clintcasey Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Actually the earliest Dark Lords of the Sith where not Sith/human hybreeds, but full on Dark Jedi who where exiled from the Republic. As such, they could be a full member of any given species in the Galaxy even generations after the Dark Jedi took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qilikatal Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 Let me see. the lord of an expansive empire...has some sons no doubt, and that most likely also has a seraglio would have alot of ancestors? No really?! They never say how related the person is. It could be that your twi'lek is 1/1000th kallig and powerfull in the force for different reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranadiel_Marius Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Actually, Kallig was a contemporary of Tulak Hord. Both lived during the time of the Sith Empire. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tulak_Hord http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Aloysius_Kallig Which brings us to the conundrum of the Twi'lek SI. Since TCW is T-Canon, and apparently the half-Twi'lek half-Human kids WERE really hybrids, then it is theoretically possible that somewhere down the line from Aloysius Kallig to the SI, one of his descendants married a Twi'lek, and then the half-Twi'lek married a full Twi'lek, and so on and so forth, etc. etc. So basically the previous assumption in C-Canon that humans and Twi'leks can't interbreed has been superceded by the T-Canon TCW episode "Deserter". It will probably be retconned to S-Canon as a rumor. Ok I am just going to ignore all of your discussion regarding levels of canon and just point out something that I think you missed. If the SI is a Twi'lek then Kallig was not a human. I don't mean this as it is impossible for a Twi'lek to have a human ancestor.....I mean that Kallig's species is determined by the SI's species. There is a companion conversaion with Talos where he talks about Kallig. If the SI is a human then Talos says that Kallig was unsusal for his time by being a human Sith with pro-nonhuman views. However if the SI is not a human, Talso instead states that Kallig was unusual for his time because he was a nonhuman sith. The metagame implication of this being that Kallig's species is supposed to be the SI's species and the helmet just cuts off lekku when he is Twi'lek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingMeteor Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Ok I am just going to ignore all of your discussion regarding levels of canon and just point out something that I think you missed. If the SI is a Twi'lek then Kallig was not a human. I don't mean this as it is impossible for a Twi'lek to have a human ancestor.....I mean that Kallig's species is determined by the SI's species. There is a companion conversaion with Talos where he talks about Kallig. If the SI is a human then Talos says that Kallig was unsusal for his time by being a human Sith with pro-nonhuman views. However if the SI is not a human, Talso instead states that Kallig was unusual for his time because he was a nonhuman sith. The metagame implication of this being that Kallig's species is supposed to be the SI's species and the helmet just cuts off lekku when he is Twi'lek. Hmm see this makes me feel a little bit better about the situation. Sure Twi'leks were pretty much slave fodder back in the day when tulak hord and kallig were around but now I realise it's simply a game mechanic issue rather than (imo) a great big plot hole. So now I'm cool with it; Kallig was a twi'lek sith lord who rose up back in the day just like your character did, he wears a helmet that rather than showing his race, shows that bioware didn't make kallig a different model for different species. It was gnawing away at me, glad I didn't reroll human now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisernick Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 That assumes that the Twi'lek was introduced into the bloodline with Kallig. There have been something like 50 generations since then. Assuming a human/twi'lek is possible, it could have happened in any of the 50 generations none of whom should have been Sith Lords since the Sith Inquisitor is the line's return to power. That aside, he wears a mask, so he cold be a Twi'lek with a really weird back story. agreed i jumped to this conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Zone Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) Ok I am just going to ignore all of your discussion regarding levels of canon and just point out something that I think you missed. If the SI is a Twi'lek then Kallig was not a human. I don't mean this as it is impossible for a Twi'lek to have a human ancestor.....I mean that Kallig's species is determined by the SI's species. There is a companion conversaion with Talos where he talks about Kallig. If the SI is a human then Talos says that Kallig was unsusal for his time by being a human Sith with pro-nonhuman views. However if the SI is not a human, Talso instead states that Kallig was unusual for his time because he was a nonhuman sith. The metagame implication of this being that Kallig's species is supposed to be the SI's species and the helmet just cuts off lekku when he is Twi'lek. Well, if THAT's the case, then they need to make the helmets fit with Twi'leks better. Edited May 24, 2012 by Captain_Zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katahn Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Well, if THAT's the case, then they need to make the helmets fit with Twi'leks better. I agree with this entirely. I think the problem is lekku got coded as a kind of hair and helmets that turn hair off (or else you'd have a pony tail sticking out of some helmets and hoods) thus turn the lekku off. Hoods turning off for twi'leks appears to be something that was added as a special case. Of course I'm simply guessing based on the evidence available and that, for example, sith purebloods have special face-features and are handle as different head options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hukd Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 Ok I am just going to ignore all of your discussion regarding levels of canon and just point out something that I think you missed. If the SI is a Twi'lek then Kallig was not a human. I don't mean this as it is impossible for a Twi'lek to have a human ancestor.....I mean that Kallig's species is determined by the SI's species. There is a companion conversaion with Talos where he talks about Kallig. If the SI is a human then Talos says that Kallig was unsusal for his time by being a human Sith with pro-nonhuman views. However if the SI is not a human, Talso instead states that Kallig was unusual for his time because he was a nonhuman sith. The metagame implication of this being that Kallig's species is supposed to be the SI's species and the helmet just cuts off lekku when he is Twi'lek. Maybe Kallig was only half-Twi'lek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranadiel_Marius Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 (edited) Maybe Kallig was only half-Twi'lek? No real evidence to support that. Nothing to really discount it, but I fail to see how that theory resolves anything more than hiim being pure Tw'lek resolves. Edited June 2, 2012 by Ranadiel_Marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Hatine Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 With Sith alchemy, anything is possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisernick Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 without spoiling to much I believe Talos a future companion says that if Kallig was a alien like a twilek or ratatack he says he was a unusual sith for his time as he was a alien. This implied to me that since my assassin was twilek that he was to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EightiesMonkey Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Just thought i would throw my opinion out there, as some people have already stated Talos tells you that Kallig was an alien if you are of non-human origin, so i was thinking what if he used the helmet/mask to hide his features, and in the case of a Twi'lek used the force to hide his Lekku, those who have advanced far enough in the SI story line will know what i mean if i say : Lord/Darth Zash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNCommand Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Maybe he chopped his lekku off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Darkstar Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 The game shows that via the simple drawing of a line a level 30+ character can be related to any other race (Hell it shows that a Twilek and a Human can be siblings!). Kallig must have been level 30 so he can breed with whoever he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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