Talon_strikes Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) I just wanted to state I really like the game (the thread title is very misleading)! I want to change the thread title but it's not going through. The game has its pros and cons, and I do enjoy the game a lot but it's just that I believe that the game failed to captivate me musically. The topic of this thread is about the music of SWTOR. /answertothreadtitlecompleted One thing that highly disappoints me is the game's music! Many of the music tracks of Star Wars are just plain epic. They just make the saga not only more interesting to watch, but more interesting to listen to. You can hear awesome climatic moments, beautiful and emotional parts, soothing and calm tracks, or just the compositions that make you feel like you're in front of a cantina listening to their catchy music that you just wanna dance to. I feel like SWTOR's music just completely missed out on creating the music I wanted to hear. I would think this would just create more great music to add to the saga, but listening to the many pieces I feel like SWTOR did miss out musically. In my honest opinion, a lot of these composers didn't fully grasp the concept of the music of Star Wars, and completely failed to compose what the music should sound like. Many of the pieces are filled with silent parts, and even though there are a few parts that do get you going, most of the tracks are filled with parts that just aren't captivating as it should be. I really haven't seen any threads about the music, but I wanna hear what everyone thinks about it, and how it impacts their experience in-game—because I should know, music does play a major role in not only the games, but the shows, movies, and saga in general. Edited May 11, 2012 by HomicidalWhales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezzi Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Agreed. Too much of the music in this game is incidental--as opposed to ambient (like the music in KOTOR). I remember when they posted this great write-up in one of the developer blogs about the music and sound in SWTOR; they made it out to be one of the most important features of the game. How does such an important feature fail to make an impression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfeisberg Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 There's music in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) The thread says it all, folks... But one thing that highly disappoints me is the game's music! Many of the music tracks of Star Wars are just plain epic. They just make the saga not only more interesting to watch, but more interesting to listen to. You can hear awesome climatic moments, beautiful and emotional parts, soothing and calm tracks, or just the compositions that make you feel like you're in front of a cantina listening to their catchy music that you just wanna dance to. I feel like SWTOR's music just completely missed out on creating the music I wanted to hear. I would think this would just create more great music to add to the saga, but listening to the many pieces I feel like SWTOR did miss out musically. In my honest opinion, a lot of these composers didn't fully grasp the concept of the music of Star Wars, and completely failed to compose what the music should sound like. Many of the pieces are filled with silent parts, and even though there are a few parts that do get you going, most of the tracks are filled with parts that just aren't captivating as it should be. I really haven't seen any threads about the music, but I wanna hear what everyone thinks about it, and how it impacts their experience in-game—because I should know, music does play a major role in not only the games, but the shows, movies, and saga in general. I understand that this is highly subjective and thus I respect your opinion, but... The music work in this game is incredibly brilliant, and I am quite savvy when it comes to music, from Harsh Noise to Wagner... Matter of fact, before giving up and starting graduating as an economist, I was a poor struggling piano artist Edited May 11, 2012 by Socialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheroras Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 while there is music in the game, there isn't enough variety. one of the first things i turned way down in Options, to be honest. Listening to a bit of 'Daydream Nation' while grinding Nar Shaddaa for the umpteenth time suits me in a way the game soundtrack never could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charben Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 While I agree that the music does not play often enough, I disagree with the OP about the quality of the new music composed for the game. A great deal of it sounds very Williams-esque and "Star Wars-y". There's a great deal of the original Saga music used in the class missions and many of the door missions, Flashpoints etc. I would like to see/hear more ambient music playing. Perhaps a travel music sequence while riding the flightpoint speeders or some ambient music while walking around the Fleet. I'd also like to hear the Williams music in the space battle missions, mixed in with the new stuff. Hearing the Asteroid Field or the classic TIE Fighter Attack while dogfighting would be wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon_strikes Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 I understand that this is highly subjective and thus I respect your opinion, but... The music work in this game is incredibly brilliant, and I am quite savvy when it comes to music, from Harsh Noise to Wagner... Matter of fact, before giving up and starting graduating as an economist, I was a poor struggling piano artist You do bring up a good point: this topic is highly subjective. I'm just curious as to what others think of the game's music. I do respect everyone else's opinion, and I understand what may not appeal to one person may appeal to the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razot Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Music has been off since early access... Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambeta Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) A lot of the music in game (during cutscenes) is actually from the prequel series. A lot of themes are edited slightly and blended with others. Equally a lot of the music is rehased from KOTOR I & II. There are a few new pieces in this game, but all the music I've heard so far is from the movies or previous games. The music that is new though is actually good, it just doesn't fit the settings and themes sometimes. As a standalone it's got some brilliant themes that would better suit a movie. Edited May 11, 2012 by sambeta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denpic Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I don't Remember If it was voss or Quesh but the ambient Music had me pumped while I was hacking and slashing My way across the Map Also some of the class quests have awesome music when i was running through An imperial Star destroyer made Me Feel like there was a Real need to accomplish my mission with speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Moonshadow Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Williams is too expensive now these days. Guy does music for Episode I, he's now "too good" to compose for Bioware. Well jokes on you, John Williams! We can get someone better! Two Steps From Hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenzali Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) The music is good. The real issue is that you barely get to hear it because it doesn't loop. You arrive on a planet, the awesome music plays for 2 minutes, and then you spend the next hour or two in silence listening to your own footsteps. Edited May 11, 2012 by Jenzali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon_strikes Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 The music is good. The real issue is that you barely get to hear it because it doesn't loop. You arrive on a planet, the awesome music plays for 2 minutes, and then you spend the next hour or two in silence listening to your own footsteps. I am pretty disappointed that the game does feel quite silent. But it's not only the silence that bothers me, and again, I just feel disappointed with the music in general. I just wish something more captivating was composed. And I did see someone post that a lot of the songs were taken from Episode I. I know because I was ripping the music onto my Xbox and I saw the music titles of the Episode 1 OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discosoc Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 The only time I notice the music is when I use a Heroic Moment. So yeah, the music feels like Star Wars to me about every 20 minutes, at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zannis Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I understand that this is highly subjective and thus I respect your opinion, but... The music work in this game is incredibly brilliant, and I am quite savvy when it comes to music, from Harsh Noise to Wagner... Matter of fact, before giving up and starting graduating as an economist, I was a poor struggling piano artist We're not talking about the John Williams montage we hear when we pop our heroic moment ability or pull the occasional Elite. We're talking about the large swaths of silence between the occasional ambient tone. That's not music. That would be...large swaths of silence between the occasional ambient tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherworlder Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) In complete agreement here. Williams provided hours of awe inspiring tunes for this movie series, yet we only hear snippets of it once in a great while, and usually only the same few prequel tunes over and over. Where are the OT tracks? I can vaguely remember hearing a few clips of the OT "hero" theme during a heroic moment or two, or the great Mos Eisley track when you first load into Anchorhead, but overall it's just the new trilogy stuff or dead silence (far more of the latter). When I leap into combat swinging a lightsaber or firing my wrist rockets, it'd be nice to hear that swelling Star Wars theme surge up to get the adrenaline pumping. Almost never does. Who the hell overlooked using the ESB Asteroid Field theme during the space missions that involve... asteroid fields?? Edited May 11, 2012 by otherworlder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelFlow Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) I think that the music is great - when it's on, which is hardly ever. Bioware should go through each level and create far more music trigger points and a loop button that loops through the thematic music for each zone with an option for the 'dramatic/fight scene' music to play. It's a little bit boring hearing double footsteps tapping along as the soundtrack to this game, often when I suspect that there's loads of good music sitting on our hard drives that doesn't get played enough... Edited May 11, 2012 by FeelFlow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokkus Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) Yeah the music could have been worked out better and more present but I like the KOTOR music references Its not nearly as bad as you thread title though... EDIT: I agree completely with the post above. Edited May 11, 2012 by Gokkus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambeta Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I am pretty disappointed that the game does feel quite silent. But it's not only the silence that bothers me, and again, I just feel disappointed with the music in general. I just wish something more captivating was composed. And I did see someone post that a lot of the songs were taken from Episode I. I know because I was ripping the music onto my Xbox and I saw the music titles of the Episode 1 OST. Not just episode I. There are themes from the other two of the prequel trilogy, such as: Jango's Escape (EP II -activated when you use a heroic moment) Bounty Hunters persuit (EP II - Space sequence) an edited rendition of Zam the assassin (the chase EP II) From EP III you have Battle of Heroes, Anakin's Betrayal, Anakin's Dark Deeds, The Immolation Scene and finally an edited segment from Ep I Anakin Defeats Sebulba. These are just the tracks I picked up on during playtime. In addition with all the new music there are some fantastic pieces of work in there. Just many of them seem not to fit the scenes that play out in the game. Not to mention the lack of ongoing music or looped music in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon_strikes Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 Yeah the music could have been worked out better and more present but I like the KOTOR music references Its not nearly as bad as you thread title though... EDIT: I agree completely with the post above. Yeah, I wanna change the thread title because that is not the message I wanted to deliver for those scrolling through the GD. I like the game. It has its pros and cons, but it's the music that does disappoint me a lot. :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunarson Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 The music is good. The real issue is that you barely get to hear it because it doesn't loop. You arrive on a planet, the awesome music plays for 2 minutes, and then you spend the next hour or two in silence listening to your own footsteps. I think that's part of the problem yes. It's just a detail but what I find a shame is that I hardly ever hear the famous 'Cantina band' tune. I heard it a few times on the fleet when soneone got their robot out and it played for 30 seconds or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labyrinth Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 You know, I've been trying to find it but I think Music is precisely the reason why SWTOR failed to draw me in like LoTRO did - which is another MMO based on an very established mythos. Shadows of Angmar music was excellent - it was one of the things that made the Shire so good. I'd go there just to hang out and do nothing but admire the atmosphere and music. I've always appreciated good music. People look at me weird when I say Music is at or near the top things I consider in games. I want to hear the music of SWTOR, but it doesn't loop so I barely remember any of it aside from the Cantina music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grezgorz Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) The sound problems in this game are a black eye to the Lucas Arts brand. It's heartbreaking. :-( Edited May 11, 2012 by grezgorz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon_strikes Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 You know, I've been trying to find it but I think Music is precisely the reason why SWTOR failed to draw me in like LoTRO did - which is another MMO based on an very established mythos. Shadows of Angmar music was excellent - it was one of the things that made the Shire so good. I'd go there just to hang out and do nothing but admire the atmosphere and music. I've always appreciated good music. People look at me weird when I say Music is at or near the top things I consider in games. I want to hear the music of SWTOR, but it doesn't loop so I barely remember any of it aside from the Cantina music. I'm glad to see you've said that. Music definitely takes the cake as one of the most important things of a game. Makes you appreciate the game (or any movie or show you watch) a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon_strikes Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 Still looking for more responses. Will be reading some on The Star Wars Underworld podcast, so if you have any responses for anyone or to the OP in general, please do post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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