Pathlight- Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 I recently read that the tank set is not very useful in pvp because it's damage mitigation is mainly geared toward white damage. As a kinetic shadow, I'm trying to be as hard to kill as possible. Should I therefore mix the 2 sets or will I still get better survivability with full tank gear ?
Mutley-Gin Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Full tank sheild and all...maybe some blackhole/campaign peices to really accent high defense and absob- but i would keep my exp higher then 1140. Full Shadow tanks are a pain to face...so many goodies in there bags to keep you off there healers.
Pathlight- Posted July 27, 2012 Author Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) Full tank sheild and all...maybe some blackhole/campaign peices to really accent high defense and absob- but i would keep my exp higher then 1140. Full Shadow tanks are a pain to face...so many goodies in there bags to keep you off there healers. That's what I thought at first but many players say that the tank set focuses too much on shield chance which is only marginally useful in pvp (as about 75% of the damage is yellow, not white). Therefore this would mean sacrificing a lot of damage potential for only marginal protection. That's why I'm looking for insights from experienced pvp kinetic shadows so I don't grind the wrong set. Edited July 27, 2012 by Pathlight-
stephenalandavie Posted July 30, 2012 Posted July 30, 2012 That's what I thought at first but many players say that the tank set focuses too much on shield chance which is only marginally useful in pvp (as about 75% of the damage is yellow, not white). Therefore this would mean sacrificing a lot of damage potential for only marginal protection. That's why I'm looking for insights from experienced pvp kinetic shadows so I don't grind the wrong set. I wouldnt bother with the Shield. The survivor or Stalker set take your pick
Zyuuu Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 I have fully customized dps gear, but sometimes I like to throw 2-5 tank pieces on for certain situations. I use WH gloves/legs, 2 bm def relics & bm shield. It gives me the edge to be a good ball carrier, defend and distract ppl well. So, basically with all those pieces I have 23.43% def chance 28.73% shield 36.06% absorb --unbuffed--valor&rakata resolve stim 1062 melee dmg 477 melee bonus 718 force dmg Enough dps to kill most ppl and enough mitigation/def to make 3-5 ppl take some time to kill me, plus maybe 1 kill under my belt. Imo, it's the def chance that is the game changer as it affects all classes. That's better than 0% w/o shield. I noticed many ppl after an encounter would simply avoid me afterwards. I'm going to get a full tank set, but tbh I think part-tanking it is prob better, since you have to stack so much def stats to get the huge stats. I inspect tons of shadow and the pure tanks will have killer absorb/shield, but as the other said, classes play a big part of it being efficient. So, you have to look at it like this-how much dps do I want to give up for extra survivability. Of course, since I'm a power junkie and when the class composition doesn't help the benefits of shield...I go all power and rage kill \m/_
Skolops Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 Theegood KC Shadows who want to go full tank gear for PvP swap out the mods to get them the high endurance versions - this, I think, is a must and can get you to 26k HP, which is really pretty insane. They also get rid of most of their shield/absorb stats and replace them with defense rating until they are at around 29 - 30% defense chance, filling the rest in with shield/absorb.
stephenalandavie Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 Theegood KC Shadows who want to go full tank gear for PvP swap out the mods to get them the high endurance versions - this, I think, is a must and can get you to 26k HP, which is really pretty insane. They also get rid of most of their shield/absorb stats and replace them with defense rating until they are at around 29 - 30% defense chance, filling the rest in with shield/absorb. Your saying rip out the mods and enhancements of the stalker gear and stick them in the survivor slots?
Zyuuu Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 I made a mistake, w/no shield I still have 16% def chance, so shield makes a significant change. I think the other poster is saying that mods in the same set have higher end and to stack those. It sounds like mods w/def have higher end.
stephenalandavie Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 I made a mistake, w/no shield I still have 16% def chance, so shield makes a significant change. I think the other poster is saying that mods in the same set have higher end and to stack those. It sounds like mods w/def have higher end. Yes but that would greatly decrease your DPS right? if that is the case why not just go survivor? high in endurance and defence stats.
Zyuuu Posted August 7, 2012 Posted August 7, 2012 I am going to get a full tank set, like I said in my 1st reply, but it affects force dmg more than melee and I rely on melee more. When I wear just shield, relic and leggings I still have 1103 melee dmg 761 force. That's a lot more than survivor. 1vs1 I usually don't have any problems against a shadow pure tank, which is a class a shield makes a difference.
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