itsmymillertime Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 I just checked the pts server and notice we can still exchange mercenary comms for warzone comms yet posts in the forums say that mercenary comms are useless. Am I missing something or are they?
Rambeast Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 The problem is, they traded 3 to 1 to get merc comms. In order to trade back, they have to trade down again. The tradein treadmill is what they don't like, even though with the new volume of comms output will make that process null and void. Some people are hoarders, some are smart and spend them when they can.
Mirthadrond Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 1: when 1.2 hits, you can only buy Stims and Medpacks with them, at: 20/30. 2: when 1.2 hits, no dev notes indicating they intend to change the exchange rate. 3: #2 means = Mercs have an exchange rate of 6:1. You spend 3 War zone comms to buy 1 merc, and spend 3 merc to buy 1 war zone. 4: You will only use warzone comms once 1.2 hits. Spend your 200 / 200 merc/war now and buy a bag. The rest.. ?? Well.. I guess you can keep them as a memento of how much bioware loves you.
Darthshnooky Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 They are not technically useless. They are essentially useless. Someone with a lot of time and WZ comms to do nothing with could get some Merc ones as long as they still end up with 1000 WZ by 1.2 patch day and they will get some benefit for turning those Merc ones back into WZ, but it's mostly just not worth it. Basically every Merc comm is worth 1/9 of a WZ Comm (start with 30 WZ, turn it into 10 Merc; do that 3 times for 30 Merc, then turn 'em back into 10 WZ comms = gj)... so take that for what it's worth.
Gnugthreeonefive Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Mercs have an exchange rate of 6:1. You spend 3 War zone comms to buy 1 merc, and spend 3 merc to buy 1 war zone. Stay in school.
bzImage Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Merc comms will be useless in 1.2, though this is not entirely true, if you wish to suffer a double tax you can convert regular to merc then when 1.2 comes out you can convert them back to normal. Needless to say the new gears are EXPENSIVE and commendation rewards regardless of your performance in pvp are capped to 30-35 should your team lose. I am watching people quit warzones on the test server left and right, people who are good dps, or actual vital members of the team because there is simply no incentive for them to play with such a low return for their time and effort, while their staying would have not saw the team to victory, in the current live servers their efforts would have been rewarded none the less.
bzImage Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Merc comms will be useless in 1.2, though this is not entirely true, if you wish to suffer a double tax you can convert regular to merc then when 1.2 comes out you can convert them back to normal. Needless to say the new gears are EXPENSIVE and commendation rewards regardless of your performance in pvp are capped to 30-35 should your team lose. I am watching people quit warzones on the test server left and right, people who are good dps, or actual vital members of the team because there is simply no incentive for them to play with such a low return for their time and effort, while their staying would have not saw the team to victory, in the current live servers their efforts would have been rewarded none the less. Edit: My team just won a voidstar warzone in PTS, I earned 7 medals, I only got 63 commendations for my contribution.
itsmymillertime Posted March 25, 2012 Author Posted March 25, 2012 ok so its still the 9 to 1 ratio then. spend 90 warzone to get 30 mercenary spend 30 mercenary to get 10 warzone 90 to begin 10 at end 9:1
mordredz Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 1: when 1.2 hits, you can only buy Stims and Medpacks with them, at: 20/30. 2: when 1.2 hits, no dev notes indicating they intend to change the exchange rate. 3: #2 means = Mercs have an exchange rate of 6:1. You spend 3 War zone comms to buy 1 merc, and spend 3 merc to buy 1 war zone. 4: You will only use warzone comms once 1.2 hits. Spend your 200 / 200 merc/war now and buy a bag. The rest.. ?? Well.. I guess you can keep them as a memento of how much bioware loves you. Well BW could just reset them all with the patch like every other MMO does? but no instead there giving you a way to semi save and spend them, yet ppl still complain like unsatisfied children...
gofortheko Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Im not seeing the big issue here? The patch isnt live and wont be for several weeks. If you have merc coms, save up 1000/1000 and buy a piece of BM gear. If you have full BM gear, I dont see why you bothered to save up merc coms. I swear people will cry about everything, even if its a non issue. Use em up, end of story, you have plenty of time.
Ilintar Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Im not seeing the big issue here? The patch isnt live and wont be for several weeks. If you have merc coms, save up 1000/1000 and buy a piece of BM gear. If you have full BM gear, I dont see why you bothered to save up merc coms. I swear people will cry about everything, even if its a non issue. Use em up, end of story, you have plenty of time. This.
Botho Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 I was thinking of spending em on the Implants/earpiece. I mean they cost 200/200 atm and there pretty good stat wise, one thing i wonder tho is,... Is the valour rank requirment gone for wearing em? im only rank 38 atm and I dunno if i'll ever get to rank 60 lol.
Cheeseblaster Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) I think they are useless to you unless you want to save up for the 1k/1k Centurion gear goes bye-bye in 1.2 and Champ gear gets knocked down to blue... So if you can save to 1k/1k and just buy BM gear. Skip the soon to be obsolete Centurion and the soon to be nerfed Champ. But if you are not going to go for the BM with them then yes, Mercs are useless to you. Edited March 26, 2012 by Cheeseblaster
Smashbrother Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 I was thinking of spending em on the Implants/earpiece. I mean they cost 200/200 atm and there pretty good stat wise, one thing i wonder tho is,... Is the valour rank requirment gone for wearing em? im only rank 38 atm and I dunno if i'll ever get to rank 60 lol. They valor req is gone in 1.2. So yes you want to save up at least 600/600 for when 1.2 hits so you can buy the ear and two pieces. Expertise is king in 1.2.
ShadowOfVey Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Im not seeing the big issue here? The patch isnt live and wont be for several weeks. If you have merc coms, save up 1000/1000 and buy a piece of BM gear. If you have full BM gear, I dont see why you bothered to save up merc coms. I swear people will cry about everything, even if its a non issue. Use em up, end of story, you have plenty of time. Agree. Also there isn't really much to "prepare for" as far as saving up something for 1.2. If you happen to be close to 1000 wz comms on your character right when the patch goes in, it couldn't hurt...but that's a few hours of WZs and not really a big deal. Doing 1000/1000 so that you can convert 1000 merc tokens (which do take quite a while to farm up) to 330 wz tokens which is 3-4 warzones...kinda silly
Ehlin Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Eh, my issue is that the valor requirement to buy the gear is still on there and I'm not able to purchase them a head of time. Kinda sucks, but I'm not surprised. I wish I could purchase then wait till my valor catches up to use.
Philosomanic Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Im not seeing the big issue here? The patch isnt live and wont be for several weeks. If you have merc coms, save up 1000/1000 and buy a piece of BM gear. If you have full BM gear, I dont see why you bothered to save up merc coms. I swear people will cry about everything, even if its a non issue. Use em up, end of story, you have plenty of time. I have a level 47 character right now. I PvP enough on him that I'm constantly capped on valor rank. I've been turning my warzone commendations into merc commendations to avoid hitting the cap, and this is after I got a full set of lvl 40 PvP gear for myself and my companion, as well as lvl 46 weapons for us both. I'm up to ~600 merc commendations now, and nothing worthwhile to spend them on. I'm frantically trying to hit 50 before 1.2 hits so I can get a bunch of champ bags, or maybe a BM commendation. But if I don't make it in time, I'm going to be incredibly upset. And I have a great chance of making it. I know other people that are levelling in large part from PvP and have had 1k merc commendations saved up since their 30s. I guarantee some of them are going to be hit hard by this, since merc commendations are good for nothing (but avoiding the WZ commendation cap) until lvl 50.
bzImage Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 I'm frantically trying to hit 50 before 1.2 hits so I can get a bunch of champ bags, or maybe a BM commendation. But if I don't make it in time, I'm going to be incredibly upset. And I have a great chance of making it. I know other people that are levelling in large part from PvP and have had 1k merc commendations saved up since their 30s. I guarantee some of them are going to be hit hard by this, since merc commendations are good for nothing (but avoiding the WZ commendation cap) until lvl 50. This is the exact reason why there is complaints and why I will support those complaints, people in full BM do not care about you and me, now we have to run around in the horrendously ugly buy-able pvp gear just to have any hope to survive level 50 pvp and get our pathetic 30 commendations per losing match, while the BM elitists get to move their mods to better looking customs. Not to mention they obtained their gear *far* more easily than anyone will in 1.2 thanks to the previous mentioned commendation nerfs.
kantnerfme Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 This is the exact reason why there is complaints and why I will support those complaints, people in full BM do not care about you and me, now we have to run around in the horrendously ugly buy-able pvp gear just to have any hope to survive level 50 pvp and get our pathetic 30 commendations per losing match, while the BM elitists get to move their mods to better looking customs. Not to mention they obtained their gear *far* more easily than anyone will in 1.2 thanks to the previous mentioned commendation nerfs. i'm still on my incompleted BM lacks 2 items still last month bags only gave champion coms. trust me no one earned it easy as you claim. 2 months now and i can't complete my BM gear.
Polebreaker Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Doing 1000/1000 so that you can convert 1000 merc tokens (which do take quite a while to farm up) to 330 wz tokens which is 3-4 warzones...kinda silly Well, 111 wz tokens... Also, even if comms come in at 60% of the current rate, call it 2000 wz comms on the outside for a visible piece... Compared to NOW which is 2bm comms aka 8000 wz comms, and it WILL be easier to get BM gear come 1.2. Regardless, this exchange back thing is bs no matter how you anyone wants to spin it. ESPECIALLY because a lot of people dont even know that their merc comms will be useless in 2-3 weeks, and are still saving them up for when they are 50. It's not like everyone comes to these forums, nor is it like BW put a big sign on the patcher saying SPEND ALL YOUR COMMS NOW WE'RE ABOUT TO NERF THEM TO POINTLESSNESS.
Gnugthreeonefive Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) Well, 111 wz tokens... Christ. How hard can simple math be? If you have 1000 merc tokens already, you can convert them to 330 WZ (not 333, either). If you have no merc tokens and want to save for 1.2, then yes, you need 3000 wz to get 1000 merc to then get your 330 wz back, or 9 to 1. Edited March 26, 2012 by Gnugthreeonefive
Botho Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Am I right in saying, existing champ gear you have already wont change, it just won't be avilible in its current form anymore?
Ancaglon Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Christ. How hard can simple math be? If you have 1000 merc tokens already, you can convert them to 330 WZ (not 333, either). If you have no merc tokens and want to save for 1.2, then yes, you need 3000 wz to get 1000 merc to then get your 330 wz back, or 9 to 1. Seems you fail too Although the conversions are listed as per 10, using the slider you can buy exactly the number you want at 3:1 -- so yes, 1000 merc comms => 333 wz comms, and vice versa. However, GIVEN that there is no other way to get Merc comms in-game now than converting WZ comms, Bioware should allow people to reverse this at the same rate they were bought, at least for a limited time.
me_unknown Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 3: #2 means = Mercs have an exchange rate of 6:1. You spend 3 War zone comms to buy 1 merc, and spend 3 merc to buy 1 war zone. you might want to rethink your math
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