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This is the top 10 reasons why there is a Largge Decline in subscriptions already...

 

1. The game tunnels you thru levels and forces your path instead of giving the player abilty to roam and explore..one of the most important aspects of players intrest in swtor was to explore the star wars universe. People hate the Maze and Overuse of Instances. There is No Free Roam Planets.

 

2. No player Housing or area to collect and store trophy's. The ship could be a player housing type system but they didnt put a system to put stuff in there and personalize..Mistake BW..Big One. They also could of used a lvl of fleet for Apts..or an

area of a planet around the missing social hubs.....

 

3. Social Aspect of an MMO is Missing from the game. There are no social hangouts in the game. The Fleet is the only place to meet other players pretty much. The Fleet is just a vendor hub and a ship docking area. It has no Music Stage or interactive music instruments to play, so no one dances..theres no dance floor..theres no games, no dual area, no jukebox that everyone can hear with actual decent music, no fun anything in fleet. Also the chat and channel system is just too crippled. You cant interact with anyone barely..You cannot bind emotes to hotkeys because of the absence of a basic macro system. Its too hard to RP using emotes and actions and such..they really dont promote and social activity except heroics and flashpoints, but even that is fail and let me tell you why...

 

4. No Dungeon Finder makes finding a group for heroics or flashpoints SUCK. Who likes waiting days to find a group. Especially if your on a ...

 

5. Dead or Low Population Servers. They made too many servers for expected sales, and didnt think they would lose such a massive amount of subscriptions. now at this point in the game they dont want to admit it, so they are avoiding addressing the problem. Pretty much resolving in players not having fun because they cant get a group together and pretty much have to play solo. Wich isnt MMO? Right? But Low Pop servers also cause

 

6. Hard to get crafted gear. The absence of an ORDER Request System pretty much makes someone playing on a low pop server have a really low chance to find someone to make the stuff they need. also...

 

7. Crafting also is a dissapointment for Crafter Type Players...they pretty much are left with a gimped system where they cant even craft there own stuff and thats what they like to do.. BW alienated the Crafter Type players using there crafting system. Its about half of what it needs to be.

 

8. Loot sucks..Who wants to invest tons of time playing a game that doesnt feel very epic or fun when you complete a flashpoint or heroic etc..and the gear feels pretty much the same with a diffrent skin..The variants of the graphics are many..but where is the imbued stuff with added procs..where is the diffrence other than a cpl of points? That is demoralizing..where is the special effects and glowy flashy epic gear? The first several tiers have NONE. Also there isnt much of a way to have anything unique. There isnt any rarity to anything but clicking a button and hoping your companion gets a purple once in a while...There are no rare spawns or nothing to camp. No excitement in loot or gear or items honestly...except the droids/pets...but they gimped that too..only one allowed at a time..

 

9. No Sense of Community...The Galactic Civil War Feel of Star Wars is Missing. Where are the PLAYER EVENTS? Why isnt there a galactic civil war breakout once in awhile flashing global messages to players to goto X to participate? Because there arent any player to player trades instead people use the marketplace. BW gimped the player community forums. No one wants to read thru other server's bussiness while trying find events or trade info. BW gives no incentive to use the server forum at all. The PVP community is the only interaction with other players. And on Low Pop Servers there is no equality or fairness to teams. The servers are really unbalanced as well, Some are 1 Republic to 6 Imperials. Republic is going to need a new class or 2 to change this...So no Dev In Game Events and also no Player In Game Events because they didnt give anything to do in this game except Quests...right? Makes me sad..really sad...

 

10. In Game Support lacks timely responce and care. I will however vouch for phone support was helpful and curteous. Although its been a couple weeks and still no resolution for the probelm. So there not timely either...Were sick to death of unhelpful responses. If your gonna charge a premium in the day and age of F2P MMO's then you need to adhere to a few things.

a. Provide Customer Service worth paying $15 a month for. Be helpful and fast. Dont respond with useless information.

b. Listen to the Player Base. We know what we want to play, and what were willing to pay for. When we say add social activity in to the game, do it. Dont put our first place issue last.

 

Bioware basically delivered a 1 player game with server access for multiplayer. But Not an MMO

 

Please Respond and vote what numbers you agree with, and discuss...I want to give Bioware a little insight and have a chance to fix the issues that are important to us!

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agree with alot of this, if you're resourceful though you can still get hardmode groups almost all of the times of the day, sometimes theres not enough healers/tanks on.. but.. most of the time. You could take a poll of the 50's on Jung ma and ask em how many of em were spammed by me looking for people to run flashpoints heh. The who list is a viable option that not that many people seem to use.. It sucks having to type /who, /who 50 guardian and ask all them till someone says yes, or sage or commando or vanguard.. or.. shadow.. forgot them hah.. but ya, spamming the who list will work..

 

Oh, but on that note, don't take that as me not wanting an lfg tool. Because I most definitely do. lfg plus a good friends list = happy hard moding.

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This is the top 10 reasons why there is a Largge Decline in subscriptions already...

 

1. The game tunnels you thru levels and forces your path instead of giving the player abilty to roam and explore..one of the most important aspects of players intrest in swtor was to explore the star wars universe. People hate the Maze and Overuse of Instances. There is No Free Roam Planets.

 

2. No player Housing or area to collect and store trophy's. The ship could be a player housing type system but they didnt put a system to put stuff in there and personalize..Mistake BW..Big One. They also could of used a lvl of fleet for Apts..or an

area of a planet around the missing social hubs.....

 

3. Social Aspect of an MMO is Missing from the game. There are no social hangouts in the game. The Fleet is the only place to meet other players pretty much. The Fleet is just a vendor hub and a ship docking area. It has no Music Stage or interactive music instruments to play, so no one dances..theres no dance floor..theres no games, no dual area, no jukebox that everyone can hear with actual decent music, no fun anything in fleet. Also the chat and channel system is just too crippled. You cant interact with anyone barely..You cannot bind emotes to hotkeys because of the absence of a basic macro system. Its too hard to RP using emotes and actions and such..they really dont promote and social activity except heroics and flashpoints, but even that is fail and let me tell you why...

 

4. No Dungeon Finder makes finding a group for heroics or flashpoints SUCK. Who likes waiting days to find a group. Especially if your on a ...

 

5. Dead or Low Population Servers. They made too many servers for expected sales, and didnt think they would lose such a massive amount of subscriptions. now at this point in the game they dont want to admit it, so they are avoiding addressing the problem. Pretty much resolving in players not having fun because they cant get a group together and pretty much have to play solo. Wich isnt MMO? Right? But Low Pop servers also cause

 

6. Hard to get crafted gear. The absence of an ORDER Request System pretty much makes someone playing on a low pop server have a really low chance to find someone to make the stuff they need. also...

 

7. Crafting also is a dissapointment for Crafter Type Players...they pretty much are left with a gimped system where they cant even craft there own stuff and thats what they like to do.. BW alienated the Crafter Type players using there crafting system. Its about half of what it needs to be.

 

8. Loot sucks..Who wants to invest tons of time playing a game that doesnt feel very epic or fun when you complete a flashpoint or heroic etc..and the gear feels pretty much the same with a diffrent skin..The variants of the graphics are many..but where is the imbued stuff with added procs..where is the diffrence other than a cpl of points? That is demoralizing..where is the special effects and glowy flashy epic gear? The first several tiers have NONE. Also there isnt much of a way to have anything unique. There isnt any rarity to anything but clicking a button and hoping your companion gets a purple once in a while...There are no rare spawns or nothing to camp. No excitement in loot or gear or items honestly...except the droids/pets...but they gimped that too..only one allowed at a time..

 

9. No Sense of Community...The Galactic Civil War Feel of Star Wars is Missing. Where are the PLAYER EVENTS? Why isnt there a galactic civil war breakout once in awhile flashing global messages to players to goto X to participate? Because there arent any player to player trades instead people use the marketplace. BW gimped the player community forums. No one wants to read thru other server's bussiness while trying find events or trade info. BW gives no incentive to use the server forum at all. The PVP community is the only interaction with other players. And on Low Pop Servers there is no equality or fairness to teams. The servers are really unbalanced as well, Some are 1 Republic to 6 Imperials. Republic is going to need a new class or 2 to change this...So no Dev In Game Events and also no Player In Game Events because they didnt give anything to do in this game except Quests...right? Makes me sad..really sad...

 

10. In Game Support lacks timely responce and care. I will however vouch for phone support was helpful and curteous. Although its been a couple weeks and still no resolution for the probelm. So there not timely either...Were sick to death of unhelpful responses. If your gonna charge a premium in the day and age of F2P MMO's then you need to adhere to a few things.

a. Provide Customer Service worth paying $15 a month for. Be helpful and fast. Dont respond with useless information.

b. Listen to the Player Base. We know what we want to play, and what were willing to pay for. When we say add social activity in to the game, do it. Dont put our first place issue last.

 

Bioware basically delivered a 1 player game with server access for multiplayer. But Not an MMO

 

Please Respond and vote what numbers you agree with, and discuss...I want to give Bioware a little insight and have a chance to fix the issues that are important to us!

 

Oh, oh... I got one.

 

How about the fact that their end game is terrible and the most important patch (1.2) centers around RP and "toys"?

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Ya they pretty much ignore what the core of the MMO genre is, the end game. Ya the lvling experience was fine the first time around but people play MMO's to progress through tough end game content, competitive pvp and massive world events to participate in, which they achieved none.

 

It's really hard for anyone to defend this game as being successful from a quality point of view due to the lack of actual realistic thought put into the game, instead of the we need moar orbital stations. The best way to keep subs is to make a superb end game content that has the ability to evolve, not superb 1-49 content that is static and boring after your 3rd alt.

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How about the fact that there hasn't been a huge subscriber decline.

 

But, a troll can dream.

 

No..It's true...the only troll here is you.

 

Wer are one the largest guilds out there and a significant number of players have left, along with several posts of people leaving and why here on official forums, and the countless threads about people having issues polaying heroics and flashpoints because of low population servers...the proof is everywhere...and I also have problems due to a low pop server that was once decently populated

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Hey folks,

 

We do thank people for taking the time out to post about issues and concerns about the game. We do read it, regardless of whether it is positive or negative.

 

That being said, feedback about specific issues should whenever possible be placed into the proper subforum. For example, there are existing threads in the Suggestion Box forum where discussions about some of these concerns are being had:

http://www.swtor.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=349

 

In addition to that, there's already a thread discussing subscriptions here:

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=353705

 

We'll be closing this thread, but do encourage folks to post constructive feedback about the game in future threads. Thanks for your understanding!

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