Grolmn Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 So I am a healer. I am not a big time player. I hold my own, but I end up in a match against a bunch of war heroes and we have mainly new 50s. Of course we get completely rolled. There is nothing we can do about it. They out gear us too badly. I heal as best I can and end up with 2 medals (2.5 Heal and 75K healing). When the loss in inevitable I spend the last minute on our only turret. I get no defender medals at all for this. Match ends and I get zero commendations!!!! Who the heck thought this was a good idea. It's not my fault I don't have an elite group of 3 others to run with, I only have so much time. Are you trying to punish the casual players??? Seriously who thought this was a good idea, are you trying to lose subscriptions?? If this was intentional then BW is truly a bunch of idiots when it comes to appealing to a large player base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Moonshadow Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I agree. But considering no matter what any game developer does to fix PvP, the playerbase seems to just complain about it. Maybe removing PvP altogether and sending you all to Call of Duty is the answer, because apparently PvP guy is only happy with PvP when he has racial slurs being flung at him through a headphone. Seriously, PvP people, what do you want? What the Hoth do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grolmn Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 We want commendations for the time we spend in a match to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Moonshadow Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 We want commendations for the time we spend in a match to start. But when you get that, you complain about how people zone in and afk and are rewarded for doing nothing. Do you understand why it's so hard to please you people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grolmn Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 You must be right, its so much more satisfying to erroneously punish people for something they didn't do. Great idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Moonshadow Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 You must be right, its so much more satisfying to erroneously punish people for something they didn't do. Great idea! Well it's what they got from the forums prior to 1.2. If you get rewards for your time in the game, then people do nothing and get rewarded for it. You come here and complain. If we take the rewards away, you complain that your time is wasted and drop the Warzone. You come here and complain. So if you actually have some idea has to how PvP can be "done right", please explain it. Because Bioware, Blizzard and every other game developer with PvP in their game are at a lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grolmn Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 So you're brilliant plan is to not say anything or not play at all I take it. Yeah, that'll work. Clearly punishing people for not really being afk is stupid, but I guess you are ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidpop Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) But when you get that, you complain about how people zone in and afk and are rewarded for doing nothing. Do you understand why it's so hard to please you people? There will always be people who are looking for shortcuts and afk in warzones for example, but it is Biowares job to police and and ban those people, not punish people who are actually playing the game. That being said, people are missing the core problem with the new medal system, the rewards are not big enough wheter you win or lose, if you play 2 hours aday and win all your games, it will take you 6 months to get the WH set. That is a long time, dont you think? Edited April 15, 2012 by davidpop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sendai_S Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 There does need to be a minimum amount given at least for the time spent going in and getting your *** kicked. On my low pop server I hardly get a pre-made and do PUGs.... there I lose more than I win unfortunately. And there are times NOW - where the match starts and they have 8 and we have 3. That's jsut not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirorx Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 This game is working as intended. You may not like it, heck to some degree i do agree with you. Of course this is mainstream mmo gaming at its finest. It is aim at the massive playerbase not the niche community. It is simple and it is a grindfest for gear because, well that is what sells. Just look at the community here, everything going the way its suppose to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneberry Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Competitive PvP, Killing MMO's since TBC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidpop Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Competitive PvP, Killing MMO's since TBC! Do they sould do RvR, i dont understand why more mmos dont do that, why all these small instanced maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fomby Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 1v1 situations with a good healer and a mediocre to good dps is a face roll win for the dps. What's the point of healing when this happens? It's not even like the healers last long, so you can't use the distraction argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grolmn Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 Which do you think is the niche community? The uber PVP'ers don't fit that category IMO. YOu want to appeal to the casual players because that will be the bulk of your player base. Since this is a progression game, if you take away their entire ability to progress you will find them leaving the game. Clearly BW went too far. They created a cure that was worse than the original disease. Here is what is starting to happen now because of what did. It was easily predictable too. When a person with some skill joins a PVP match they are going to check out who has joined with them. IF they don't think they have a chance because of too many new 50s or known bad players they will simply logout and drop the match. In addition since you are outmatched it is likely you will get fewer medals. Why waste the time on a match that is will give you zero or little progress? This will continue till they figure they can't get a winning match at all, so they just stop Q'ing. With no reason to PVP anymore you hope your PVE content will hold them, but most likely they will just take their monthly subscription elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMotha Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) There does need to be a minimum amount given at least for the time spent going in and getting your *** kicked... Sendai, now that was worth quoting! (Thank you for saying it.) And I agree with you! SneakyTurd - "BioWare Gods, I just got beat down like a dog in that 100 vs 3 PVP match! But I fought back as hard as I could, dagnabbit! May I have some compensation, please... a crumb of bread, a sip of water???" BioWare Gods - "NO!" Edited April 15, 2012 by SneakyTurd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Moonshadow Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Sendai, now that was worth quoting! (Thank you for saying it.) And I agree with you! SneakyTurd - "BioWare Gods, I just got beat down like a dog in that 100 vs 3 PVP match! But I fought back as hard as I could, dagnabbit! May I have some compensation, please... a crumb of bread, a sip of water???" BioWare Gods - "NO!" Let me remind you what you said prior to 1.2.... *Flashback to a month ago* SneakyTurd- "OMG WE'RE GETTING OUR BUTTS KICKED HERE! WHERE IS OUR HEALER? Healer- "lol this new Shane Dawson video is hilarious." Random DPS- "Haha haha ha, You guys are fighting a losing battle! Just let them win so I can get my prize bag." Batman PvP guy- "I will rush ahead and take them all on because I am Batma-oh I'm dead." SneakyTurd- "That is it! Bioware Gods, these idiots are of no help yet you give them the same rewards as me! I demand you punish them! Bioware- "Just how are we supposed to do that?" SneakyTurd- "I don't know! I pay you to do the thinking! Fix it! FIXITFIXITFIXITFIXIT! Darth Moonshadow- "Hey guys! Did you hear about this new music craze called Disco? It'll never go out of style!" *plays the disco version of the Star Wars Theme* *Everyone in the Warzones dances* *Flashback ends* Ugh! Why did I think those bell bottom robes were a good idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyMotha Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Ok, Darth_Moonshadow, you got me! You and your dang Flashback machine! I hear you, bro... there's no easy fix to this problem. Funny commentary, though! Goodnite, All Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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