and thus gamers get mad and you guys get a poor rep from it. And you are not alone in these types of actions. Many high end game companies are doing the same. With the recent patch 1.4 this point is driven home a bit to far. So please EA and the CEO's who might (yea right) read this, STOP RUSHING PRODUCT BEFORE IT'S DUE TIME!!! Be the first big game company to stop, and think, Hmm if we rush it we will have to spend months fixing it, or give the consumers a bad product.... How can we fix this prior to getting all that bad rep? Oh I know test it, use the thousands of FREE testers at your fingertips! We are here and we would LOVE to help you guys improve the game!! for FREE even!! I understand you guys don't really care about gamers or your games I get it. BUT if you make good quality games that people love and enjoy, guess what? MORE INCOME!! Yep thats right I know personally i've told buds facebook buds and twitter follower buds to buy some games, and alot of them did, and loved them as well. Now think if 1 person could get lets say 4 more folks to buy said game, and they each got 4 more and so on and so forth... PROFITS OUT THE WAZU! So in short, EA stop and think before you "Push" for a patch to go live.. or "rush" an unfinished game onto the shelves. Yes it will make you some money... but will it keep customers happy enough to come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grombrinda Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Just wondering because I really have no idea,but is it hard to implement a way to log in to a test server and get a premade lvl 50 character, that you then you pick your secondary class and full skill point, in order to test out the content they are making? And i'm really asking because I have no clue if this is possible. I know you can hand out premade gear because you get that lvl 50 pvp starter gear in game already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickShan Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) Trying to talk with EA is like trying to talk to a rock. EA just LOVES to ruin games. I use to play one of the best RTS ever Command and Conquer, hell i practically grew up with it since i started playing it back on 95. And when they bought Westwood, they basically FUBARed the game, and that's one of the reasons will never trust them again. Edited October 7, 2012 by RickShan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplius Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Just wondering because I really have no idea,but is it hard to implement a way to log in to a test server and get a premade lvl 50 character, that you then you pick your secondary class and full skill point, in order to test out the content they are making? And i'm really asking because I have no clue if this is possible. I know you can hand out premade gear because you get that lvl 50 pvp starter gear in game already. the problem is,,they have to teast ALL the content,,for EVERY patch sometimes end game content in another zone can bork up a lowbie quest, sometimes its the other way STO rewards test players with dilithium crystals on the live server devs here could do something similar to encourage testers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgalica Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) the problem is,,they have to teast ALL the content,,for EVERY patch sometimes end game content in another zone can bork up a lowbie quest, sometimes its the other way STO rewards test players with dilithium crystals on the live server devs here could do something similar to encourage testers here's something they can do to encourage testers.... Listen to the reports we make the bugs we find that should be fixed prior to going to live. I was a tester during beta a number of times and have been on the PTR each time I can prior to the nice free names we get. I've submitted many bugs with how to reproduce them (if i was able to myself) and where they can be found what I was doing all that jazz. I'll keep at testing and putting the reports in, not for EA but for my fellow gamers on the live servers. Maybe someday , us testers will be listened to. Edited October 7, 2012 by Morgalica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lklinga Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Trying to talk with EA is like trying to talk to a rock. EA just LOVES to ruin games. I use to play one of the best RTS ever Command and Conquer, hell i practically grew up with it since i started playing it back on 95. And when they bought Westwood, they basically FUBARed the game, and that's one of the reasons will never trust them again. They killed westwood still sad about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgalica Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 Trying to talk with EA is like trying to talk to a rock. EA just LOVES to ruin games. I use to play one of the best RTS ever Command and Conquer, hell i practically grew up with it since i started playing it back on 95. And when they bought Westwood, they basically FUBARed the game, and that's one of the reasons will never trust them again. Tiberian Sun was my last CC game. Loved it and even went so far as to buy renegade..Oh the horror.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grombrinda Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 the problem is,,they have to teast ALL the content,,for EVERY patch sometimes end game content in another zone can bork up a lowbie quest, sometimes its the other way STO rewards test players with dilithium crystals on the live server devs here could do something similar to encourage testers Welp I'd be happy just to get a premade toon to test with,maybe multiple tier type like a lvl 1 ,lvl10,lvl20..etc..just to test and not grind a toon..dunno , but that would get me to download the ..what is it 20 gig test server?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideag Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Well for one their upper management are suits and not Gamers to begin with. If the suits did enjoy playing games like the rest of us maybe their whole outlook would change as well as their quality system of getting games out. Though the real problem is the "Tone From the Top" effect suits have on the developers. I'm sure alot of you have seen this before but here you go. Suits want to please the investors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgalica Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 Well for one their upper management are suits and not Gamers to begin with. If the suits did enjoy playing games like the rest of us maybe their whole outlook would change as well as their quality system of getting games out. Though the real problem is the "Tone From the Top" effect suits have on the developers. I'm sure alot of you have seen this before but here you go. Suits want to please the investors... You know the games that come to mind that were epic or fun or just downright silly fun were ALL made by companies that were founded by gamers for gamers Examples: BioWare BEFORE they sold to EA, Kotor 1 Mass Effect 1 Dragon Age, and Jade Empire. Blizzard before they sold out to who ever bought them, Warcraft Starcraft Diablo 1 and 2. Now granted there are alot more, but I think my point is clear, we need to fire the suits and such and get gamers to make the calls on what goes into games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentinel-Jordal Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Hey there, just to let ya know now, this is NOT a bash EA thread. ( although im sure it might turn into one soon) Look we know you guys love getting paid and love getting paid quickly. But lets look at some facts here, thus far other than your sports games (I don't play em so I can not comment) most of your games are well degrading recently. It seems to me as a consumer // customer that you guys are in the "hurry and rush it who cares if it's done we want it out now!!" frame of mind. This hurts games badly. it makes sure that the QA guys can NOT do their jobs effectively and thus gamers get mad and you guys get a poor rep from it. And you are not alone in these types of actions. Many high end game companies are doing the same. With the recent patch 1.4 this point is driven home a bit to far. So please EA and the CEO's who might (yea right) read this, STOP RUSHING PRODUCT BEFORE IT'S DUE TIME!!! Be the first big game company to stop, and think, Hmm if we rush it we will have to spend months fixing it, or give the consumers a bad product.... How can we fix this prior to getting all that bad rep? Oh I know test it, use the thousands of FREE testers at your fingertips! We are here and we would LOVE to help you guys improve the game!! for FREE even!! I understand you guys don't really care about gamers or your games I get it. BUT if you make good quality games that people love and enjoy, guess what? MORE INCOME!! Yep thats right I know personally i've told buds facebook buds and twitter follower buds to buy some games, and alot of them did, and loved them as well. Now think if 1 person could get lets say 4 more folks to buy said game, and they each got 4 more and so on and so forth... PROFITS OUT THE WAZU! So in short, EA stop and think before you "Push" for a patch to go live.. or "rush" an unfinished game onto the shelves. Yes it will make you some money... but will it keep customers happy enough to come back? I agree 100%! They should have polished SWTOR for another year! SWTOR should have been released december 2012... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deucexmachina Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 p.s. EA, This is not a sports game with reskinned graphics on a "sports field" with cheerleaders, but an MMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplius Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 p.s. EA, This is not a sports game with reskinned graphics on a "sports field" with cheerleaders, but an MMO. some cheerleaders would have helped,,prolly wouldnt have saved it, but it wouldnt have tanked so hard:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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