Lina_Inverse Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) You already eat far too many aoe's as a melee dps...let's count the ways someone who isn't even bothering to target you can mess with your life as melee: -Knockback(in various form)(20-30s cd) -Flashbang(1m cd) -Roar(1m cd) -Taunt(45s cd) -Slows(various, ranging from no cd to light cd) -Root (applied mostly from knockbacks) -There's probably more, but the foam from my mouth got on my keyboard and I lost my train of thought frantically wiping it up. Throw that in with these objective maps that already favor ranged dps (huttball especially and voidstar as well) and playing melee can really become a nightmare. Rated will only get worse. So if you put it in perspective I'm not asking for much, basically only that you give melee dps a way to cleanse taunts a cd similar to the aoe taunt cd. Either that, or take it away from all non-tanks. Kthanks bye. Edited April 5, 2012 by Lina_Inverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namelless Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) They could make it so taunts can only be used when in a tanking stance. Then again, it's only a 30% reduction for 6 seconds, it's not the most major debuff in the world. Edited April 5, 2012 by namelless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jubblie Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 They should make it so that if you damage the taunter the effect goes away for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmaharg Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) Man this game is so incredibly melee friendly. 1. Save your trinket for when your resolve is full, trust me it only takes like 2 knockbacks for that to happen. After that snare and kill they can't do anything to stop it. 2. If your trinket is on cooldown, snare and just walk them down, they can't do anything to stop it. Melee dominate this game if they know what they're doing. As for taunts, everyone is effected by taunts the same way. Less QQ more skill. Edited April 5, 2012 by Nmaharg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khadroth Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) Man this game is so incredibly melee friendly. Agreed. Anything the OP listed can affect a ranged too, so combined with their higher dmg on target and great survival cooldowns I don't feel too bad for em. There's a reason everyone is FOTMing melee classes right now, and it's certainly not because they suck. Edited April 5, 2012 by Khadroth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarfunkz Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Tab, focus fire, movement strategy(getting away from people that taunt)... Yah, there are counters already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerain Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 They should make it so that if you damage the taunter the effect goes away for you. ... yeah they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astarica Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Taunt really has no counters but the most dangerous class with taunt, Assassins, tend to get focus fired anyway. I mean, it's a range 30 resource free instant cast ability off GCD. A counter would be something that can stop taunt that uses no resources and it doesn't exist. Locating the person who taunted you is a significant resource usage (you got to find the guy, and he probably isn't the guy you want to be attacking in the first place). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacer Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Man this game is so incredibly melee friendly. 1. Save your trinket for when your resolve is full, trust me it only takes like 2 knockbacks for that to happen. After that snare and kill they can't do anything to stop it. 2. If your trinket is on cooldown, snare and just walk them down, they can't do anything to stop it. Melee dominate this game if they know what they're doing. As for taunts, everyone is effected by taunts the same way. Less QQ more skill. Idk about you but when I use my Unleash ( trinket as you call it ... WoW players...) it clears my resolve bar... I can get stunned right after I use it... Happens allll the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidJustice Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 (edited) Yea remove Juggernauts and Guardians from the game, their uber dps and heavy armor are so OP anyway, just have all of them moved to something more balanced like Shadow/Assasin Tanks... Come on BW, lets get these OP classes under control. Please also nerf OPs and Scounderals again for fun! Lets concentrate on buffing up those poor Sorc's and BH's !!! also please remove leap completely in pvp, and lightsabers!!!!! it's not like tanks in this game aren't ready to unsub in mass or anything. Edited April 5, 2012 by VoidJustice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celebrus Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 You know what melee classes really need? A ******** filter. That way the rest of us don't have to see posts like this anymore. *goes back to leveling his sentinel* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmaharg Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Idk about you but when I use my Unleash ( trinket as you call it ... WoW players...) it clears my resolve bar... I can get stunned right after I use it... Happens allll the time. Thats just not true. I know for a 100% fact it doesn't clear resolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dacer Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Thats just not true. I know for a 100% fact it doesn't clear resolve. I just tested it... Literally 30 seconds ago. I hit unleash and my full resolve bar disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainInsano Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Taunt should be limited to tank stances only. Too many classes/specs have the potential to chain taunts and I see no reason why a Deception Assassin, for example, should be able to taunt but a Marauder can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varicite Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 You already eat far too many aoe's as a melee dps...let's count the ways someone who isn't even bothering to target you can mess with your life as melee: -Knockback(in various form)(20-30s cd) -Flashbang(1m cd) -Roar(1m cd) -Taunt(45s cd) -Slows(various, ranging from no cd to light cd) -Root (applied mostly from knockbacks) -There's probably more, but the foam from my mouth got on my keyboard and I lost my train of thought frantically wiping it up. Throw that in with these objective maps that already favor ranged dps (huttball especially and voidstar as well) and playing melee can really become a nightmare. Rated will only get worse. So if you put it in perspective I'm not asking for much, basically only that you give melee dps a way to cleanse taunts a cd similar to the aoe taunt cd. Either that, or take it away from all non-tanks. Kthanks bye. I'm curious after looking at the list that you just made, what made you decide to go w/ Taunts to nerf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varicite Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 They could make it so taunts can only be used when in a tanking stance. Then again, it's only a 30% reduction for 6 seconds, it's not the most major debuff in the world. So basically every dps spec'd tank AC would lose access to their AC's utility. I'd be fine w/ this if we make it so that only 31-point spec'd healers could heal their teammates, and raised the dps of all spec'd dps to the level of Mara/Sniper. Then this might be a balanced idea. : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryowolf Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I just tested it... Literally 30 seconds ago. I hit unleash and my full resolve bar disappeared. Could you please post a short video of this happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lina_Inverse Posted April 5, 2012 Author Share Posted April 5, 2012 I'm curious after looking at the list that you just made, what made you decide to go w/ Taunts to nerf? Because of what I listed, taunts are the only thing without a reasonable counter. They're all annoying, but taunt has no DR. The bigger issue is really how many taunts there are out there, and how mindless it is to just hit it in a group of melee and prevent 10k damage easily (as a dps). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vimm Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Could you please post a short video of this happening? Nope, take his word for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarfunkz Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Nope, take his word for it! geerzorz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyWampa Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Always thought that having a taunt switch the taunted player's target to the taunter would be an interesting mechanic. Fire off the taunt and the target of the taunt has the taunter as target for {X} time or Taunt is a channeled effect that forces the target switch for the duration of the taunt channel. Count damage dealt to the taunter during the taunt effect by the taunted target as protection damage is also a possibility. Just saying there are other means to execute the concept of a taunt than ability A nerfs damage by X on target B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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