Jump to content

The Best View in SWTOR contest has returned! ×

Enrage Timer reached on Merc DPS Player

KhalDrogoe

By KhalDrogoe
in PvP

 Share

Recommended Posts

KhalDrogoe

KhalDrogoe

Posted
Posted

Alright, this is starting to get ridiculous. Commando's got their 30% snare nerf removed but Merc Pyro's did not!? Just exactly what is BW trying to do here!? Penalize me for rolling Imperial instead of Republic?

 

http://www.swtor.com/patchnotes

 

Pyrotech (Mercenary)

•Sweltering Heat's snare has been reduced to 30%.

 

And now I want to look at another nerf...

 

•Afterburners: Rocket Punch now immobilizes the target for 4 seconds instead of knocking it back.

 

NOW you're rooted! Oh wait.. so am I... I wish I could've knocked you back.... How many seconds does it take to go 4 meters away snared/rooted? If it's a physical or tech snare/root I will be able to move... but 90% of republicans aren't using tech/physical snares/roots.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
MyDarkSunshine

MyDarkSunshine

Posted
Posted
Vanguard

 

Tactics

Pulse Generator: Each stack now causes 20% additional damage. This can stack up to 3 times.

Shock Absorbers now additionally reduces damage taken from area effects by 15% per point. Damage reduction while stunned has been increased to 15% per point.

 

Assault Specialist (Vanguard)

Sweltering Heat's snare has been reduced to 30%.

Incendiary Round's range has been reduced to 10 meters.

Assault Plastique's range has been reduced to 10 meters.

 

Assault Specialist (Commando)

Sweltering Heat's snare has been reduced to 30%.

 

Emphasis my own. Looks like they simply put the notes about Assault Specialist (Commando) in the wrong place, under the Vanguard stuff for some reason. You're not being penalized for going Imperial.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
heechJunzi

heechJunzi

Posted
Posted

Oops! Bummer.

 

I bet the patch notes are just wrong. There's no way in the world SWTOR would intentionally break the mirror classes. Either commando is still getting the sweltering heat nerf, *or* merc is not. For my sake, I hope we both don't get the nerf. :(

 

As far as the knock-back issue.. hasn't this been discussed a billion times? The purpose is to make it MORE useful, not less. Now, you're not filling up an opponents resolve, especially important if you want to use the other cc in your arsenal. (And considering stockstrike is on a 9s cd... in an extended fight, you'd fill up his resolve meter in no time without this change.)

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Graziell

Graziell

Posted
Posted

l2r issue

Assault Specialist (Commando)

 

Sweltering Heat's snare has been reduced to 30%.

[/Quote]

 

vs

 

Pyrotech (Mercenary)

 

Sweltering Heat's snare has been reduced to 30%.

 

[/Quote]

 

 

also l2p issue, root does not affect resolve and you already have a kb on a 30s cd

/thread

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Wainamoinen

Wainamoinen

Posted
Posted

I'd imagine that Sweltering Heat difference is an error in the patch notes. But Bioware do need to clear it up.

 

Given it's a talent in the advanced-class shared Pyrotech/Assault Specialist tree, I'd guess that it's reduced to 30% never mind your advanced class.

 

Mercs/Commandos now get a 70% snare on Unload/Full auto though, will help a little when holding off melee or slowing ball carrier.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Jherad

Jherad

Posted
Posted (edited)
also l2p issue, root does not affect resolve and you already have a kb on a 30s cd

/thread

 

In what crazy fantasy land is a short duration melee root helpful to commandos when you're also rooted/snared?

 

Please elaborate.

Edited by Jherad
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Spoletta

Spoletta

Posted
Posted

Root is immensely more useful than a knockback and it does not fill resolve so yeah it's a BIG buff.

 

1) Allows you to stop the ball carrier in hutball and to root him into a trap. Sure knockback is useful too, but you get a tool much more better for that in concussion charge.

 

2) Say hi to that marauder that you had problems before! Now you can kite him till tomorrow (yes you can cleanse the marauder snare) with your own snares (even if nerfed) and keeping him rooted for 4/9 secs.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
BlaadG

BlaadG

Posted
Posted
Alright, this is starting to get ridiculous. Commando's got their 30% snare nerf removed but Merc Pyro's did not!? Just exactly what is BW trying to do here!? Penalize me for rolling Imperial instead of Republic?

 

http://www.swtor.com/patchnotes

 

Pyrotech (Mercenary)

•Sweltering Heat's snare has been reduced to 30%.

 

And now I want to look at another nerf...

 

•Afterburners: Rocket Punch now immobilizes the target for 4 seconds instead of knocking it back.

 

NOW you're rooted! Oh wait.. so am I... I wish I could've knocked you back.... How many seconds does it take to go 4 meters away snared/rooted? If it's a physical or tech snare/root I will be able to move... but 90% of republicans aren't using tech/physical snares/roots.

 

quoted for rage

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Jherad

Jherad

Posted
Posted (edited)
Root is immensely more useful than a knockback and it does not fill resolve so yeah it's a BIG buff.

 

1) Allows you to stop the ball carrier in hutball and to root him into a trap. Sure knockback is useful too, but you get a tool much more better for that in concussion charge.

 

2) Say hi to that marauder that you had problems before! Now you can kite him till tomorrow (yes you can cleanse the marauder snare) with your own snares (even if nerfed) and keeping him rooted for 4/9 secs.

 

Hah, any marauder that is going to be easier to kill with a 2-4 second melee range root is one that I wiped the floor with already. I'm a full WH setup commando in a PvP only guild with valor rank 100. I know how to PvP.

 

Seriously, a melee range root more useful than a knockback for a range class? Pull the other one, it has bells on.

 

What we WILL be seeing more of is ravages. Lots and lots of tasty ravages in the face (or in the back when we're 'kiting' whilst snared), with one of our tools for interrupting them now gone.

 

Not that people will notice. The good marauders/juggs/ops/sins will kill us even easier, the bad ones will still die, commandos will still be junk in RWZ.

Edited by Jherad
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Spoletta

Spoletta

Posted
Posted

What we WILL be seeing more of is ravages. Lots and lots of tasty ravages in the face (or in the back when we're 'kiting' whilst snared), with one of our tools for interrupting them now gone.

.

 

Sorry but if you eat a ravager cause of a marauder snare then you don't know how to pvp.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
heechJunzi

heechJunzi

Posted
Posted
As a combat sent I'll take the change from knockback to root any day of the week. The other guy was right. Commando's and mercs just lost a valuable interupt.

You do understand we didn't lose *the* knockback? Just the one associated to stockstrike?

 

As a fellow combat sent (and a commando), I don't think this was a valuable interrupt on master strike at all.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Slicktime

Slicktime

Posted
Posted
You do understand we didn't lose *the* knockback? Just the one associated to stockstrike?

 

As a fellow combat sent (and a commando), I don't think this was a valuable interrupt on master strike at all.

 

taking away the kb from stockstrike just allows the melee classes more power over us. the game is already WAY to melee friendly. but its ok bw its not like u are trying to keep people subscribed right?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Wainamoinen

Wainamoinen

Posted
Posted (edited)

As a fellow combat sent (and a commando), I don't think this was a valuable interrupt on master strike at all.

 

Stockstrike/Rocket Punch could break master strike. Now it can't. That's a loss. I'll miss the knockback on my merc for sure, particularly in huttball. Root and run doesn't feel like it'll help a turret. Not a huge deal, but I think the class deserved a bit more pity.

Edited by Wainamoinen
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Technohic

Technohic

Posted
Posted
If you want to troll try harder.

What i mean is that marauder may as well not have a snare against commando/scoundrel. So if you stay there and eat it and you are not rooted/snared by a third party then sorry you fail at your class.

 

Are you saying Cure works on marauders root or snare?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
kcol

kcol

Posted
Posted
If you want to troll try harder.

What i mean is that marauder may as well not have a snare against commando/scoundrel. So if you stay there and eat it and you are not rooted/snared by a third party then sorry you fail at your class.

 

Bwahahahaha.....you sir take the cake, and need a lesson in class mechanics. As a combat Sent, I'm looking forward to only one knockback from a merc/commando as MS roots it's victim. So the problem is.......wait for it...............2 roots don't make a right :)

 

bottom line is, with 2 roots and on demand slow plus force stasis, the Merc/Commando with his 1 KB and a useless root is going to have to out DPS the mara/sent.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Technohic

Technohic

Posted
Posted
SetDescription: Description=>"Movement speed reduced."

 

SetDuration: MaxDuration=>12000, Duration=>12000, Toughness=>1

 

SetName: Name=>"Slowed (Physical)"

 

http://www.torhead.com/ability/7xsmRBZ/field-aid

 

Here is your answer.

 

So it is a physical snare.

 

I'm still leveling my Merc, but I will have to try it. Can't think off the top of my head how much the GCD comes into play, and the punch animation.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
 Share
Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...