Stratoforce Posted March 5, 2012 Author Posted March 5, 2012 Inorite? I'm still waiting for his video of him outbursting a ptech. Outrageous claims are just lol. Like people assuming the thread is a QQ thread? So outrageous!
LuthirFontaine Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 as a gunslinger....I normally dont have too much prob with a sage...aslong as he doesnt los me..if he does then yeah im boned.
Calista_ZK Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Wrong. Aoe root goes through resolve. As in even if the marauder has full resolve? They STILL get rooted. The sorc team would cream the marauder team in every single warzone. You sir are in denial and are basing your OPINION on a one on one duel. This is like saying operatives/scoundrels are the best class in the game because they can beat a sentinel/marauder in a duel by CC'ing their rebuke and blowing every single cooldown rofl, even though 9 times out 10 in an actual warzone the marauder is going to bend the operative over because they never have all their cooldowns and the idiot sorc are dotting the marauder through rebuke to keep it restacking. The fact is that every single hybrid sorc added to a warzone screws over the melee on the other team completely. The hybrid sorc/sage spec simply breaks the game. It did in beta. It does now. That is why everyone is rerolling to sage/sorc...just like they did in beta *shocker*... BTW keep using the excuse of "story" or "lighting is cool". Sage animations are horrible, the story is the WORST on the republic side and people are rerolling to them like crazy. Why? Cus hybrid sorc/sage is the most stupidly OP ranged spec ever seen in a mmo, and melee has none of the tools they have in other games to counter it. Like...spam cleanse from healers, immune to CC cooldowns, a second charge (heroic leap) or a shadowstep. Anyone who doesn't think hybrid sorc/sage is STUPIDLY op is quite literally insane. When I see someone who actually can posts something like that, then likely, the only solution is to quit. I don't think anything will make you happy if half the classes have found out by now that you can cope with sorcs/sages quite well 1x1, thank you. The rest of them have learned how to play as a team.
Zaodon Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 2 knockbacks. And it doesnt root on full resolve bar. Another missinformation you read on forums. rofl! Like I said, qq thread from l2p. "omg nerf sages cause I'm an imp and they beat me!"
GrandMike Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) as a gunslinger....I normally dont have too much prob with a sage...aslong as he doesnt los me..if he does then yeah im boned. He kills you while he loses you damn sorcs shooting through walls! Edited March 5, 2012 by GrandMike
Stratoforce Posted March 5, 2012 Author Posted March 5, 2012 No other class in the game roots Theres no other skill that roots I killed the Sniper, and Operative I was fighting in the 3v1. Full resolve bar by the end of that fight, the sorcerer comes running up, herping (again, another example of how full battlemaster is time, not skill), activates his knockback and I am rooted. With only me and him within a good 50 or so meters. Either I am constantly experiencing terrible lag, or tons of people seem to be getting rooted with full resolve bar from the knockback.
JackkSparrow Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 y well u right dude sages/sorcerers are imo the opest class in game so far and this has to change! its time somebody from bw makes a move and fixes it! this game has been under development like the past 7-8 years and tbh i am kinda disappointed! ok lets forget about the bugs and act like we didnt experience them all since all mmos got bugs when they release, but this horrid fps is driving some of my friends and many other swtor players crazy- there's also a thread about it with the exact same name(horrid fps swtor-just type that in google and u will come across it)-its an issue which has been making loads of ppl unable of playing the game and more specially pvp in it- their fps would drop rly low and they woudlnt be able to do a thing. finally pvp is rly bad.. u have sith warriors/jedi knights which is the MAINEST class of the game and also what gives life to star wars and makes them unique been the weakest one out there... U have the pistol wielding classes such as bounty hunters and imperial agents which are 10x better than them! especially bh they deal sick burst dmg, they got bubble with only 2 min cd, very powerful ccs, heals=godmode! Ia operatives are still op they take away like 60% of ur hp when they open from stealth and use their stun once backstab or whatever the thing that makes u incapacitated when they strike is called. the other 40% goes down easy when they are at 100%! And sages/sorcerers are immortals-all they gotta do is spam lighting strike, dots, bubble, heal, lighting strike and shock and boom!.. So plz either boost all classes so they can compete with each other or nerf them! And it wouldnt hurt having the ULTIMATE SW CLASS being a little bit oper! yea warriors need to get better- they should be able to burst and smash everything getting in their way- a bh or an ia shouldnt be a problem! they were supposed to have a major stun or disarm at least for like 4-6 seconds and they have to deal a bit more dmg as well! So lets all hope that bw will take in at least some of things under consideration and maybe put them into action!!!
GrandMike Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) I killed the Sniper, and Operative I was fighting in the 3v1. Full resolve bar by the end of that fight, the sorcerer comes running up, herping (again, another example of how full battlemaster is time, not skill), activates his knockback and I am rooted. With only me and him within a good 50 or so meters. Either I am constantly experiencing terrible lag, or tons of people seem to be getting rooted with full resolve bar from the knockback. Funny because in voidstar every time i use it when door opens, full resolvers just keep on running, no root whatsoever. And i did it gazillion times now. snip BW granted you your wish, marauders/sentinels are OP, though my guess is not for long Edited March 5, 2012 by GrandMike
da_krall Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Your last video of your sage was when warzones were still mixed? No wonder you think there are OP. Those level 13's sure are scary!!!! Pro-tip: Change your zoom out settings to max. You gain better situational awareness. P.S. I would change my youtube name to severelydisappointing if I were you. haha OP is owned.
Stratoforce Posted March 5, 2012 Author Posted March 5, 2012 Funny because in voidstar every time it use it when door opens full resolvers just keep on running, no root whatsoever. And i did it gazillion times now. Clearly you are doing it wrong. You do know the root also breaks on damage right? ANY damage. A slight breeze.
savionen Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) Funny because in voidstar every time it use it when door opens full resolvers just keep on running, no root whatsoever. And i did it gazillion times now. Are there other roots that work while resolve is full? I played against a full team of Sorcerers, Assassins and Juggernauts and after we were detonating a door we'd have 3-4 Sorcs literally come in and spam knockbacks all at once and most of us would be rooted even with full resolve, making it a lot tougher to interrupt their disarming. Assassins don't have a root. Juggernauts only have it on charge I believe, and it's not AoE. It happens pretty commonly. Edited March 5, 2012 by savionen
LuthirFontaine Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 He kills you while he loses you damn sorcs shooting through walls! biggest prob is there damn run and heal. Bloody sucks!
Stratoforce Posted March 5, 2012 Author Posted March 5, 2012 I'll wait here while you guys post these amazing videos of marauders in full battlemaster gear, with 25 buttons keybound running over full battlemaster sages/sorcerers to the point where the feel helpless. In 1v1 combat. In a warzone. Right, it never happens. Moving on.
GrandMike Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) Clearly you are doing it wrong. You do know the root also breaks on damage right? ANY damage. A slight breeze. After 2s. But it seems thats news to you also Doing it wrong? lol Its a skill, you push a button and it goes off Are there other roots that work while resolve is full? I played against a full team of Sorcerers, Assassins and Juggernauts and after we were detonating a door we'd have 3-4 Sorcs literally come in and spam knockbacks all at once and most of us would be rooted even with full resolve, making it a lot tougher to interrupt their disarming. Assassins don't have a root. Juggernauts only have it on charge I believe, and it's not AoE. It happens pretty commonly. Any direct root (mara/sent, ops/sco, PT/Van, sorc top tree dot talent ...) works with full resolve. One on knockback does not work on full resolve Edited March 5, 2012 by GrandMike
Mongrul Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 My class is incredibly silly. This is my spec. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#600Zfc0MdRrhZcMcRsMz.1 http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201Zfc0MdRrhZcMcRsMz.1 (Sorcerer version) 340~ Expertise. It isn't even optimized, but it is a spec that suits my playstyle, and I can beat full battlemaster geared people. I have an answer for everything, can heal myself, and get away really easily. I'd say the only thing that even comes remotely close to giving me trouble is good operatives/scoundrels and Powertechs/vanguards. Even then, it is still drastically in my favor. Every game now is against 5 sages or sorcerers + other on my server. We are the best healers, best at utility, and because of this it makes us great to have in bulk. I'd like to see more things get moved up high enough into the trees so hybrid specs aren't viable at all. Kinetic Collapse/Backlash and Electric Bindings/Force wake, combined with Madness/Wrath and Telekinetic Balance/Presence of Mind are the criminals. Please fix this, thanks. unless you have played every class yourself as much as you have played sage . your testimony is flawed, because you have nothing to compare with.
me_unknown Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 8 aoe knockbacks is hell for melee, just chain knockback or alternate knockbacks and it's a win for the sages resolve resolves this issue great ideas like this come from people without any clue of pvp just wanting to post about their frustration....instead of l2p
da_krall Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 8 aoe knockbacks is hell for melee, just chain knockback or alternate knockbacks and it's a win for the sages Where in any WZ will you be hit by 8 KBs timed to perfection?? this is just made up theorycraft BS.
savionen Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) resolve resolves this issue great ideas like this come from people without any clue of pvp just wanting to post about their frustration....instead of l2p Actually would work pretty well in Huttball. Knock people off ledges and they're rooted. Having a knockback+AoE Root on a short cooldown is pretty absurd, really. Edited March 5, 2012 by savionen
Stratoforce Posted March 5, 2012 Author Posted March 5, 2012 unless you have played every class yourself as much as you have played sage . your testimony is flawed, because you have nothing to compare with. I have a powertech actually, just hit 50 with him. I was in the process of leveling an operative, but I am burned out on it. I rather compare my powertech to my sage anyway. Since whining about Pyrotech is the new flavor of the month whine, along with marauders.
me_unknown Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 My class is incredibly silly. This is my spec. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#600Zfc0MdRrhZcMcRsMz.1 http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201Zfc0MdRrhZcMcRsMz.1 (Sorcerer version) actually the build you use alone shows quite well your lack of knwoledge about your class in multiple ways. is this really the build you are using? as SAGE (not sroc)?
Stratoforce Posted March 5, 2012 Author Posted March 5, 2012 After 2s. But it seems thats news to you also Doing it wrong? lol Its a skill, you push a button and it goes off Any direct root (mara/sent, ops/sco, PT/Van, sorc top tree dot talent ...) works with full resolve. One on knockback does not work on full resolve So, out of the 6 people attempting to troll this thread none of you can find these amazing marauder videos? Of 1v1 fights. Both full battlemasters. Don't forget, 25 keybindings, and in a warzone. Cause, these are the conditions you all keep stating. I'll be waiting.
Mongrul Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 So, out of the 6 people attempting to troll this thread none of you can find these amazing marauder videos? Of 1v1 fights. Both full battlemasters. Don't forget, 25 keybindings, and in a warzone. Cause, these are the conditions you all keep stating. I'll be waiting. hey pal. when you come out saying you are unstoppable you should expect for people to try and stop you or find a way to? or call you out on it
Stratoforce Posted March 5, 2012 Author Posted March 5, 2012 actually the build you use alone shows quite well your lack of knwoledge about your class in multiple ways. is this really the build you are using? as SAGE (not sroc)? Yep. I even said it isn't optimized, or did you not read that as well?
Stratoforce Posted March 5, 2012 Author Posted March 5, 2012 hey pal. when you come out saying you are unstoppable you should expect for people to try and stop you or find a way to? or call you out on it Never said I was unstoppable. Feel free to prove when I did. I've said sages/sorcerers are a strong class, and talents need to be repositioned. Instead, it is 9284902849234 people who don't know how to read, assuming it is a QQ thread in any shape or form, telling me to L2P when I have no problems while playing any of my classes. Cause unlike them, I am not in a forum whining about marauders/powertechs but rather wanting my class to be more interesting to play.
da_krall Posted March 5, 2012 Posted March 5, 2012 Are there other roots that work while resolve is full? yes, all of them, every single one from every class and even some from crew skills.
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