Ignicity Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) Seems every week we have this same issue pop up. Weekly scheduled maintenance occurs. They implement a new patch. That patch breaks something. We get a second maintenance period for the week. Week after week after week. To top it all off, for both scheduled and unscheduled maintenance, they take the servers down during peak oceanic play times. Now before everyone attempts to school me in the fact that this is an american game, which I clearly already know, lets have a think about the root issue here. Why aren't they testing these patches before implementing them? One maintenance period per week should be more than enough. Edited May 10, 2012 by Ignicity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eszi Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I like my matrix cube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignicity Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 I like my matrix cube I like my Campaign Relic's more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakhesis Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I like my matrix cube O-M-G!!! A very limited number of items for one gear slot risk being broken for 4 more days! Quick men! (and women)! Haul down the servers, this glaring game-breaking flaw shall not stand! /sarcasm Seriously Bioware. How about a bit of perspective on what's a major fault & what isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConradLionhart Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 O-M-G!!! A very limited number of items for one gear slot risk being broken for 4 more days! Quick men! (and women)! Haul down the servers, this glaring game-breaking flaw shall not stand! /sarcasm Seriously Bioware. How about a bit of perspective on what's a major fault & what isn't? To put things into perspective, WoW had 8 hours of maintenance last Tuesday. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4877377912 SW:TOR only had less than 4. With today's maintenance, it will still be less than WoW's maintenance for this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignicity Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 To put things into perspective, WoW had 8 hours of maintenance last Tuesday. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4877377912 SW:TOR only had less than 4. With today's maintenance, it will still be less than WoW's maintenance for this week. Personally, I'd prefer they take the servers down for 8 hours at a time once a week, if it is going to eliminate the problem. Sadly, I doubt it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eszi Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Personally, I'd prefer they take the servers down for 8 hours at a time once a week, if it is going to eliminate the problem. Sadly, I doubt it will. Ok, but during US prime time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignicity Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Hey kids they are not fixing the matrix shard problem it's just regular maintenance schedule to keep things in good perspective. Game works as intended thank you very much now go outside when the patch is underway since it's nice and sunny and it's good for you.... Wrong. On so many levels. Tonight's maintenance is not the regular weekly scheduled maintenance. Also: It's raining here. And it's night time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eszi Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Hey kids they are not fixing the matrix shard problem it's just regular maintenance schedule to keep things in good perspective. Game works as intended thank you very much now go outside when the patch is underway since it's nice and sunny and it's good for you.... Regular maintnance was last tuesday. And no Mr. Mature, I'm not crawling out of my basement. I heard that it's dangerous outside (people, dragons, mad unicorns and all that stuff) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyropete Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Ok, but during US prime time Nah thanks.. When your country makes a game then they can set the downtime, but for now I like my downtime being in your prime time. Nice try though. Go stare in awe at the Coriolis effect, assuming you're an Aussie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eszi Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Nah thanks.. When your country makes a game then they can set the downtime, but for now I like my downtime being in your prime time. Nice try though. Go stare in awe at the Coriolis effect, assuming you're an Aussie. Nice try, americano. But no, I'm not an aussie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varteras Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Regular maintnance was last tuesday. And no Mr. Mature, I'm not crawling out of my basement. I heard that it's dangerous outside (people, dragons, mad unicorns and all that stuff) Wait wait wait... unicorns?! /runs outside All I see is this big dra---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakhesis Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) To put things into perspective, WoW had 8 hours of maintenance last Tuesday. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4877377912 SW:TOR only had less than 4. With today's maintenance, it will still be less than WoW's maintenance for this week. One long maintenance wipes out one night's gaming entirely & unquestionably, whereas a short maintenance does potentially give you enough time to run a few dailies & send out some crew missions. It's not a full night's gaming, but you do get to "check base" with the game so-to-speak. However two short maintenances mostly wipe out two nights gaming, versus one long maintenance completely wiping out one night's. IMO, and I think most would probably agree: Two nights largely unplayable is worse than one night totally unplayable. If our theory that it's to fix a non-gamebreaking flaw (matrix cubes - seriously, use another relic for 4 more days), then that really calls Bioware's sense of proportion into question. Which was already highly questionable in the first place given precisely how many "gamebreaking" maintenance-requiring flaws they manage to find (I suspect it'd be one every 2-4 weeks, yeah?). There's an adage in management that it's not about the perfect solution, it's about a good enough solution in an appropriate timeframe. If you accept that precept, Bioware has very poor management skills. Edit: And if it genuinely is to fix something that's going to suddenly make the servers explode in thunder, lightning, and a spray of gerbil body-parts, then Bioware could avoid generating (as much) negative community feeling by actually saying what it is & explaining why it's worthy of an emergency maintenance. They're making a rod for their own backs here. Edited May 10, 2012 by Lakhesis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignicity Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Well said, Lakhesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConradLionhart Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 One long maintenance wipes out one night's gaming entirely & unquestionably, whereas a short maintenance does potentially give you enough time to run a few dailies & send out some crew missions. It's not a full night's gaming, but you do get to "check base" with the game so-to-speak. However two short maintenances mostly wipe out two nights gaming, versus one long maintenance completely wiping out one night's. IMO, and I think most would probably agree: Two nights largely unplayable is worse than one night totally unplayable. If our theory that it's to fix a non-gamebreaking flaw (matrix cubes - seriously, use another relic for 4 more days), then that really calls Bioware's sense of proportion into question. Which was already highly questionable in the first place given precisely how many "gamebreaking" maintenance-requiring flaws they manage to find (I suspect it'd be one every 2-4 weeks, yeah?). There's an adage in management that it's not about the perfect solution, it's about a good enough solution in an appropriate timeframe. If you accept that precept, Bioware has very poor management skills. Edit: And if it genuinely is to fix something that's going to suddenly make the servers explode in thunder, lightning, and a spray of gerbil body-parts, then Bioware could avoid generating (as much) negative community feeling by actually saying what it is & explaining why it's worthy of an emergency maintenance. They're making a rod for their own backs here. Playing in the GMT+8 timezone, I actually prefer shorter maintenances. It does not "mostly wipe out" gaming time. I can start playing at 7pm my time, assuming it does take that long. WoW's maintenance is much later and completely eliminates 1 day of gaming. It's from 6pm my time till 2am. SW:TOR's maintenace is only from 3pm to 7pm on 1 day, 2 days is an exception. And SW:TOR's maintenance times rarely even meet 4 hours. It tends to finish in 2-3 hours time ahead of schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyropete Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Nice try, americano. But no, I'm not an aussie. Then I feel sorry for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignicity Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Playing in the GMT+8 timezone, I actually prefer shorter maintenances. It does not "mostly wipe out" gaming time. I can start playing at 7pm my time, assuming it does take that long. WoW's maintenance is much later and completely eliminates 1 day of gaming. It's from 6pm my time till 2am. SW:TOR's maintenace is only from 3pm to 7pm on 1 day, 2 days is an exception. And SW:TOR's maintenance times rarely even meet 4 hours. It tends to finish in 2-3 hours time ahead of schedule. Trying playing in the GMT+10 or +12. You'd lose 2 nights to this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akella Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Apparently Matrix Cubes are game breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unruhe Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 They need to fix the things they broke this week, so they can break new things (and then later fix them) next week. Otherwise the amount of broken stuff will be so backed up it will be a feat to even log into the game. Or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDiggler Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 they need to take the servers done and keep them down until they add merges or transfers. I could care less about peoples matrix cubes wahhhhhhhhhhh How about all the people who can't even play cuz they are the only one on there server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakhesis Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) Playing in the GMT+8 timezone, I actually prefer shorter maintenances. It does not "mostly wipe out" gaming time. I can start playing at 7pm my time, assuming it does take that long. WoW's maintenance is much later and completely eliminates 1 day of gaming. It's from 6pm my time till 2am. SW:TOR's maintenace is only from 3pm to 7pm on 1 day, 2 days is an exception. And SW:TOR's maintenance times rarely even meet 4 hours. It tends to finish in 2-3 hours time ahead of schedule. Hopefully you'd acknowledge that is a selfish convenience though? I don't mean that as a negative comment on yourself, but hopefully you would agree that significant portions of your swtor community are being messed around & in an MMO when the people you play with get discouraged it has a negative impact on your in-game opportunities too. Case in point, the US/EU dead server issues. When Bioware forces people to find something to do other than play SWTOR, they're actively encouraging them to stop playing SWTOR at all. As it happens, tonight's maintenance makes no direct difference to me either because I'm going to the theatre anyway. My concerns are related to Bioware's ongoing management approach & its effect on server communities. So the more significant part of the problem for me is that two maintenances a week should require servers-will-explode justification. It should be an exceptional occurrence in the once-a-year range. It should absolutely not be a monthly event. If it is the company needs to seriously look to either improve their code, improve their management, or both. I don't think they'll be able to make a quantum-leap in their coding reliability, so that leaves better management of scheduling, customer communications & fault prioritisation. Edited May 10, 2012 by Lakhesis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancen Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 O-M-G!!! A very limited number of items for one gear slot risk being broken for 4 more days! Quick men! (and women)! Haul down the servers, this glaring game-breaking flaw shall not stand! /sarcasm Seriously Bioware. How about a bit of perspective on what's a major fault & what isn't? Also other quest items got bugged... the cubes are important for some players, too. Four hours won't hurt anything, trust me. You're gonna make it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignicity Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Also other quest items got bugged... the cubes are important for some players, too. Four hours won't hurt anything, trust me. You're gonna make it! It's already hurting my playtime tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funktion Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 not sure what prime time is, 3-8pm?, they must think that everyone playing this game is a student or has a 8-5 job and no family. Most nights I can't play till 1030 or 11 and then maint is an hour later.... kinda pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightfalll Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 BIO IS BECOMING THE THREE STOOGES OF MMO DEV COMPANIES..............They are borderline comics...... I mean after awhile, this is just getting hilarious. How bad is it that they keep breaking their own game? How utterly embarrassing.................. How embarrassing and sad Bio has become...........And no, they will never discuss this topic with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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