Libensborn Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Ok, its obvious that the hype surrounding 1.3 was mostly due to the hope to see implemented RWZ, 8 man queue and server merges. Well it seems none of these are going to be on 1.3, and I fear that not implementing RWZ or merging servers will be the final blow on this game unfortunately. Am I misinformed or is this true? As seen at: http://torboard.com/content.php?136-Patch-1-3-Details-group-finder-augment-table-legacy-perks Edited May 9, 2012 by Libensborn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JsunJay Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Based off what has been said so far you are not miss informed I don't think. They haven't told us "everything" yet though so who knows. As far as RWZ are concerned the only thing I have seen is soon SOON. IMHO mergers need to happen before RWZ. I would prefer server mergers over cross server pvp myself but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lugosi Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Where are people getting all this info about 1.3? Am I missing something? I've heard: -no pvp stuff -augment existing gear -mauraders getting nerfed Did the tinfoil hat wearing theorycrafters get lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Libensborn Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 I mean, they left out the most important thing of this game: population and pvp. If this is confirmed I can say that 98% of my guild will unsub. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrico Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 They can't possible put in ranked wzs until they have cross server quing working. Even on the fatman you would only have ~10 teams of 8 per faction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancrizans Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 What I don't understand is, with all the stuff that no one really wants or has asked for that they are adding and have added, why can't they at least let us queue 8 man groups? Even making it so we can queue with 4 without having to uncheck the stupid requeue box and auto queue as a group would be a start...I mean that is just broken. To even LAUNCH with such a bug is ridiculous to begin with. Several people in my guild quit because they are tired of us not being able to PvP together. It isn't so much the ranking system they are interested in, THEY JUST WANT US TO BE ABLE TO PvP AS A GUILD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahhmyface Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I'm usually laughing at the doomsayers on this forum, but server merges honestly do need to make it to 1.3. Not for my sake, my server is fine, but the for the sake of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhaim Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Just listen to the offical podcast (its not good), they imply that ranked etc will be here b4 1.3 hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raansu Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Just listen to the offical podcast (its not good), they imply that ranked etc will be here b4 1.3 hits. Pretty much this. Ya for the most part the podcast sucked, but if people actually listened to it they state that RWZ are coming before 1.3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMunny Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Well, obviously they feel the have the fan support to bypass mergers/transfers for another patch or it would be in... Hmm, GW2 is looking better each and every time one of the devs speak, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belialle Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Meh. I am happy to wait for rated WZs, anyhow. It gives me more time to level my merc healer alt. It also makes sense for them to do the server transfers before implementing cross-server WZs (if that is what they are going to do). Frankly, I'd really much rather see them take care of server transfers first.....and then later bring the rated WZs out for us. I don't want to see rated WZs rushed out too early just because a bunch of forum *****s can't stop their inane crying about it. I mean, seriously. It seems to me that the forum community isn't ever happy with anything, so there's no sense in trying to cater to them. They will just ***** about it when it comes out, anyhow. Then they'll all make posts like, "Well, I tryed 2 giv u a chanse, BW lol. But u messd up lol. Now I gonna go play taht oether gaem so I can btitch at tohse devs to lol" Server populations are a much more pressing matter. I'd rather see them being treated as the top priority, anyhow. **** rateds. Edited May 9, 2012 by belialle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlord- Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) I give up, Bioware cannot develop competently. They put PvP Traffic generation such as Operations and Flash points and put them on the fleet so non opposing factions can interact with it. This is the cause of huge pvp traffic on other MMO's in specific areas.They keep saying they will be bringing out PvP Ranked warzones on x patch that is around subscription renewal times and then not have it in the patch.They have totally removed PvP Open world Ilum the planets still there sure but no incentives No quests etc etc its officially dead.They are listening to the Casual Player base a little to much and is causing problems with how we obtain Gear especially for PvP, Cent/Champ was essentially removed/replaced because of "Recruit gear" Which is obtainable by buying it. Which pissed off alot of people who had to earn that gear.The list can go on and on I have just unsubed. - they have 99 Days left on my subscription time because i bought 6month at launch to sort their **** out. Edited May 9, 2012 by Overlord- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlord- Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Ranked warzones better come out in 1.3 like they said they would. PvE to PvP Content Ratio: 90% PvE to 10% PvP - They need a balanced ratio to make this game work. At least a 60/40, They cannot keep ignoring the PvP side of this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMunny Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Ranked warzones better come out in 1.3 like they said they would. PvE to PvP Content Ratio: 90% PvE to 10% PvP - They need a balanced ratio to make this game work. At least a 60/40, They cannot keep ignoring the PvP side of this game. Ok, so they release RWZ's, then what, you wait in 8hr ques until the one other team arrives?? MOST SERVERS ARE NEAR, or ON THERE WAY TO BEING EMPTY, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevlol Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 A LFG/cross server Qing tool has to come first, then ranked wz will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlord- Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Ok, so they release RWZ's, then what, you wait in 8hr ques until the one other team arrives?? MOST SERVERS ARE NEAR, or ON THERE WAY TO BEING EMPTY, period. At least you can QUE as a 8man team which 99% of all guilds are hoping to do, So they have a better chance at winning. what your gonna wait till transfers? Im sorry CROSS SERVER IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN. They will barely put server transfers in on time. Edited May 9, 2012 by Overlord- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foenixz Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Not true.... the same QQers lined up in droves over Rift's alleged short comings ... it is going strong. RWZs will not kill this game ..... those who say its not coming and the death knell would be some QQing over its lameness/bugginess if they did release it as is. I am good to wait until t hey get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlord- Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) A LFG/cross server Qing tool has to come first, then ranked wz will come. Why? you cannot use chat? is it that hard? Cross server **** is not gonna happen, You will not see it for at least 6months to a year. Edited May 9, 2012 by Overlord- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LancelotOC Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Maybe they figure everyone will leave for Diablo 3 or GW 2 so they not making new stuff till they certain who will remain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehneu Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 They are listening to the Casual Player base a little to much and is causing problems with how we obtain Gear especially for PvP, Cent/Champ was essentially removed/replaced because of "Recruit gear" Which is obtainable by buying it. Which pissed off alot of people who had to earn that gear. The problem is this. Right here this. You said "they are listening to the Casual Player base..." well at this point, that is all the game has are causal players. The main thing this game needs it not more PvP. It is more population. It is spread far to thin across 200 something servers. If they still have that many still up that is. They need to merge the servers and THAT needs to be the priority. So yes, the only people left, or so it seems, are casual players due to population issues through out the entire game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlord- Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) The problem is this. Right here this. You said "they are listening to the Casual Player base..." well at this point, that is all the game has are causal players. The main thing this game needs it not more PvP. It is more population. It is spread far to thin across 200 something servers. If they still have that many still up that is. They need to merge the servers and THAT needs to be the priority. So yes, the only people left, or so it seems, are casual players due to population issues through out the entire game. Not true, They dont have all Casual, Bioware Even stated the 400k they lost WERE CASUAL PLAYERS not hardcore ones. Yesterday we told you about Star Wars: The Old Republic's official 1.3 million subscriber headcount. Electronic Arts has weighed in on the number, with CEO John Riccitello stating that the game's player numbers are "very much in line with our original assumptions." EA's Frank Gibeau says that TOR's 400,000 subscriber drop from its February peak is a result of casual players deciding not to renew after a billing cycle. Eurogamer reports that TOR falls within EA's top 10 most profitable franchises but comes up short of the Battlefield, Medal of Honor, The Sims, and Madden franchises. Riccitello also addressed TOR's high profile in both fan and media circles. "So while I understand there's an enormous amount of interest, I don't know that it warrants as much as what we're seeing right now. But we love the franchise, we're going to grow the franchise," he explained. You are obviously forgetting the reason why these people have left the GAME WHEN THE SERVERS WERE FULL WAS BECAUSE OF LACK OF CONTENT. NOW we are under populated Its the root cause u cannot expect to throw mergers / population without fixing the root cause. Edited May 9, 2012 by Overlord- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aehgo Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) Well..Biowares free 30 days is almost over,they gave it to us because of the MASSIVE decision to pull rateds hours before the patch launched.I think alot of people had the idea that rateds would be here when the 30 days ended..And now they are not..byebye swtor.. Edited May 9, 2012 by Aehgo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMunny Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 At least you can QUE as a 8man team which 99% of all guilds are hoping to do, So they have a better chance at winning. what your gonna wait till transfers? Im sorry CROSS SERVER IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN. They will barely put server transfers in on time. Cross server PvP may have no choice but to go in, unless they merge servers. or offer FREE transfers ASAP. On Kinrath there isn't enough people on most times to support an opposing team if an 8 man team Q'ued up. Repubs are a rare breed, and on the Imp side we are lucky to see 20 people on in fleet. How long before the same 2 teams get tired of facing each other? EA blew it, period. They had the resubs to give RWZ's a go until they axed them prior to 1.2. I am not sure the anally sore people will trust them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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