Redmyst Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I would like to ask what is Bioware doing to address the current state of PVP? We rarely see any comment on these forums and when we do its usually a half baked lie. currently in game. they reduced the comm/money/valor for finishing a warzone win or lose. Losing hurts more as you can wind up with 0-0-0-0. so no reward there they reduced our armor stats for pve making it harder, not impossible to do ops and hard modes. This causes more deaths and leads to repair bills. since we make no money pvp'ing anymore this becomes a money sink till we are geared with pve armor. then you throw in the exploiters and cheaters in the game, we have one guild on our server that encourages its members to download the third party dev tool and use it. It allows you to speed hack as well as adjust other skills and reduce cool down timers on your skills.. People play this game to have fun with friends and make new friends while enjoying the content and pvp. pvp in not really working out on the enjoyment end and pve is a money sink. so whats left? I would like to know if Bioware is actually trying to address these and many other issues? if not then I will take my money else and try a different game. I have been holding out hope that they would address them but they havent yet. I know this will not be replied to by any member of Bioware nor its customer support team, so I will just say this is a vent of the current game and leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidJustice Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) You need to do a bit more research before you start complaining. BW has stated they are reducing the medals needed to gain Wz credits to 1 <bad idea in my book>They are also significantly raising the credits and com's for a loss <good idea in any book> Feel free to use the search function, the dev tracker, or even read a few posts in the future! Please also immediately report anyone you believe is hacking, just be sure it's not a rarely used class skill, lag or bug and you are not being a giant nub, when you do, as there are few CSR's and others have important issues to be addressed. thx! Edited April 18, 2012 by VoidJustice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmyst Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 You need to do a bit more research before you start complaining. BW has stated they are reducing the medals needed to gain Wz credits to 1 <bad idea in my book> They are also significantly raising the credits and com's for a loss <good idea in any book> Feel free to use the search function, the dev tracker, or even read a few posts in the future! they also said they were rolling out rated warzones as well as some other features.. so how did that pan out.. you should do some research as well and look at their track record before you start coming to their defense.. feel free to use the search feature and dev tracker to look at their checkered past of what they say and what they actually do.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kajanii Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 The only reason you get 0/0/0 in a warzone is because you don't play objectives. Why do you even play warzones if you don't play to win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordredz Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 they also said they were rolling out rated warzones as well as some other features.. so how did that pan out.. you should do some research as well and look at their track record before you start coming to their defense.. feel free to use the search feature and dev tracker to look at their checkered past of what they say and what they actually do.. There working on it as the other poster said, read a bit before you complain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escarrabutxaques Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 since we make no money pvp'ing anymore this becomes a money sink till we are geared with pve armor. You are doing it wrong. PVE money sink? Really? Done 4 dailies on Belsavis, went to EV = + ~250k credits. I agree on hackers/people using exploits though. BW really needs to look into their client to provide some protection from hacks (since there are plenty of bots/hacks for swtor, I assume that its really easy to hack this game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labze Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 they also said they were rolling out rated warzones as well as some other features.. so how did that pan out.. you should do some research as well and look at their track record before you start coming to their defense.. feel free to use the search feature and dev tracker to look at their checkered past of what they say and what they actually do.. Being delayed is not the same as not coming at all. The changes mentioned to warzones will most likely hit in a week or two, be patient. Why being so hateful against his defense, he atleast states something useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmyst Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 The only reason you get 0/0/0 in a warzone is because you don't play objectives. Why do you even play warzones if you don't play to win? and your wrong. in a civil war wz last night, we captured the east turret to start off, i stayed back to defend while my team tried to capture the mid or west. While there I received no defender points even while defending against a few opposing players. So once they were killed and someone took my place i went on the offensive and received no attacker points while trying to take mid in a coordinated attack. I got my healing medal and the capture medal, I also got my 300k medal and the killing blow medal.but for 3 straight civil war warzones i received no defender/attacker points. I did do a bug report on this, but i wonder if they actually test/play their own game? with the stated four medals I should have had the minimum required to get something, but instead got nothing. another bug report was filed. I play every warzone to win, but i am failing to see how the current system entices people to come back to try again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidJustice Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) they also said they were rolling out rated warzones as well as some other features.. so how did that pan out.. you should do some research as well and look at their track record before you start coming to their defense.. feel free to use the search feature and dev tracker to look at their checkered past of what they say and what they actually do.. I love BW's track record, they have IMHO, fixed pvp and created GREAT BALANCE where once there was just a steaming pit of imperial sorcerors and unkillable BH's. They created a new fun and incredible world event, that is a blast and encourages OWPVP They have lowered the grind for PVP rewards SIGNIFICANTLY for everyone except... for those that cronically fail at making medals or helping thier team win matches... Although honestly, people making less than 30 coms in a losing warzone weren't even close to pulling thier weight. Btw... bugs happen in every game, and I spend plenty of matches solo'ing a tower myself, that's horrible but, it's how the game plays out, adapt, overcome.. If you are making 30+ coms in a warzone you are making incredibly fast progress towards BM gear which used to take SIGNIFICANTLY longer to gain. I personally make sure my team wins our Wz and when we lose... I suck it up. I think the patch is great. Im having a blast with the game, and so are my guild mates and the rest of my servers swelling popluation. Yes I also have played and won warzones and got nothing, no coms, no valor, no progress toward the daily. It's rare, it stinks, but it will eventually get ironed out. If you aren't having fun, I advise you to do something else that is fun, then come back and see if your happy playing and if not... unsub. Edited April 18, 2012 by VoidJustice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reeny Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 In Voidstar, you basically have to fight the other team to prevent capping or to cap the door. No standing around, doing nothing. If you are like me, a casual player and going up against premades in BM/WH gear, getting killed in 3 sec is common. I do my part to try and prevent the door cap but i get CC/bounced around/die fast. End up with a loss, 1 medal(10 kills) and nothing to show for it. The only reason you get 0/0/0 in a warzone is because you don't play objectives. Why do you even play warzones if you don't play to win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmyst Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 I love BW's track record, they have IMHO, fixed pvp and created GREAT BALANCE where once there was just a steaming pit of imperial sorcerors. They created a new fun and incredible world event, that is a blast and encourages OWPVP They have lowered the grind for PVP rewards SIGNIFICANTLY for everyone except... for those that cronically fail at making medals or helping thier team win matches... Although honestly, people making less than 30 coms in a losing warzone weren't even close to pulling thier weight. Btw... bugs happen in every game, and I spend plenty of matches solo'ing a tower myself, that's horrible but, it's how the game plays out, adapt, overcome.. If you are making 30+ coms in a warzone you are making incredibly fast progress towards BM gear which used to take SIGNIFICANTLY longer to gain. I personally make sure my team wins our Wz and when we lose... I suck it up. I think the patch is great. Im having a blast with the game, and so are my guild mates and the rest of my servers swelling popluation. and up till yesterday I would have agreed with you, but since 1.2 more and more exploiters are running rampant on our server. I enjoy watching a republic player speed hack from east to west in under 3 seconds or watch as he disappears repeatedly in the same fight in less than 30 second intervals. The world event is nice, but I am on one of those servers that is heavy republic not imperial so even though we had even sides at first, they always call in friends and make it a 5 to 1 match. I just moved on and dropped the event quests as there was nothing to do. I love the new warzone, but dealing with exploiters in the new warzone make it harder to win even one of them. I usually never quit a warzone as I think it sets a bad example and can soil my guilds rep. SO i stick it out till the end hoping to get enough medals to get some comms. When we win, i get between 80 and 100, when we lose I normally get between 30 and 50. I am not grinding for battlemaster gear as I was a pre 1.2 full bm geared BH. I am working on my war hero gear which is a grind. I had hoped they would have let us trade our merc comms for ranked warznone comms but that didnt happen. a few suggestions I have submitted.. implement a in game chat system, this will help pug'ers get more coordinated on defending and attacking introduce the same taking of a control point in civil war as they have in NC. fix resolve or remove cc till they can address it, no one should be able to be stunned to death. I have seen too many on both sides where the players is defenseless to stay alive because he is stunned the whole time. introduce cross server ranked/ non ranked warzones. just a few suggestions, the in game chat would be a huge help in evening things on winning and losing. Most pre-mades are using a chat system which helps them coordinate better to start off with. I know my guild does, and I know of a lot do. But what if there were a in game system that allowed you to speak with everyone, so much easier to say incoming east, 3, instead of trying to type it while defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knockturnalx Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 The only reason you get 0/0/0 in a warzone is because you don't play objectives. Why do you even play warzones if you don't play to win? Last I checked pvp always has been and always will be about killing other people. Maybe I'm to old school but whatever. I hate to say it but shouldn't people get rewarded for lets say killing other people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Karsk Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I love BW's track record, they have IMHO, fixed pvp and created GREAT BALANCE where once there was just a steaming pit of imperial sorcerors and unkillable BH's. They created a new fun and incredible world event, that is a blast and encourages OWPVP They have lowered the grind for PVP rewards SIGNIFICANTLY for everyone except... for those that cronically fail at making medals or helping thier team win matches... Although honestly, people making less than 30 coms in a losing warzone weren't even close to pulling thier weight. Btw... bugs happen in every game, and I spend plenty of matches solo'ing a tower myself, that's horrible but, it's how the game plays out, adapt, overcome.. If you are making 30+ coms in a warzone you are making incredibly fast progress towards BM gear which used to take SIGNIFICANTLY longer to gain. I personally make sure my team wins our Wz and when we lose... I suck it up. I think the patch is great. Im having a blast with the game, and so are my guild mates and the rest of my servers swelling popluation. Yes I also have played and won warzones and got nothing, no coms, no valor, no progress toward the daily. It's rare, it stinks, but it will eventually get ironed out. If you aren't having fun, I advise you to do something else that is fun, then come back and see if your happy playing and if not... unsub. Bioware hire this man, he is as clueless as you on PvP and know nothing when it comes to knowing what the PvP community want.He will fit right into your staff and make sure you lose even more subs. (joking do not hire him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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