Warrior (Marauder) socketing

[Bionic_smile]

As a anni marauder I have been looking up socketing for intelligent optimization. I understand that there are some base scores of importance to meet, but info is so varied that some guidence seems counter productive. Aside from some sources saying socket strictly expertise for pvp others say hit 300 surge, then x hundred crit, then power. Pve I recall 110 accuracy, and a strength vs power debate.

 

Because my pvp build is all about burst damage and self healing dots, what is my priority, and what numbers should I be aiming at? Is crit and surge really more important then the big regular hits stacking strength or power first? Or do I just try and blanket expertise across everything. And typically I presure my color crytals be expertise correct?

 

Pve I understand as a dps I shouldnt be as worried about self healing, it that when I go str and power and forget surge? Forget crit? Color crytals (typically) crit or power, or do I entirely plan this based on the numbers I need to meet for my 'caps' and target scores.

 

Viowulf

Jung Ma Server

[Vid-szhite]

As a anni marauder I have been looking up socketing for intelligent optimization. I understand that there are some base scores of importance to meet, but info is so varied that some guidence seems counter productive. Aside from some sources saying socket strictly expertise for pvp others say hit 300 surge, then x hundred crit, then power. Pve I recall 110 accuracy, and a strength vs power debate.

 

Because my pvp build is all about burst damage and self healing dots, what is my priority, and what numbers should I be aiming at? Is crit and surge really more important then the big regular hits stacking strength or power first? Or do I just try and blanket expertise across everything. And typically I presure my color crytals be expertise correct?

 

Pve I understand as a dps I shouldnt be as worried about self healing, it that when I go str and power and forget surge? Forget crit? Color crytals (typically) crit or power, or do I entirely plan this based on the numbers I need to meet for my 'caps' and target scores.

 

Viowulf

Jung Ma Server

 

Depends entirely on your spec, and there is really no such thing as a softcap except for Surge, which drops off at 75%. If your spec relies on automatic crits for its burst damage, avoid crit and go for surge until it's 71%+, then power/STR. If your spec relies on added effects from getting crits, but does not guarantee them, stack crit. If your spec uses force attacks primarily, don't bother with accuracy, but if you rely on weapon attacks (as Annihilation does to land its DoTs), you'll want at least 100% accuracy.

 

Asking for "Marauder" advice is too broad, since the specs all focus on something different. Rage relies on Automatic Crits and Force Attacks, so should stack power, while Carnage has a little bit of everything, so should have an even spread of all stats, and Annihilation focuses almost entirely on weapon attacks with DoTs attached, and gains tremendously off of critical hits, but doesn't have guaranteed criticals outside of Berserk, so should get accuracy and stack Crit.

 

However, do note that stacking Crit overwhelmingly is usually not very rewarding unless your spec rewards critical hits in some way. In fact, I'd say Crit is the least rewarding DPS stat in the game unless your spec has +crit damage or heals on crit.

Edited May 9, 2012 by Vid-szhite

[Bionic_smile]

Asking for "Marauder" advice is too broad, since the specs all focus on something different.

 

Thank you,

... this part is what Im saying... all the "advice" generally posted to reference I have found has its own diminishing returns in that it has been blanket advice to all warriors and not specific or offering direction to the intent of spec. For me as an Annihlation spec Im holding the skeleton build every Annihlation tree has in common and playing around with my other few points from time to time.

 

My intent is to avoid rotating specs, and hold two sets of gear (pvp and pve) self healing crit chasing pvp with of course its respectable burst damage, and just plain high pve damage. So I understand accuracy up to 100-110, surge rating 75% or so (thank you again), that i need crit>str/power (what ratio or numbers marks am I lookin for here?). So expertise in pvp first, then folllow that example? PvE same numbers (but ignore expertise), because Im keeping the same build, or would stat preference change to str>crit>surge because I dont need the self healing anymore?

 

-Viowulf

Jung Ma server

[pvtglass]

DONT STACK ACCURACY TO 110%

Do yourself a favor and run like 100% and do a full ops hard mode clear and see how many misses you have at the end of the run. 110% is just a terrible waste of stat weights.

[Vid-szhite]

DONT STACK ACCURACY TO 110%

Do yourself a favor and run like 100% and do a full ops hard mode clear and see how many misses you have at the end of the run. 110% is just a terrible waste of stat weights.

 

Yes. Accuracy up to 110% requires so much investment that it's not worth it. 100% is a number you'll want, but I'd stop at 105% at the very most.

 

As for ratios, don't buy into ratios, they don't matter here, since diminishing returns factors in how much of every stat you have, and if you completely ignore one, the others give you much less return. Just get enough of certain stats until they hit a target number (For example: Accuracy to 100%, Crit to 30%, Surge to 71%), then start stacking power. Obviously, STR comes naturally with better gear, so you should always have more of it, and since it gives both crit chance and power, it's a better investment than pure crit. On the downside, it's harder to come by.

 

More investment in a certain stat probably means about 5% more bonus at most. Heavy Accuracy investment should stop at around 105%, heavy crit should be 35%.

Edited May 10, 2012 by Vid-szhite