kurzis Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Now one thing i love about star wars is no matter how crazy the technology it can be explained in schematics and descriptions that doesn't completely defy logic can someone explain how black/*something* lightsaber crystals work? the black implies light is being absorbed by something and the color is being emitted but how?? i've looked through all my starwars technology handbooks and this phenomena can't be explained. I hope the devs or someone can explain why i have a little light absorbing black hole generator in my lightsaber and if i do, *** is powering it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordresh Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 There's no real logic to it. Personally I hate them as well, I think they look awful. Like a big rubber stick with some color around it. I was glad when I got to replace them with the new war hero one for a more simple but awesome red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blistrich Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Lightsabers are not actually made of light. They are plasma, therefore technically solid. Black core is therefore not that strange. What makes no sense is why lightsabers don't cast shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungan Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) Multi-colored sabers use two crystals with different foci in the books. Apparently BioWare missed that. Edited May 10, 2012 by Gungan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurzis Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 There's no real logic to it. Personally I hate them as well, I think they look awful. Like a big rubber stick with some color around it. I was glad when I got to replace them with the new war hero one for a more simple but awesome red. I've looked through all the lore i can and nothing explains it, the closest thing to it is the dark saber but that doesn't stretch the realms of reality as much as say a black/green lightsaber. is this just a bioware gimmick with no thought of lore or have they thought this through? i'd of thought LA would of asked them to come up with some sort of realistic explanation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurzis Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Multi-colored sabers use two crystals with different foci in the books. Apparently BioWare missed that. awesome thanks. just good to know they do already exist in lore, even if they have been implemented slightly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terifh Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) So you think that the flawed logic of lightsabers is the color? Instead of how the **** someone is able to make a beam of light travel 1 meter and then simply stop in the air? Light does not work like that. Therefore the only reasonable answer is: Plasmasabers, but the name lightsaber is already iconic. Edited May 10, 2012 by Terifh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_Fantasy Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) So you think that the flawed logic of lightsabers is the color? Instead of how the **** someone is able to make a beam of light travel 1 meter and then simply stop in the air? Light does not work like that. Therefore the only reasonable answer is: Plamasabers, but the name lightsaber is already iconic. QFT Lightsabers are about as realistic and doable as FTL travel... ... Oh wait.... Edited May 10, 2012 by Final_Fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blistrich Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 If you try to apply logic to a universe that features what Star Wars features, we might as well debate the illogicality of walking trees in the Lord of the Rings, or the ridiculousness of Night Elves in Warcraft, or why the scene in Scanners where the guy's head explodes couldn't possibly happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanikk Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) QFT Lightsabers are about as realistic and doable as FTL travel... ... Oh wait.... Are you implying FTL travel is possible? Sorry but that is impossible with our current understanding of physics. Simply not possible no matter what. Ask any scientist on the planet. It will never happen. Edited May 10, 2012 by Xanikk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexx_T Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Now one thing i love about star wars is no matter how crazy the technology it can be explained in schematics and descriptions that doesn't completely defy logic can someone explain how black/*something* lightsaber crystals work? the black implies light is being absorbed by something and the color is being emitted but how?? i've looked through all my starwars technology handbooks and this phenomena can't be explained. I hope the devs or someone can explain why i have a little light absorbing black hole generator in my lightsaber and if i do, *** is powering it? Star Wars and logic? Really? SW was never about logic or science. SW is and always was space fantasy fiction. Key word here is fantasy. For logic and science you have to look at Babylon 5 and Star Trek. They have some flaws and inconsistencies, but overall are the most logical sci-fi universes to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terifh Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) Are you implying FTL travel is possible? Sorry but that is impossible with our current understanding of physics. Simply not possible no matter what. Ask any scientist on the planet. It will never happen. FTL travel per say is impossible. But getting from point A to point B before a beam of light does is actually quite possible through wormholes. Edited May 10, 2012 by Terifh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanikk Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 FTL travel per say is impossible. But getting from point A to point B before a beam of light does is actually quite possible through wormholes. No thats wrong. We just have to face the sad truth that no matter how advanced technology gets we will never be able to colonize the stars at any speed faster than light. Even if we did colonize a planet in another star system we wouldn't be able to keep in touch because communications would take years to reach them and double that to get a response. It's unfortunate but that's the way the universe works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetOldBob Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 FWIW, according to Wookiepedia, the lightsaber is "a blade of pure plasma." Plasma is high-energy ionized gas; I'm guessing it would emit light. Maybe the dark core of the black lightsaber just doesn't emit as much light as the thin outer layer, so it would appear dark, maybe even black? For example, sunspots emit a terrific amount of light; they just look dark compared to the stuff around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terifh Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 No thats wrong. We just have to face the sad truth that no matter how advanced technology gets we will never be able to colonize the stars at any speed faster than light. Even if we did colonize a planet in another star system we wouldn't be able to keep in touch because communications would take years to reach them and double that to get a response. It's unfortunate but that's the way the universe works. You're basically saying that Einstein is wrong. His formulas and equations prove that wormholes can exist. I'm not getting into specifics here and trying to understand how communications or colonizations would work. I'm saying that getting from point A to point B before light is not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blistrich Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 No thats wrong. We just have to face the sad truth that no matter how advanced technology gets we will never be able to colonize the stars at any speed faster than light. Even if we did colonize a planet in another star system we wouldn't be able to keep in touch because communications would take years to reach them and double that to get a response. It's unfortunate but that's the way the universe works. There's actually a really good Isaac Asimov short story about that... Apparently we launch a space ship that will take generations and generations to reach the nearest solar system, so the ship is built to sustain life for centuries. Unfortunately, over time, the crew and passengers forget where they are and what they're doing, and a strange society evolves where people who break the rules are sent "into the darkness" (blown out into space). I wish I could remember what it was called... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knorlac Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 No thats wrong. We just have to face the sad truth that no matter how advanced technology gets we will never be able to colonize the stars at any speed faster than light. Even if we did colonize a planet in another star system we wouldn't be able to keep in touch because communications would take years to reach them and double that to get a response. It's unfortunate but that's the way the universe works. Like he said, you may not be able to reach a higher velocity than light, but you can get from point A to point B faster than light via a wormhole. You would still be slower than light while traveling through it, but the folding of space would enable you to get to point B faster than light nevertheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkhosis Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Haven't you guys watched Star Wars tech on the History channel? They explain them quite thoroughly. In the end said would be a physical impossibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAmedeo Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 There is a new theory called the "Holographic Universe". In essence, all our percieved notions, our calculations, tests, etc are a just a view governed by rules. But these are all limited to a small portion of what is REAL. If we are ever able to access the "projector" of the hologram in some way, then ALL THINGS WOULD BE POSSIBLE. This would be the power of GOD, so maybe it would be a good thing if this never happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psi_overtake Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 There is a new theory called the "Holographic Universe". In essence, all our percieved notions, our calculations, tests, etc are a just a view governed by rules. But these are all limited to a small portion of what is REAL. If we are ever able to access the "projector" of the hologram in some way, then ALL THINGS WOULD BE POSSIBLE. This would be the power of GOD, so maybe it would be a good thing if this never happens. I raise an eyebrow to anything self-proclaimed as a theory, first off. Second off, the argument is ridiculous and reminds me Occam's razor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerandar Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) Your asking for logic from a game that has "Hyperspace" travel, talking cat men, evil angry red people, and walking talking carpets. just saying Oh and midget blue elephants that love food. also lizard men. Star wars is one messed up place Edited May 10, 2012 by Gerandar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudenfusz Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Lightsabers in itself are unrealistic, still people just complain about the black ones (ignoring that silver ones are as stupid as black ones, but nobody ever complains about the silver lightsabers). Star Wars don'T has to care about real world physics, it has sound in space, hyperspace travel, even the force. It is more fantasy than science fiction, so don't think about the stuff you see, just enjoy how it looks (and the black lightsabers look awesome!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakkip Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Oh and midget blue elephants that love food. I want to play one of those dudes.... and be an evil dark sith lord.... I could be called... Ele-Vader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kourage Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 The blade color was black, which is unique in itself. However—more peculiarly—the core of the blade was black, while the outer edges glowed white. Originally intended to be a vibroblade, George Lucas decided that, to preserve the uniqueness of the Jedi weapon, a lightsaber should not be seen to be blocked by sword-like weapon that is not a lightsaber. With that in mind, Lucas and the show's crew conceived of an ancient precursor to the lightsaber which they named the darksaber http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darksaber_%28lightsaber%29 It was supposed to be a vibroblade. Lucas decided to make it a"darksaber" instead. It was unique, but now we have thousands of black lightsabers. They don't look or sound like the darksaber, but that has to be where they decided they could make them from. So you see, there is no sense to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zmidponk Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Now one thing i love about star wars is no matter how crazy the technology it can be explained in schematics and descriptions that doesn't completely defy logic can someone explain how black/*something* lightsaber crystals work? the black implies light is being absorbed by something and the color is being emitted but how?? Actually, that's not quite correct. Normally, the colour of something is caused by light reflecting off of it from an external source, with what wavelengths are reflected v what wavelengths are absorbed determining what that colour is, with it being the case that something is black if it absorbs all the visible light. However, with something like a lightsaber blade, the object itself would be a light source, not merely something that reflects light. As such, if, for example, the core of the blade only emitted a wavelength beyond the visible spectrum, it would appear black. The idea of visible light being emitted from around the core could be explained that there is a partial refraction effect from the containment field around the plasma in the saber that shifts the wavelength of some of the light emitted into a visible range, thus giving the curious effect of light being emitted from a black object, and also explains the 'coloured nimbus around a black core' effect of the lightsaber itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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