Odahviin Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Exactly. They can't even tell the difference between the 2, yet call them selves "good pvpers". I don't even know why I still read these forums. The good part is you know these QQ' ers are easy kills in WZ's The bad part is you know these same people rush on here and create 10 plus QQ threads about class imbalance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidMcClaren Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Can you even tell the difference between a Sentinel/Maurader and a Jugernaut/Guardian? Half of your Screen Shots are of Juggs/guardians... Know how i know? They have protection... Fail. ROFL this, those are Rage/Focus juggs and guardians dude. Top ranked pvper on my server is a focus Guardian, his highest crit to date in pvp is 8147. Posting pics of the wrong AC and calling for nerfs on Sents/Maras....PRICELESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkrbk Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) Agreed, but can ANY OTHER CLASS, who has "2-3 pocket healers putting up over 400k healing" put up those same exact damage numbers? Yes. If I had two pocket healers topping off my Madness Assassin, I would wreck face. Sentinels/Marauders wouldn't be able to keep up. Look, guys, it's simple. Mara/Sents aren't OP because of the amount of damage they do. They are a pure DPS class. They SHOULD wreak havoc. The problem is their SURVIVABILITY while doing a ton of DPS. They can just stack a ton of DoT's on people, and when their health gets to 40-50% they can just stealth for a few seconds, heal + medpack, come back, keep DPSing, then when their health gets low again, pop their I WIN shield. Not to mention their 3 other defensives. It's simply too much. Again, it's not their DPS that's outrageous. It's the fact that they can DPS so much, and still have such insane survivability. People think Assassins are OP? Oh please. Even Assassins only have two real defensive cooldowns. Nothing compared to what mara/sents have in their arsenal. Edited May 10, 2012 by rbkrbk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flem Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I think you didn't get the sarcasm. http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5762/screenshot2012042720121.jpg Here you have nearly 1.1 mio heal from a sorc heal, post 1.2. So dps and heal sorcs can pull those numbers. Nerf 'em...TO THE GROOOOOOUND.And wait, are those two troopers with 600k+ and 700k+ damage in the same wz!? Nerf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iphobia Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) And wait, are those two troopers with 600k+ and 700k+ damage in the same wz!? Nerf! Ah, I didn't even notice that, thanks, I think I'm going to make a "Nerf those op troopers"-thread! Damn those forums are some serious fun. Edited May 10, 2012 by iphobia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EugeneYap Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Ah, I didn't even notice that, thanks, I think I'm going to make a "Nerf those op troopers"-thread! Plz do that will keep the Whining QQ'er busy protecting they OP class which is a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croza Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 These screenshots are from two servers only. Note the screenshots of clusters of Marauder/Sentinels in the top 5 damange overall. Also note the massive gap between the #1 damage dealt and the remainder. These are also mostly post-1.2 only to account for recent nerfs/buffs. Just wanna point out, first: from your posts, we cannot distinguish between sentinels and guardians.. well, most sentinels can do 40K -80K healing in each match (watchmen spec. and I said most, not all). From your post, some of the top DMG came from guardian.. So it do not mean that sentinels are OP..... Second, these DMG pictures cannot show anything.. They maybe playing against a bad team, or they have 1-2 healers healing them all the time.. So... This post is not evidence.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zataos Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) This thread is a BS lie, right off the bat the 1st "evidence" that you give of Maras being OP is of 2 Vengeance speced Juggs seen here..... http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9...2031020313.jpg, Maliken and Malrak are both Juggs, arguably the 2 best players on the server and both always have pocket healers. Edited May 10, 2012 by Zataos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshallin Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 These screenshots are from two servers only. Note the screenshots of clusters of Marauder/Sentinels in the top 5 damange overall. Also note the massive gap between the #1 damage dealt and the remainder. These are also mostly post-1.2 only to account for recent nerfs/buffs. http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9869/screenshot2012031020313.jpg http://i.imgur.com/IbHMc.jpg http://imageshack.us/f/694/screenshot2012032623450.jpg/ http://i.imgur.com/U32nb.jpg http://i.imgur.com/CRaas.jpg http://imageshack.us/f/694/screenshot2012032623450.jpg http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/2664/recordxh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VRMdr.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VRMdr.jpg http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/screenshot2012032513571.jpg/ STOP TROLLING ... sentinels are just fine. Just because at you Wz is geared and skilled sentinels it isNOT mean that sentinels or marauder are OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellinchaos Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) These screenshots are from two servers only. Note the screenshots of clusters of Marauder/Sentinels in the top 5 damange overall. Also note the massive gap between the #1 damage dealt and the remainder. These are also mostly post-1.2 only to account for recent nerfs/buffs. http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9869/screenshot2012031020313.jpg http://i.imgur.com/IbHMc.jpg http://imageshack.us/f/694/screenshot2012032623450.jpg/ http://i.imgur.com/U32nb.jpg http://i.imgur.com/CRaas.jpg http://imageshack.us/f/694/screenshot2012032623450.jpg http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/2664/recordxh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VRMdr.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VRMdr.jpg http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/screenshot2012032513571.jpg/ You used 2 of my screenshots. I'm Malrak, http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9869/screenshot2012031020313.jpg http://i.imgur.com/CRaas.jpg Maliken is also a juggernaut: http://imageshack.us/f/694/screenshot2012032623450.jpg/ Both of those are me, and I'm a juggernaut. I will agree with you that marauders are overpowered. But they are not overpowered as far as damage goes. Highest damage output in the game belongs to a pyrotech. Marauders have too much survivability. Namely, cloak of pain needs to be either reduced damage reduction or not refresh to 30 seconds, or not be on a 1 minute cooldown. In a dps race, a vengeance juggernaut will always beat a marauder, its just a marauder will survive longer. Edited May 12, 2012 by Hellinchaos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xarimath Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) -.- LOOK the heals and look the report between kills and dps done. And have you heard about focus spec and AoE damage? If you hit 5 target with an AoE that do 3k to each target at the end will be count like 15k damage, because you've done 3k to each target. And all these screenshots are from VOIDSTAR that is known which is the camper map for excellence. A good sentinel specced focus spams AoE on multitarget and could do a lot of damage at the end of the game. But when i see the heal done, compared to dps done, for me it's really normal. Please stop whining about this class and LEARN TO PLAY. Edited May 12, 2012 by Xarimath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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