rymanx Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Id really like an answer from a dev on this? is this bugged? 9 wins nets you 99/99. 3 daily wins gets you 99/99. makes no sense. Discuss
wessik Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 i'm not a dev but i don't know what they'd tell you different... http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=419498
rymanx Posted April 18, 2012 Author Posted April 18, 2012 pre 1.2 daily = 1 BM bag weekly = 1 BM bag + 2 champ bags 1.2 daily = 99 ranked comms + 99 wz comms weekly = 99 ranked comms + 99 wz comms it's pretty much the same... if you want the equivalent of pre-1.2, you should be asking for 99 ranked + 99 wz + 2 pieces of recruit gear.... is that what you want? Pretty much the same eh? Im no good at math but let me add this up for you. using your own logic.... pre 1.2 1 daily got you 1 champ or bm bag. post 1.2 1 daily got you 99/99. that makes sense. 1 champ/bm bag pre 1.2 equals 99/99 post 1.2........ pre 1.2 weekly = 2 champ bags and option for third or 1 bm bag. post 1.2 weekly..........99/99 hows is that pretty much the same? if champ bag dailies are the equivalent to 99/99 then a weekly should at least equal 297/297.
Kaarsa Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Pretty much the same eh? Im no good at math but let me add this up for you. using your own logic.... pre 1.2 1 daily got you 1 champ or bm bag. post 1.2 1 daily got you 99/99. that makes sense. 1 champ/bm bag pre 1.2 equals 99/99 post 1.2........ pre 1.2 weekly = 2 champ bags and option for third or 1 bm bag. post 1.2 weekly..........99/99 hows is that pretty much the same? if champ bag dailies are the equivalent to 99/99 then a weekly should at least equal 297/297. Pre 1.2 daily - champ OR BM, when you are at 60 Valor, you dont want champ anyway, so 1 BM bag Post 1.2 daily - 99/99 comms. 99/99 = 1 BM bag Pre 1.2 weekly - 1 BM bag, 2 champ bags. You dont get anything worthwile (ie. no chance for BM stuff) from champ bag ie. pre 1.2 weekly = 1 BM bag Post 1.2 weekly - 99/99 comms 99 comms = 1 BM bag It is the same. Not that I like it, I would prefere at least 200/200, but I can see logic behind current solution.
Jestersdead Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 My theory is that they only coded for two digits and can't do over 99.
vimm Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 My theory is that they only coded for two digits and can't do over 99. Do more stacks of 99 and face the embarrassment!
wessik Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) Pre 1.2 daily - champ OR BM, when you are at 60 Valor, you dont want champ anyway, so 1 BM bag Post 1.2 daily - 99/99 comms. 99/99 = 1 BM bag Pre 1.2 weekly - 1 BM bag, 2 champ bags. You dont get anything worthwile (ie. no chance for BM stuff) from champ bag ie. pre 1.2 weekly = 1 BM bag Post 1.2 weekly - 99/99 comms 99 comms = 1 BM bag It is the same. Not that I like it, I would prefere at least 200/200, but I can see logic behind current solution. exactly... when you are a battlemaster, trying to get more battlemaster tokens, champion gear is essentially useless... just like recruit gear now would be useless to you now when you want more BM gear... Edited April 18, 2012 by wessik
rymanx Posted April 18, 2012 Author Posted April 18, 2012 ok,i understand that clearer now, so in that sense, the bm comms are now actually equal to 99/99 for the daily.....however still....if the daily (3 wins = 99/99). then the weekly is still way under rewarded. no mmo game on earth except this one, there is a daily reward = to a weekly. so this still makes no sense to me
Jatne Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 I find your sense of entitlement disturbing. The most you need to spend now is what... 1600 WZ comms for a BM weapon? You used to have to take your chances with RNG and/or buy the 1k Merc 1K WZ tokens at 4k WZ tokens per... even with the ratio changes, this system is a lot more achievable. I guess you'd like them to just hand out the second tier of gear? What would you do then? You obviously do not just PvP for the enjoyment of killing people if you need to think about AND take the time to complain about what amounts to free stuff for doing PvP... which a true PvPer would be doing anyway.
JMCH Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 exactly... when you are a battlemaster, trying to get more battlemaster tokens, champion gear is essentially useless... just like recruit gear now would be useless to you now when you want more BM gear... Champ tokens/comms had more use than recruit actually, as you could use them to gear your companions. Who would give severely nerfed gear with an insane useless expertise boost to his companions?
skotish Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 I find your sense of entitlement disturbing. The most you need to spend now is what... 1600 WZ comms for a BM weapon? You used to have to take your chances with RNG and/or buy the 1k Merc 1K WZ tokens at 4k WZ tokens per... even with the ratio changes, this system is a lot more achievable. I guess you'd like them to just hand out the second tier of gear? What would you do then? You obviously do not just PvP for the enjoyment of killing people if you need to think about AND take the time to complain about what amounts to free stuff for doing PvP... which a true PvPer would be doing anyway. Are you serious its got nothing to do with entitlement daily = 3 games/ weekly = 9 games Why is the rewards the same!! They have made a mistake somewhere and tbh i love my grind and dont think am entitled to anything
Kaarsa Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Champ tokens/comms had more use than recruit actually, as you could use them to gear your companions. Who would give severely nerfed gear with an insane useless expertise boost to his companions? I did (just because I could;))
me_unknown Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 actually i am glad it is like this now. it keeps people playing more.
Steele_dk Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 I think the OP is expressing the frustration of missing logic in 1.2 when we were used to in pre 1.2 that a daily reward meant small reward and the weekly reward meant the big reward. Having the 2 same quests reward the same now but one of the quests takes 3 times as long to do is not logic. I remember discussing this with my guildmate first day of 1.2 and we automatically then assumed that 99 from daily would mean perhaps 199 from weekly, or even more giving the sky high war hero prices. Boy was we wrong Bioware, logic you have, not in this game made.
Riogha Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 actually i am glad it is like this now. it keeps people playing more. I don't think it keeps them playing more, i think it tells them to log off log on an alt to lvl up.It can get very boring very fast trying to earn comms on an unbalanced server when your loosing 30 games a day and perhaps only winning 2-3. Worst case scenario 30 loss's is 0-20 comms. no dail,weekly reward = depressed Republic player, which i see on a daily basis on my server, they often swap sides never to be seen for a week or two.
LarryRow Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) Some more math... Pre 1.2, it took, on average, 8 dailies to get 2 BM comms, which bought most BM gear. That's 8 bags x .25 chance to get a comm. Grinding 1000/1000 should be considered too, so let's say 3 comms for 1.5 pieces of gear. Now we get 792 WZ comms from 8 dailies plus all the comms from actually completing the dailies - about another 2000 comms if all you do is win and you buy some medpacs/adrenals. That's around 2800, which is 2-3 pieces of BM gear under the new pricing. I'd say we are doing OK. I'd also say double or triple rewards from the weekly would be nice, since you get so many more comms from just playing anyway. Edit: it's really closer to 2-3 pieces of gear for 2800 comms instead of 2-4, so I made the correction Edited April 18, 2012 by LarryRow
Khoraji Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Are you serious its got nothing to do with entitlement daily = 3 games/ weekly = 9 games Why is the rewards the same!! They have made a mistake somewhere and tbh i love my grind and dont think am entitled to anything You have 1 week to do the 9 games You have 1 day to do 3 if anything the weekly should have less rewards because it is easier to get.
NDiggy Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 This needs to change. I was griping I'm guild chat about this yesterday. At least double the comms for the weekly.
Jatne Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 I don't think it keeps them playing more, i think it tells them to log off log on an alt to lvl up.It can get very boring very fast trying to earn comms on an unbalanced server when your loosing 30 games a day and perhaps only winning 2-3. Worst case scenario 30 loss's is 0-20 comms. no dail,weekly reward = depressed Republic player, which i see on a daily basis on my server, they often swap sides never to be seen for a week or two. I rerolled from Empire to Republic, because of the imbalance. You know what I have to say? If you can't make some friends, get in voice chat and work together as... a team, you don't deserve to win games reliably. Why do the Imperials 'always' win? Is it their abilities have no cooldowns? Is it that every single Imperial is 'full battlemaster' from the minute they hit level 50? No. It's that on most servers they have more players, meaning they can succeed in world PvP more. Oh... wait a minute, I thought that Warzones had fixed numbers. If you want to win, you can QQ about populaton imbalances and wait for BioWare to give every character full War Hero gear at level 50 and/or cap the amount of players one faction can have per server OR you can dust the sand out of your... eyes and learn2teamwork.
Nastynas Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Level 50 Warzone quests now award a handful of commendations but the bulk will be earned by performance in Warzones. This ensures the focus remains on the direct Warzone reward mechanics. http://www.swtor.com/blog/pvp-game-update-1.2 So, it is intended.
rymanx Posted April 18, 2012 Author Posted April 18, 2012 http://www.swtor.com/blog/pvp-game-update-1.2 So, it is intended. Thanks for finding and sharing this!
Anelitt Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Why so whiny? There is no rule stating the weekly should give more. Its a free bonus, you get the weekly done when you do your dailys without having to move a finger. Why the **** should it give more then?
rymanx Posted April 18, 2012 Author Posted April 18, 2012 I find your sense of entitlement disturbing. The most you need to spend now is what... 1600 WZ comms for a BM weapon? You used to have to take your chances with RNG and/or buy the 1k Merc 1K WZ tokens at 4k WZ tokens per... even with the ratio changes, this system is a lot more achievable. I guess you'd like them to just hand out the second tier of gear? What would you do then? You obviously do not just PvP for the enjoyment of killing people if you need to think about AND take the time to complain about what amounts to free stuff for doing PvP... which a true PvPer would be doing anyway. I find your need to troll and be a keyboard commando disturbing? Im simply asking a question? Im not on here saying "give me more comms or im going to quit." I guess im not a true PvPer cause when i get done slaying pixels all day in warzones I find it odd that a daily and weekly gives the same reward. try reading the one sentence subject before jumping to conclusions and try to sound cool in front of your internet girlfriends tough guy.
Zocat Posted April 18, 2012 Posted April 18, 2012 Should add some medpacs / adrenals to it. Just a small bonus incentive.
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