Tadus Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 Was curious what other conceal operatives are hitting for with Hidden Strike and backstab? With a few BM pieces, I'm hitting around 3-3.3k max with HS on a squishy target + trinketing. Backstab if I break 3k I'm pretty happy. Was wondering because my Juggernaut guildy hits in the 4ks easy, and 5k vs a low expertise guy. Seems weird to me that operatives as the designated gank class hits lower than DPS juggs who have an awesome amount of utility.
Ahebish Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) HS up to 5100 BS up to 4300 Average HS - ~4000 Average BS - ~3500 I am grinding a jug now. And to be honest, and I'm sorry to say this, but Jugs are easymode in PVP. I got into a 1v1 fight the other day at level 33 on my jug against a level 49 concealment and I crushed him. Maybe because I've played op so long I know what they are going to do before they do it.... but I was shocked I beat this person so easily on my jug. Concealment requires a rediculous amount of tactical finesse to be consistantly good. Where a jug is just button mashing and following specific rotation to decimate any class. Though I will say jug skills are a lot more clunky than op skills. And I've noticed several toobar bugs/glitches with the class that are not as problematic on an op. Edited April 6, 2012 by Ahebish
Dissentus Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 I am in mostly champ gear, with BM implants/ear and belt/bracers and your range sounds about right, except on squishy targets I usually hit over 4k, highest being about 4.5k.
Tadus Posted April 6, 2012 Author Posted April 6, 2012 HS up to 5100 BS up to 4300 Average HS - ~4000 Average BS - ~3500 I am grinding a jug now. And to be honest, and I'm sorry to say this, but Jugs are easymode in PVP. I got into a 1v1 fight the other day at level 33 on my jug against a level 49 concealment and I crushed him. Maybe because I've played op so long I know what they are going to do before they do it.... but I was shocked I beat this person so easily on my jug. Concealment requires a rediculous amount of tactical finesse to be consistantly good. Where a jug is just button mashing and following specific rotation to decimate any class. Though I will say jug skills are a lot more clunky than op skills. And I've noticed several toobar bugs/glitches with the class that are not as problematic on an op. Hmm, i dont see anything near those numbers. Most of the guys im going after are in some degree of BM gear?
Robpwnz Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 (edited) Totally depends on what I am hitting. A BM sorc/sage (no shield!) w/ expertise buff, adrenal, and relic. 4.6k-5.1. The heaviest hit I have ever done was 6k on a fresh 50 12k hp sorc. It didnt record that hit because at the time he was too low. But on the same guy I hit him again for 5.9k got a screenshot of the scoreboard. This was about 2 weeks ago? Fresh 50 clothies I see 5.3-5.6k easily Average for medium or heavy armor is like 3.8-4.4k HS. Tank specced classes....you best not even try unless they have like 40% life left Back stabs 3-3.7k medium/heavy armor, 3.5-4.2k being a sorc or sage. These are all Battlemasters/Champ geared Edited April 6, 2012 by Robpwnz
Ahebish Posted April 6, 2012 Posted April 6, 2012 Totally depends on what I am hitting. A BM sorc/sage (no shield!) w/ expertise buff, adrenal, and relic. 4.6k-5.1. The heaviest hit I have ever done was 6k on a fresh 50 12k hp sorc. It didnt record that hit because at the time he was too low. But on the same guy I hit him again for 5.9k got a screenshot of the scoreboard. This was about 2 weeks ago? Fresh 50 clothies I see 5.3-5.6k easily Average for medium or heavy armor is like 3.8-4.4k HS. Tank specced classes....you best not even try unless they have like 40% life left Back stabs 3-3.7k medium/heavy armor, 3.5-4.2k being a sorc or sage. These are all Battlemasters/Champ geared Same applies for me.
skrill Posted April 7, 2012 Posted April 7, 2012 (edited) Current record is 5809 after the 2 nerfs on HS. I'm fully min/max'd rank 80. Im geared to the teeth so I don't know what playing an ungeared Op is like but honestly there really isnt any class that I CANT beat 1v1. There are some that are harder/closer than others and obviously I dont win 100% of my fights but there isnt anyone on the battlefield that I would go out of my way to avoid 1v1. In all honesty though since the medal change I don't really 1v1 farm as much. Im much more objective based with my team. Edited April 7, 2012 by skrill
Bocherel Posted April 7, 2012 Posted April 7, 2012 I am BM/3champ + 2 centurion soon to be replaced by 2 rakata gear Depending on my target I can hit from 2400-2800 on average. Using trinket and/or zerk will up HS to 3500-4000 at best. I try to stack power over the rest but I have yet to find the proper mod to do it, my goal would be 500p for 33% crit. Its sad to have such a hard time gearing an Ops because of BW poor choice of stats in the PVP gear when you know that I can go on my commando which is less geared and can crit up to 4500-5000 easily
Tadus Posted April 7, 2012 Author Posted April 7, 2012 Current record is 5809 after the 2 nerfs on HS. I'm fully min/max'd rank 80. Im geared to the teeth so I don't know what playing an ungeared Op is like but honestly there really isnt any class that I CANT beat 1v1. There are some that are harder/closer than others and obviously I dont win 100% of my fights but there isnt anyone on the battlefield that I would go out of my way to avoid 1v1. In all honesty though since the medal change I don't really 1v1 farm as much. Im much more objective based with my team. This seems to be how it is. If you are full BM geared with trinkets, stims, etc, then you can wreck. The time till then seems like conceal ops have to do way more for a kill than a lot of other classes.
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