Houzuki Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 This is my second movie of me playing some PvP with my Jedi Sage in Star Wars: The Old Republic. This time I've included clips of me playing as both healer and dps. When I play as a healer I use a heal/dps hybrid build (21/2/18) and as dps I'm playing with a full balance build (3/7/31). All the clips are recorded after the 1.2 patch. The clips are recorded with Dxtory and the video is edited in Adobe Premiere. Don't forget to like and subscribe on Youtube if you like it! Link to the movie: Also heres a link to my first movie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KantaUO Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Demonstrated some skill - I personally did not enjoy the editing of blacking the screen out and coming back in seemed like every 20 seconds, i'll assume you were fastforwarding through non important stuff, but it was just too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabredance Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I personally did not enjoy the editing of blacking the screen out and coming back in seemed like every 20 seconds, i'll assume you were fastforwarding through non important stuff, but it was just too often. I also didn´t enjoy that and stopped watching. A pity - probably some good gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigabolt Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 honestly i tried to watch but the blacking out felt sort of like being forced to blink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cempa Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I ask that game designers look at this video, the guy plays a heal/DPS hybrid and right now this build is the best hands down if you play group -structured- PvP in terms of value to your team. I ask that game designers recognize that the pure DPS falls far behind in terms of group PvP value...FAR BEHIND. Other players should -I hope- recognize that Sorcerers are best played like this guy plays with his spec. 31 builds gimp your team in structured PvP as compared to this build. BW you gave me some free days, thanks. After those free days are over unless I can play DPS Sorcerer and feel heroic by adding value to my team, its GW2 all the way and no more SWTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EsteRJ Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Nice vid. Glad to see some skilled sorc/sage action. I actually never tried that hybrid spec but it looks quite awesome. You seem to be force starved a lot though. Anyway, awesome vid and I actually like your editing! Oh and: Can I has ur hardwareZ plx? Your awesome looking and still smoothly running game makes me a sad panda :< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaar Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Demonstrated some skill - I personally did not enjoy the editing of blacking the screen out and coming back in seemed like every 20 seconds, i'll assume you were fastforwarding through non important stuff, but it was just too often. I felt the same way, in fact it got so annoying I just turned the video off. It seemed like it was every 5 seconds and for no reason, there must be a reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fdzzaigl Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Like the other people, I stopped watching because of the blacking out. It feels like your video wants to convince me to close my eyes every 5 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetNausea Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 +1 for a Prog guild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houzuki Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Demonstrated some skill - I personally did not enjoy the editing of blacking the screen out and coming back in seemed like every 20 seconds, i'll assume you were fastforwarding through non important stuff, but it was just too often. It is as you assume, I try to remove unimportant stuff that's goin on. It's also to sync some of the clips to the music. Some people like it, some don't. I maybe overdid it though since there apparantly are people here that get annoyed by it. This is something I gonna have in mind when I make my next video. Want to say thx for the feedback since all feedback are welcome so I know what's good and what's bad =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houzuki Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Nice vid. Glad to see some skilled sorc/sage action. I actually never tried that hybrid spec but it looks quite awesome. You seem to be force starved a lot though. Anyway, awesome vid and I actually like your editing! Oh and: Can I has ur hardwareZ plx? Your awesome looking and still smoothly running game makes me a sad panda :< Want to start to say glad that you enjoyed the vid! =) The spec is rly awesome and I like it alot. But you are correct though. The downside is that it consumes alot of force if you heal and dps alot. You have to manage your force more than pure heal oc dps specced. But if played right it's rly effective! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houzuki Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 I ask that game designers look at this video, the guy plays a heal/DPS hybrid and right now this build is the best hands down if you play group -structured- PvP in terms of value to your team. I ask that game designers recognize that the pure DPS falls far behind in terms of group PvP value...FAR BEHIND. Other players should -I hope- recognize that Sorcerers are best played like this guy plays with his spec. 31 builds gimp your team in structured PvP as compared to this build. BW you gave me some free days, thanks. After those free days are over unless I can play DPS Sorcerer and feel heroic by adding value to my team, its GW2 all the way and no more SWTOR. You may be right. It is a rly effective spec that can support with healing, dps and cc when needed. Ofcourse you lose some healing and dps compared to full heal or dps specced players, but on the other hand you can support with whats needed for the situation. Even if it's a rly good support spec it is still way harder to actually play than a full specced healer or dps. And lastly, wouldn't say that full balance dps spec is bad at all. Still think they are one of the strongest dps in the game if played right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanchito Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 cool vid :-) Would you mind posting your spec? I tried a lot of seer balance hybrids but couldn't quite get them to work. I ended up with a seer / tele hybrid that makes force management a lot easier, big downside is spamming a not very useful disturbance a lot and no second stun... Thanks http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#600GGMRMd0zZfzbMdRMZ0M.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eventidephoenix Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) I dont really like the heal/balance hybrid imo, you lose salvation which i have personally benefitted from and got irritated with in many battles... But then again it's your playstyle I like the DPS build in huttball, but otherwise I felt that force management was an issue and so was survivability when playing with pubs... Just my 2 cents I'm not discouraging anyone from playing these styles... In fact I am encouraging sages not to be discouraged by the nerf and to keep on going on... I don't see many dps sages on my server anymore... Edited May 10, 2012 by eventidephoenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houzuki Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 cool vid :-) Would you mind posting your spec? I tried a lot of seer balance hybrids but couldn't quite get them to work. I ended up with a seer / tele hybrid that makes force management a lot easier, big downside is spamming a not very useful disturbance a lot and no second stun... Thanks http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#600GGMRMd0zZfzbMdRMZ0M.1 I've actually tried a similar spec. Didn't like it att all. Spamming disturbance is just so ineffective. And I just love to have force in balance. Great for interrupts and an instant aoe nuke is pretty good most of the times ^^ This is the hybrid spec I use: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#600GhrRMd0zZbZcMcRsMz.1 The key is to use telekenetic throw with psychic barrier to regen force. So instead of doing nothing you keep doing dps. And instant force lift is just great to have as a healer. Instant mind crush with presence of mind is also good when your trying to nuke someone. And ye, it's a great spec for 1v1 and even 1v2 if you don't go out of force that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vales Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 I ask that game designers look at this video, the guy plays a heal/DPS hybrid and right now this build is the best hands down if you play group -structured- PvP in terms of value to your team. I ask that game designers recognize that the pure DPS falls far behind in terms of group PvP value...FAR BEHIND. Other players should -I hope- recognize that Sorcerers are best played like this guy plays with his spec. 31 builds gimp your team in structured PvP as compared to this build. BW you gave me some free days, thanks. After those free days are over unless I can play DPS Sorcerer and feel heroic by adding value to my team, its GW2 all the way and no more SWTOR. Actually his build has several downsides even compared to 31 TK and 31 Balance: No Force Wake Root -> tremendous help especially in coordinated PvP No Psychich Projection -> a lot less burst compared to Hybrid/TK builds No Sever Force or Kinetic Collapse -> Less CC compared to 31 TK/Balance No TK Effusion -> Significantly less efficient compared to TK/Hybrid Cannot comment on Seer because I do not play Sage as healer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houzuki Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 I dont really like the heal/balance hybrid imo, you lose salvation which i have personally benefitted from and got irritated with in many battles... But then again it's your playstyle I like the DPS build in huttball, but otherwise I felt that force management was an issue and so was survivability when playing with pubs... Just my 2 cents I'm not discouraging anyone from playing these styles... In fact I am encouraging sages not to be discouraged by the nerf and to keep on going on... I don't see many dps sages on my server anymore... I never liked salvation in pvp. Just thinks it's a clutchy spell in pvp. And what you can get by dropping it kinda outweights what it gives imo. But as you said, it's just a matter of playstyle. Totally agree with you there. Kinda like the fact that you can play around with specs that suits your playstyle instead of using cookie cutter specs that is "proven" to be the "best" spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houzuki Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 Actually his build has several downsides even compared to 31 TK and 31 Balance: No Force Wake Root -> tremendous help especially in coordinated PvP No Psychich Projection -> a lot less burst compared to Hybrid/TK builds No Sever Force or Kinetic Collapse -> Less CC compared to 31 TK/Balance No TK Effusion -> Significantly less efficient compared to TK/Hybrid Cannot comment on Seer because I do not play Sage as healer. Your kinda missing the point that the spec is used for healing. It gets all the needed healing talents and then some dps talents including force in balance (interrupt caps + good damage) and psychic barrier (telekenetic throw to regen force). I also get instant force lift for more cc. But as I said, it is a healing spec, not a dps spec. Therefore comparing it to full tele or balance is completely wrong. You should instead compare it to full seer or seer/tele hybrid spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vales Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) Your kinda missing the point that the spec is used for healing. It gets all the needed healing talents and then some dps talents including force in balance (interrupt caps + good damage) and psychic barrier (telekenetic throw to regen force). I also get instant force lift for more cc. But as I said, it is a healing spec, not a dps spec. Therefore comparing it to full tele or balance is completely wrong. You should instead compare it to full seer or seer/tele hybrid spec. My point was actually that it is hard to say that your healer hybrid build is better than the other builds in organized group PvP, simply because they offer for example additional CC/burst/pressure DPS which can be just equally good. Ot of course also depends on your team composition. Maybe your build is perfect for your setup, but other setups might fare better with a full Seer or full Balance or TK/Balance Hybrid. P.S: I play 31 TK. Yes yes I know it's gimp etc. I have fun with it and thats all that counts. Edited May 10, 2012 by Vales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houzuki Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 P.S: I play 31 TK. Yes yes I know it's gimp etc. I have fun with it and thats all that counts. That's all that matters in the end. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesaff Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Sorry bro nothing impressive at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigalo Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Nice video, always brings some extra joy to see all the familiar names (like my brothers (names in red )) I agree with some of the above, waaaay to much fade to black, all else superb, liked the touch with the art. But the worst part, is that I get "rock throw envy" every time i see a sage/shadow video, I prefer that over lightning and I pray for the day when legacy let you choose if you want rocks or lightning for your attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houzuki Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 Nice video, always brings some extra joy to see all the familiar names (like my brothers (names in red )) I agree with some of the above, waaaay to much fade to black, all else superb, liked the touch with the art. But the worst part, is that I get "rock throw envy" every time i see a sage/shadow video, I prefer that over lightning and I pray for the day when legacy let you choose if you want rocks or lightning for your attacks. TY for the feedback =) And about the rock throw animation. Don't think u want that cause the rep rock throw animation got a delay until it hits its target. The imp version is completely instant. Kinda unfair but don't think they have fixed that yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laforet Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) nice show houzie, have you ever tried the 20/20/0 spec (heal / tk hybrid)? if yes, what do you think of it in comparision with 20/0/20 (heal / balance)? Edited May 12, 2012 by Laforet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houzuki Posted May 12, 2012 Author Share Posted May 12, 2012 nice show houzie, have you ever tried the 20/20/0 spec (heal / tk hybrid)? if yes, what do you think of it in comparision with 20/0/20 (heal / balance)? Yes I've tried seer/tele hybrid. Don't like it at all tbh. Spamming disturbance is so bad imo. I would say seer/tele is more of a healer/survival build than heal/dps. More defensive talents and some force management talents. And I just love force in balance. It's great for interrupts and good damage even for a single target. So if you like to play offensive I would say that seer/balance is way better. But thats just my opinion and playstyle. Just try both tbh and find out what you prefer the most ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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