Ensquire Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) No that info i am going from is the horses mouth, http://investor.ea.com/ which is information dated back to feb not may here is the actual horses mouth your looking for for the number 1.3 million http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ERTS/1994006269x0x566942/0a817daf-08b4-4e2d-bc35-c00d03059369/FINAL_Earnings_Release_withPressTables_1204pm_PDF.pdf fifth bullet down what i'm saying for that 1.3 million number was released that number was inflated because of the one month free they gave out prior to the shareholder meeting for the forth quarter Edited July 28, 2012 by Ensquire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kourage Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I give up. Forbes says the game sucks so I guess I better quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 No, I'm just saying you can't defend SwTor without crying about Blizzard. Literally, you lack the ability to do that. Every post about subs, "blizzard does this in asia, blizzard counts gold farmers!" "Blizzard really only has 4.3 million subs, the rest are fake prepaid bots". Which is all well, but never changes the fact that Swtor will be lucky to even have a million this tuesday. Ow i see, you allowed to talk about bliz but im not and when people talk about bliz you can chip in on it but im not. Alright? So the Asian market doesn't pay as much. They still pay, tho. Am I right? Therefore they are still counted as a source of income. Blizzard may state all of that, but there has to be a reason right? If it's pure loss in revenue they wouldn't be operating in that market anymore. Saying that something is more likely to do something than something else is just conjecture. I can give you a web address for a Canadian ran gold farming site. Do you want it? I bet you weren't thinking Canadians are more likely to do anything. Saying something is more likely doesn't prove anything and it also doesn't speak for that entire population. I can point you in the direction of a Korean guild that got world-first heroic spine, but they were probably just taking a break from their gold farming operations right? Ye ok, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Corew Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I give up. Forbes says the game sucks so I guess I better quit. You mean "Blogger posting on Forbes site says the game sucks so I guess I better quit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Latency Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) Has it even been reported to how much actual profits Blizzard makes from Asia or WoW alone? I am curious for some reason I don't think it's as much as many claims. nope, But I'm sure they make an insane amount of coin. All they have to do is make a new cute non combat pet or mount skin and sell it for 10-20 bucks every time they want cash. Edited July 28, 2012 by Lt_Latency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonSM Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) 350 million spent on a game... the only they'll make money is if another company buys the engine... Edited July 28, 2012 by BrandonSM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taorus Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 You mean "Blogger posting on Forbes site says the game sucks so I guess I better quit." Finally the cloud is being lifted....THIS ISN'T FORBES...ITS JUST ANOTHER RANDOM BLOGGER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensquire Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) 350 million spent on a game... the only they'll make money is if another company buys the engine... 500 million because of marketing Finally the cloud is being lifted....THIS ISN'T FORBES...ITS JUST ANOTHER RANDOM BLOGGER And nothing in that article made ANY sense Edited July 28, 2012 by Ensquire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonSM Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Have they made up there investment? Forbes seems to think the game cost 500 million with marketing BW released it spent 350 million for the game engine and graphics. Marketing might have added allot more.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensquire Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) You mean "Blogger posting on Forbes site says the game sucks so I guess I better quit." The blogger never stated if the game sucked, he stated the game isn't doing well financially. If it goes Free to Play are you going to stay? Edited July 28, 2012 by Ensquire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taorus Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 500 million because of marketing And nothing in that article made ANY sense Nope...Its his opinion. But you keep trying to perp that it was written by someone from Forbes...Not just a random Blogger....No one has ever heard of before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Corew Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 So if it goes Free to Play are you going to stay? Nope, but we're not there yet, if ever.. when I no longer get any joy from playing I'm gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensquire Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) Nope...Its his opinion. But you keep trying to perp that it was written by someone from Forbes...Not just a random Blogger....No one has ever heard of before. lol... sticking your head in the sand and saying the sky isn't falling when their laying people off doesn't mean the sky isn't going to fall Edited July 28, 2012 by Ensquire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipero Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Nope...Its his opinion. But you keep trying to perp that it was written by someone from Forbes...Not just a random Blogger....No one has ever heard of before. Ok well, let's see you go make an account and become a contributor to Forbes. When you have an article posted there within the next day or so, I will admit that it could indeed be any random blogger that can write things posted on their site. If not, then I guess it may take a little more than being some 'random blogger' to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) which is information dated back to feb not may here is the actual horses mouth your looking for for the number 1.3 million http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ERTS/1994006269x0x566942/0a817daf-08b4-4e2d-bc35-c00d03059369/FINAL_Earnings_Release_withPressTables_1204pm_PDF.pdf fifth bullet down what i'm saying for that 1.3 million number was released that number was inflated because of the one month free they gave out prior to the shareholder meeting for the forth quarter So you can prove that a % of those people that got a free month would have stopped there subscription without a free month ? Edited July 28, 2012 by Shingara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 The blogger never stated if the game sucked, he stated the game isn't doing well financially. If it goes Free to Play are you going to stay? except he as just a blogger doesn't know how it's doing. He can speculate which of course what he is doing. Now like I said earlier First rule of Fiance Never ever read any money magazine, website, or tv show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) lol... sticking your head in the sand and saying the sky isn't falling when their laying people off doesn't mean the sky isn't going to fall Blizzard layed off 500 people in Febuary around 100 of them where from Diablo 3. Universal is trying to sell Blizzard I guess Diablo 3 and WoW are failing Edited July 28, 2012 by jarjarloves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensquire Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) So you can prove that of those people that got a free month would have stopped there subscription without a free month ? Lets see... Massive layoff at Bio-ware supports that... yes Closing a 100 servers down and introducing Server Mergers Supports that... Yes Executive Producer Leaves BioWare during Layoffs... Yes Free to Play is being considered for ToR by Electronic Arts so that supports a drop in player base... Yes Seeing my server Evaporate of a player community with my own eyes supports that... Yes Edited July 28, 2012 by Ensquire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kourage Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Ok well, let's see you go make an account and become a contributor to Forbes. When you have an article posted there within the next day or so, I will admit that it could indeed be any random blogger that can write things posted on their site. If not, then I guess it may take a little more than being some 'random blogger' to do so. "I'm new to this business, and I think I'm a part of the first generation of journalists to skip print media entirely. " In other words, a nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Lets see... Massive layoff at Bio-ware supports that... yes Closing a 100 servers down and introducing Server Mergers Supports that... Yes Free to Play is being considered for ToR by Electronic Arts so that supports a drop in player base... Yes Seeing my server Evaporate of a player community with my own eyes supports that... Yes anecdotal evidence is anecdotal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) Lets see... Massive layoff at Bio-ware supports that... yes Closing a 100 servers down and introducing Server Mergers Supports that... Yes Free to Play is being considered for ToR by Electronic Arts so that supports a drop in player base... Yes Seeing my server Evaporate of a player community with my own eyes supports that... Yes People being layed off and there contract ending states that it doesnt need as many people to manage a game as it does to create one from scratch. Closing servers just states that they had to many and the increase in server caps allows for less servers which are easier to manage. Free to play is the trial to lvl 15 just the same as other games have free trials to set levels. seeing my server grow and become very busy and vibrant infront of my eyes says otherwise. Edited July 28, 2012 by Shingara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensquire Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share Posted July 28, 2012 anecdotal evidence is anecdotal And pretending evidence doesn't exist is any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taorus Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 lol... sticking your head in the sand and saying the sky isn't falling when their laying people off doesn't mean the sky isn't going to fall You mean the people that they(EA) said they were going to release back in May? Still doesn't change the fact that YOU are making a poor attempt to portray a Blogger as a rep for Forbes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensquire Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share Posted July 28, 2012 People being layed off and there contract ending states that it doesnt need as many people to manage a game as it does to create one from scratch. Closing servers just states that they had to many and the increase in server caps allows for less servers which are easier to manage. Free to play is the trial to lvl 15 just the same as other games have free trials to set levels. seeing my server grow and become very vusy and vibrant infront of my eyes says otherwise. lol... saying a populated server grow is like saying you have getting rain water in the ocean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 lol... saying a populated server grow is like saying you have getting rain water in the ocean im lost, are you somehow saying it doesnt rain at sea or something now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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