Teirdome Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) What's wrong with a smuggler being able to swap out Dirty Kick for Force Choke balance-wise? They're both stuns, and it lets the smuggler be more unique. I'm guessing these new skills will only be PvE anyways, like the abilities you can use on non-lucent, non-elite mobs. I'm also looking forward to playing a Pureblood Sentinel who struggles between light and dark side. Being encouraged to not just min/max light/dark is awesome. Edited March 5, 2012 by Teirdome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NermalDetonator Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Yes full on puke if non force wielding classes can use force powers That's basically pre-Degobah Luke. Force sensitive, uses a blaster for the most part. Knows a few force tricks. I see no real problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knewt Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Ok, this patch looks awesome... but, I do not like the ability thing.... AT ALL. If they added it as a social, fine. But a Smuggler Force Choking? Ugh. If they give out force powers to non-force toons....jumping the shark comes to mind. Anyhow, giving out class defining abilities is a quick way for me to leave this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khincaid Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 So, when if your last month up? Not soon enough....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewser Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Leveling alts does help. I am sitting on 14 leg points now running a lvl 50/ 45 PvP rank, 30 Gunslinger 10 PvP rank and a 27 Vanguard. Leveling the alts is a great way to make Legacy points. But not the only way, no. I have a 50 and 3 alts in the 30s. The point I was making that if instead of doing the alts, I spent the same time on my 50 - I would be way higher than legacy 22. You can accrue it much faster with high level content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaconjc Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 SWTOR launched with a basic template filled in. That was it. You could go out, download 50 MMORPG's F2P, B2P, P2P and all of them would have more features than SWTOR has. You know what it feels like? It feels like this game's multiplayer/features were decided upon in 2005. By the time GW2 will drop, SWTOR will be so far behind in features, it'll be collecting dust until EA pushes it F2P with a B2W cash shop. Games done. They made horrible, horrible decisions ala Warhammer, and they'll suffer for it, again. That's the saddest part. Learn from your mistakes, and grow. They learnt nothing from Warhammer. They better hope no private servers starts popping up. You'll see an Aion type situation then (Private server had more players than Official NA ones). Only SWTOR is less complex than Aion, so a private server would probably have the entire game working within 6 months. Bye... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunzo Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 translated: no. OH right sorry. Having standards for games in 2012 = stupid. My mistake, I'm supposed to keep remembering how WoW was 8 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamuro Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I like it ... but hope that it's only a swap between animations and not actually allows you to buy force choke for example I ll definitly start to grind my alts and dailies again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
va_wanderer Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Tons of that stuff should have been in the game already, like the new legacy system, the UI mods, the appearance mod. but if your happy with them throwing you things that should already be in the game and telling you to wait till april thats fine I will keep laughing at the lack of content the game launched with and the fact people are happy its being added slowly over the course of years You do realize this game has Bioware Syndrome- released before the devs sensibly would have wanted it to be. Like KOTOR 2. Their corporate masters wanted the Christmas-time sales more than a fully finished product. I expected that going in, and I'm enjoying what I'm seeing come along now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirRobin Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Sweet all the stuff that should have been in launch! Yay! Yep... Hopefully its not too late. "Come on BioWare, old buddy, don't let me down." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonezmccoy Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 It's missing one key feature... My Sorceror goes around murdering crippled old men. He orders his pet Deshade to eat people. He Force-shocks his own crew. In general, he puts up with absolutely zero shab from anyone. In spite of all that, somehow I cann't get rid of that bucket of bolts on my ship that kisses my arse every time I pass by. I can't kill it, and I guess that's fine... but can I please at least shock it into silence with a new /silencedroid command? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azumio Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You do realize this game has Bioware Syndrome- released before the devs sensibly would have wanted it to be. Like KOTOR 2. Their corporate masters wanted the Christmas-time sales more than a fully finished product. I expected that going in, and I'm enjoying what I'm seeing come along now. Bioware didn't do KOTOR 2 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neulwen Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Just because you hate it doesn't mean everyone else does. They're trying to make this to where the majority of the players enjoy the Legacy System... Lore-wise, these changes are near absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaconjc Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You do realize this game has Bioware Syndrome- released before the devs sensibly would have wanted it to be. Like KOTOR 2. Their corporate masters wanted the Christmas-time sales more than a fully finished product. I expected that going in, and I'm enjoying what I'm seeing come along now. let me let you in on a little secret.....now don't tell anyone else...but...Bioware did not make KOTOR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knewt Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 That's basically pre-Degobah Luke. Force sensitive, uses a blaster for the most part. Knows a few force tricks. I see no real problem. Completely different era and context. In the Star Wars era force users are rare and anybody found to have force abilities would be sent to Korriban and trained as a Sith. Yes, I know force sensitive people could develop some tricks. I believe there is a companion who is not a Jedi/Sith, but has a few force tricks. But adding it to the legacy system is a jumping the shark moment for this game. And it will come in the 2nd major content patch. If they are willing to make this move so early in the game's life, what are they willing to do in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzwald Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 What the crap is this bioware. Why do I see party Queue for ranked Warzones and not Operation Queue? Are you kidding me? So you are going to rank us on 4 man groups when we can't control how bad the other 4 players we get stuck with are? Well, I am expecting to unsubscribe from this game shortly if this bullcrap keeps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jederix Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Tons of that stuff should have been in the game already, like the new legacy system, the UI mods, the appearance mod. but if your happy with them throwing you things that should already be in the game and telling you to wait till april thats fine I will keep laughing at the lack of content the game launched with and the fact people are happy its being added slowly over the course of years Welcome to MMOs. Enjoy your stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigdmkilla Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 This is the game I was supposed to love for years and years..this upsets me. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShavedEwok Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 What I find funny is the people upset at the fact a smuggler can force choke...guess no one had heard of Aurra Sing? or the fact the legacy system is making alts reletives...so maybe that smuggler is the son of some Sith lord/Jedi master who decided not to go into the family business....man people will cry just about anything...and yes I am crying about people crying!! Yeah, why don't up bring up more "amazing" stuff that has been "contributed" to the Star Wars lore, like black lightsabers, lightwips etc. I don't mind people having no regard whatsoever for the Star Wars franchise or lore, but when those same individuals get to influence the lore by making utter crap like this "canon", then it's all out the window. Now, I'm going to wait and see what these Legacy abilities are all about, I can only hope it's nothing close to what I suspect it is, because that would be truly sad IMO. SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azumio Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 So, when if your last month up? July 19th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jederix Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 So, when if your last month up? Not soon enough. His incessent whining and complaining is really getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaconjc Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Completely different era and context. In the Star Wars era force users are rare and anybody found to have force abilities would be sent to Korriban and trained as a Sith. Yes, I know force sensitive people could develop some tricks. I believe there is a companion who is not a Jedi/Sith, but has a few force tricks. But adding it to the legacy system is a jumping the shark moment for this game. And it will come in the 2nd major content patch. If they are willing to make this move so early in the game's life, what are they willing to do in the future? omg really?..... different time period so it does not count?.... ok let me give an example here. on Hutta there is a quest that has you either kill a father and send the son to Korriban to be sith or let him go. So if you let him go don't you think his father would have taught him some force tricks to use along with his blaster? ....ya it's called having an opened mind and seeing that not every force user get found and trained one way or the other...or maybe they just escaped because they did not want that lifestyle.....hardly game breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anedorivan Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 This should help clear up some concerns people have about cross class abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunzo Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 This is the game I was supposed to love for years and years..this upsets me. That is all. This. I couldn't agree with this more. I followed this game from announcement for years, totally excited, pumped because I thought it would keep my occupied for years long after WoW fizzled away. Defended it tirelessly against skeptics. Instead I am disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jederix Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 You do realize this game has Bioware Syndrome- released before the devs sensibly would have wanted it to be. Like KOTOR 2. Their corporate masters wanted the Christmas-time sales more than a fully finished product. I expected that going in, and I'm enjoying what I'm seeing come along now. KOTOR 2 was Obsidian, not Bioware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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