Vlaxitov Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Some are unhealthily fat, yes. Some are simply large. As shown in the myriad screenshots I posted, male body type 4 is not fat. You posted pics of your characters bust, not the mid section. Theres alot of people in the world who are muscular and fat at the same time. The fat male bodytype in this game is one of those people, complete with fat rolls on the back of his neck. You're just being obstainant for the sake of argument. Take care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmolke Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 She is a bit thick, but she is still in better shape than the game's demographic How is that the game's fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaJ Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 You posted pics of your characters bust, not the mid section. Theres alot of people in the world who are muscular and fat at the same time. The fat male bodytype in this game is one of those people, complete with fat rolls on the back of his neck. You're just being obstainant for the sake of argument. Take care. I posted two full body pictures as well. If you're not paying attention to the discussion, opt to not participate further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Dunno about anyone else but i rarly see a fat person in the military or a fighter who is fat unless you class sumos. Big yes but not fat. Edited March 26, 2012 by Shingara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlaxitov Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) I posted two full body pictures as well. If you're not paying attention to the discussion, opt to not participate further. Sorry I didn't scan the whole thread tough guy. Yeah I looked at your second set of pics. Thats what you call muscular and fat, E. Honda fat. Dude has a 60 inch waist of pure muscle, lol. Now what about the back of the neck fat roll? Yeah, like l said and how about you opt to bite me. Edited March 26, 2012 by Vlaxitov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vengeful_Deity Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I thought this was obvious: C2-N2 reduced the crew's caloric intake. Some of them were growing a bit thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nullermand Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I thought this was obvious: C2-N2 reduced the crew's caloric intake. Some of them were growing a bit thick. I loled... dunno why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TZHX Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Coming late to the discussion... But she wants to play a Twi'lek, and is upset that there isn't a body type that meets her reality to the point of refusing to play? Does the girl actually have lek`ku? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pubsam Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Let it never be said I only go halfway in proving someone wrong on the internet. Here is a full body back picture. Here is a full body front picture. Clear abdominal muscle definition. Legs like tree trunks, don't even have the thighs touching. The man is shredded in every sense of the word. Even his butt is tight. Yes, male body type 4 is so objectively not fat, I never see them with names like McBacon. Put his clothes back on, ignore the painted on abs. Dude looks fat. And way fatter proportionally than the barely pleasantly plump female body type 4. Even if you'd like to persist in you're inane, 'He's not supposed to look fat, just muscular,' reasoning, acknowledge that body type 4 is not proportional between the sexes. 1 and 2 certainly are, and even 3 gives us an abnormally tall and sturdily built gal. But girl 4 compared to guy 4, let's not even pretend there's parity here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Moonshadow Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) The reason there are no fat female body types is because then men would roll one and never get anything done because they'd be too busy watching them stand there. Big girls are hot. Edited March 26, 2012 by Darth_Moonshadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GorillaJ Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Yes, male body type 4 is so objectively not fat, I never see them with names like McBacon. What people choose to name their toons is wholly irrelevant to what that toon actually is. I can name body type 1 Biff FistSteak McHuge Beefchunks, Esquire. It won't make him meaty. Put his clothes back on, ignore the painted on abs. Dude looks fat. And way fatter proportionally than the barely pleasantly plump female body type 4. "No, he's totally fat if you hide his muscular definition and obscure him behind wide clothes." Even if you'd like to persist in you're inane, 'He's not supposed to look fat, just muscular,' reasoning, acknowledge that body type 4 is not proportional between the sexes. 1 and 2 certainly are, and even 3 gives us an abnormally tall and sturdily built gal. But girl 4 compared to guy 4, let's not even pretend there's parity here! I do not believe you know what inane is. I'm also suspicious you aren't sure what reasoning means, as the word reason itself seems liable to escape you. I have shown he is muscular. As for the parity between male 4 and female 4, no, it doesn't exist. 4 is curvy when it should be brawny for the ladies. A woman will not achieve the same muscle mass or density as a man, and so female 4 should never be the same as male 4, but they could definitely make her big female lifter build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pubsam Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 What people choose to name their toons is wholly irrelevant to what that toon actually is. I can name body type 1 Biff FistSteak McHuge Beefchunks, Esquire. It won't make him meaty. No, I think people name body type 4 "McBeef" because he looks fat. Naming body type 1 "McBeef" is funny because he's not fat at all. Like naming body type 4 "Stickboy" is funny. Because he's really fat. Again, as I said, what 4's actual % of body fat is is irrelevant. The actual issue is that men get to choose a model that is largely considered gross and unattractive (even if that's all muscle, the people that prefer that are rare), while women don't get that choice. I'm not totally into really obese female models being introduced, because seeing one godawful joke character made by some ***** would be... a little bit more annoying than seeing those McBeefs I mentioned. But the OP's point is valid... men get to be gross and horrifying, and women can be slightly hippy at worst. It's a rare MMO that let's the obese man play a toon that looks vaguely like him, if I were an obese woman I'd be miffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GorillaJ Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 No, I think people name body type 4 "McBeef" because he looks fat. Naming body type 1 "McBeef" is funny because he's not fat at all. Like naming body type 4 "Stickboy" is funny. Because he's really fat. Except, of course, he isn't. Again, as I said, what 4's actual % of body fat is is irrelevant. The actual issue is that men get to choose a model that is largely considered gross and unattractive (even if that's all muscle, the people that prefer that are rare), while women don't get that choice. If the issue is that men can make unattractive toons and women can't, it should not be phrased as a weight issue, as that's not the issue at all. This, however, was introduced as a weight one. Neither males nor females can be fat. I agree women could be bulkier -- there are a lot of women athletes that Bioware could draw inspiration from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackavaar Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I think it's like this because in a game you are meant to imagine your ideal self, not your real self as the hero in the game. And the general consensus is that everybody's ideal self is movie star perfect. That is just my theory though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormey Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Fat females don't fit standard comic book bodytypes, which is what TOR uses. Male 4 isn't fat either, it doesn't actually have a real world analogue since it's the Hulk/Thing/Juggernaut bodytype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valens_Andorius Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Pear shape (Type 4) is fat. IDC how you slice it, if its thicker at the waist than the chest its OBESE. Pretty sure body type 4 is like 40% BMI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morthaur Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 It's because you're a hero. You can't go around saving the universe if you have to take a Rascal Scooter from quest to quest since you can't make it running there without having a stroke. I go from quest to quest on my hoverbike.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightspirit Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Fat females don't fit standard comic book bodytypes, which is what TOR uses. Neither do women with spines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormey Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Neither do women with spines. Liefeld has no time for little things like basic Human anatomy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nullermand Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Im Norwegian... google Trine Hattestad. Our world champ javelin thrower. Now thats exactly like bodytype 4 if u ask me. So ya... guess what Im saying is OK male bodytype 4 is still athletic in some ways, well so are the womens bodytypes. So whats the fuss. Theres really no difference... EDIT: Off topic but fun fact... I was her neighbour for 4 years ^^ Often met in the woods when she was running and I was walking the dog. Hell of a chick tbh. Edited March 26, 2012 by Nullermand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt_Simple Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Pear shape (Type 4) is fat. IDC how you slice it, if its thicker at the waist than the chest its OBESE. Pretty sure body type 4 is like 40% BMI As much as this post has nothing to do with Star Wars, mine is going to be even worse. But, I have to respond to this. First, BMI is a number, not a percent. I'm going to assume you meant 40% body fat, rather than BMI. 40% body fat is on the upper end of overweight, verging into obese, for most women. Body Type 4, by contrast, is a BMI of around 22, which is right smack dab in the middle of normal. At least, she would be if she wasn't still rather muscular, which puts her BMI at around 25 (which goes to show how useless BMI really is). Second, obesity has nothing to do with body shape. Calling a woman with a pear shape automatically obese is calling Beyonce and Jennifer Lopez obese, and it's ignorance. All of that said, "fat" really should have no presence in this game--we play athletes who fight wars for a living. Fat men and women running around looks silly. And that's fine, because neither gender's body type 4 is fat in any way--male body type 4 is an Olympic power lifter (well, more like your average strongman, because olympic powerlifters cannot impede their own mobility that much) and female body type 4 is just the closest thing we have to a "real woman." Hell, Christina Hendricks is bigger than body type 4, and she is probably the hottest woman on the planet, even to people in Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotDonnaReed Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Pear shape (Type 4) is fat. IDC how you slice it, if its thicker at the waist than the chest its OBESE. Pretty sure body type 4 is like 40% BMI LOL agreed. The male body type 4 can't even see his toes. I don't care what you want to call it (chubby, husky, bulky, whatever), to me that's fat. I just want the female body type 4 to be equally "bulky" and right now she isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramyth Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I would play male body type 2 if he was taller.... but he's so short. (random) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipodes Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Even if it were real, this is an extremely rare case as I doubt most overweight females would want to choose an overweight character. Same reason that most video games protagonists are a lot cooler than the people that play them. The options for an obese female model would be abused (people making joke characters) more than those that seriously prefer that model. Edited March 27, 2012 by Sireene rude - PM'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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