SteveoStudios Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 The imps are even more over powered and just farm Rebs for medals. Now I have to earn at least 3 medals to get any valor, credits, wz coms, exc. This patch ruined PVP and I have been playing pvp since leveled to 50 2 months ago. I think they made this game worse with the new patch and if they don't fix it very quickly I will be leaving and going to Diablo 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbewan Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I've noticed a considerable change in warzone outcomes since this week's patch also. I was under the impression that this patch would even things out somewhat but, if anything I find that fighting Imperial players in warzones is harder than before the patch. Since my specialization, gear and playstyle haven't changed and yet, my win / loss ratio has gone way down when fighting Imps only, I conclude that the 1.2 patch changes are responsible. Something's definitely wrong. I'm waiting to see if Bioware really does listen to their community as they say they do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Final_Fantasy Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 How are Imps over powered? All classes are essentially mirrored on the other side. Might to do more with what classes people roll depending on Faction and number of players than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterbmt Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 i feel that the reps were overpowered and won 90% of the time they only evened it out i am sure it alot more fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffordt Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Before I would enter matches 6 or less Vs 8 once in about 5 matches, now this is about 3 in 5 matches. This is followed by 2 or more players dropping out in the first minute. Even great players can't consistently win like this. The Imbalance is getting worse and worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirium Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Before I would enter matches 6 or less Vs 8 once in about 5 matches, now this is about 3 in 5 matches. This is followed by 2 or more players dropping out in the first minute. Even great players can't consistently win like this. The Imbalance is getting worse and worse. This. The problem isn't that Imps are OP, it's that imps are now free to zerg since WZ matches don't close based on pop imbalance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haruen Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 As an Empire player in random PVP Alderaan match I had the following: 1) guarded my objectives, 2) drew enemy off targets, 3) won MVP Only had two medals. Team won the match, I got nothing for my time. Joined Voidstar random match: 1) Clearly overmatched (no healing on ourside) 2) My team quits except one other 3) We stay so match ends normally Nothing for my time Played Novare Coast 1) Worked on capturing points 2) Figured out how the match worked Only two medals, zero points for my time/effort As a Jugg, the most I would 3-5 medals in a match. 2-3 has been normal for me. I have no reason to continue playing PVP as my Jugg. While my other toons always make 3+ I found this extremely demotivating. Have no interest in PVP now. Hoping for major improvements before my six month sub runs out. As it is, I'm not seeing a reason to stay here once GW2 launches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaoogaa Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) How are Imps over powered? All classes are essentially mirrored on the other side. Might to do more with what classes people roll depending on Faction and number of players than anything else. On average across most of the servers imps have better gear. Only BM gear was buffed so anyone in champion gear is looking at a target that has 5% more DR and 10% more damage output then in 1.2. So if rebs are undergeared then the other side will seem OP because they only buffed BM...if you think recruit armor lets you compete...check out the stats. The expertise is good but the base stats are terrible and BM far outshines it....again the patch did chance the dynamic a great deal for imbalanced servers. Something else BW didn't take into account. Edited April 15, 2012 by Aaoogaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbewan Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) As I indicated in my post, I have the same spec, gear and playstyle. I was pointing out a noticeable difference in PVP against Imp players from one day (pre1.2) to the next (post1.2). The past few days of PVP since the patch have been miserable and many people I've played with in warzones have commented similarly. Gear, Battlemaster or otherwise, has nothing to do with it. ...and I'm wearing Battlemaster gear. Edited April 15, 2012 by Oldbewan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldbewan Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 To the Imperial player pointing out the problem of playing and not being rewarded, I sympathize. I had five matches end the same way today. I don't PVP to sit around and collect rewards on the backs of others. I come to play and be challenged which means supporting my team and taking it to the enemy. I don't like giving 110% for 20 - 30 minutes only, to get 0% for it. I'm spending my time posting here instead of playing because the PVP changes introduced with patch 1.2 - make doing this - more enjoyable. I hope Bioware is paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iacon Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) I have to agree with the posts so far. Getting absolutely nothing when spending 15 minutes or more getting stomped on by opponents better equipped that you does nothing to make me want to keep going. At least before I might have gotten wasted, but I got something for my time. Now it's hours and hours of beat downs for nothing. Getting rid of the 2 minute quit out for not enough players was a mistake also. 5 vs 8 is rather common and when there are more than a couple of war heroes on the opponents side it makes it very difficult to make any headway. Edited April 15, 2012 by iacon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofchiefy Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I switched from Pub side to Imp side about halfway through since release and I can tell you straight out I've got 2 chars exaclty at the same level on imp side as my pub char (all are about valor 60). The biggest thing I've noticed is just how poor the quality of PvP players are generally on the Pub side compared to imps, and you really notice it playing against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckatre Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Ever as in being December of 2011???? wow this game keeps on getting more and more ancient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaoogaa Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) Anyway warzones on my server have been much better since the patch...except when we have to play rep vs rep matches. Cannot stand same faction PVP. We have a good wz rate pretty much throughout the day...for some reason though it seems most of our imp players are east coasters because about the same time everynight we get an hour of rep vs. rep matches. The only change I have seen was having to spec out of healing to be effective. They win more huttball because of the sorc population and we win more voidstar because in close quarters the heavy sorc population is easy to blow up. Edited April 15, 2012 by Aaoogaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VivianLeigh Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 Perhaps it's just the different servers because on mine at any time of the day, the empire is having a **** time winning at all. I had a pvp daily for 3 wins and it took me 4 days to complete it. It should never take 4 days to complete a pvp daily, that's why it's called a daily. It seems that no matter what the Empire does, we can't win and simply end up being farmed for medals and to be honest, I'm sick and tired of playing pvp for HOURS on end only to have a few commendations at the end of the day. How in the hell am I supposed to even get geared up in order to go up against the other side? I'm seriously about to quit because of this ****. So maybe before you go on and on about how you can't beat the empire and to leave it alone, think about how unbalanced it is on other servers as well. At the end of the day, it was far better before 1.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirium Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 I played over 10 WZ matches today and finally gave up after getting my 8th 3v8 warzone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlaveV Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 As an Empire player in random PVP Alderaan match I had the following: 1) guarded my objectives, 2) drew enemy off targets, 3) won MVP Only had two medals. Team won the match, I got nothing for my time. Joined Voidstar random match: 1) Clearly overmatched (no healing on ourside) 2) My team quits except one other 3) We stay so match ends normally Nothing for my time Played Novare Coast 1) Worked on capturing points 2) Figured out how the match worked Only two medals, zero points for my time/effort As a Jugg, the most I would 3-5 medals in a match. 2-3 has been normal for me. I have no reason to continue playing PVP as my Jugg. While my other toons always make 3+ I found this extremely demotivating. Have no interest in PVP now. Hoping for major improvements before my six month sub runs out. As it is, I'm not seeing a reason to stay here once GW2 launches. I don't understand how you only got 2 medals? Seriously, you get one medal for just standing there on defense. And, if you get a killing blow you get another. That's two right there. If you are averaging 2-3 medals per match, you are seriously doing something very, very wrong. I average 5 medals per match and that is with sub-par gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subatomix Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 The fact taht 5 v 8 warzones take place AT ALL is inexcusable, plain and simple. It has nothing to do with the fact that the game came out last December. It's a simple thing to fix and shows quite clearly the quality this game has under the hood. $200,000,000 bought some nice voice overs, decent 3D engine and cool star wars models (which already existed thanks to the recent movies). But it didn't buy a quality game. It's been showing that more and more with each new "patch." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlaveV Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 The fact taht 5 v 8 warzones take place AT ALL is inexcusable, plain and simple. It has nothing to do with the fact that the game came out last December. It's a simple thing to fix and shows quite clearly the quality this game has under the hood. $200,000,000 bought some nice voice overs, decent 3D engine and cool star wars models (which already existed thanks to the recent movies). But it didn't buy a quality game. It's been showing that more and more with each new "patch." This response is epic fail. QQ more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeopardydd Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 This response is epic fail. QQ more. are you kidding me? you are saying that the comment: "The fact taht 5 v 8 warzones take place AT ALL is inexcusable, plain and simple" is an epic fail? you have battered wife syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrubtastic Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 As an Empire player in random PVP Alderaan match I had the following: 1) guarded my objectives, 2) drew enemy off targets, 3) won MVP Only had two medals. Team won the match, I got nothing for my time. Joined Voidstar random match: 1) Clearly overmatched (no healing on ourside) 2) My team quits except one other 3) We stay so match ends normally Nothing for my time Played Novare Coast 1) Worked on capturing points 2) Figured out how the match worked Only two medals, zero points for my time/effort As a Jugg, the most I would 3-5 medals in a match. 2-3 has been normal for me. I have no reason to continue playing PVP as my Jugg. While my other toons always make 3+ I found this extremely demotivating. Have no interest in PVP now. Hoping for major improvements before my six month sub runs out. As it is, I'm not seeing a reason to stay here once GW2 launches. You're obviously bad. Our jugg would get 10-12 medals pre 1.2 and with the weird medal counts now he gets like 17 each game. Losing or winning game he's always #1 in medals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckatre Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 You're obviously bad. Our jugg would get 10-12 medals pre 1.2 and with the weird medal counts now he gets like 17 each game. Losing or winning game he's always #1 in medals. I can second this. I'm a tank spec tank gear jugg and I have the same results although its more accurately 17-19 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murillio Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) PVP has been fine for me. My dps Commando usually avgs about 7-9 medals a match, and I've won just as many as lost. My Sith Jugg gets about 9-11 medals (got 13 once as well) and, like my trooper, I've won and lost my share of matches. At least in my server, there doesn't seem to be a huge imbalance between imps and reps Edit: Wow. Just read the posts above me. Obvs not the best at pvp lol, but still stands that I'm getting more than enough medals if I'm involved in the match and trying my best Edited April 15, 2012 by Murillio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveoStudios Posted April 15, 2012 Author Share Posted April 15, 2012 Hard to get 3 medals when it is 5 Reps vs 8 imps and the imps are so over geared and over powered that you die right away so everyone in the group drops out and guess what. The wz go's on and guess who gets all the medals and wins the wzs. Thats right the imps. At least on Kass City server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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