Spungey Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 opps, should of placed this post in the Sentinel forums, and not just Jedi knight. But anyways, as a Solid Single Target dps Watchman sents are insane and I myself feel we are a tad OP. Not by much...but 400k wz's is very common nowadays for me. Today was my first time breaking 500k and I was very proud of it. SO, to all those saying watchman are trash in pvp...proof is given.. We have the same burst as combat, more survivability and more utility. Personal preference is always first, but just letting you know watchman spec'd sent a ****** in pvp.. Once you get the Priority list down its smooth sailing from there, ezpz and ez kills. http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4981/540kj.jpg ps...this def seems like im gloating, and i know there have been others out there that have done more..just wanted to make a point that a Watchman in the right hands is deadly// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowantics Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 nobody said combat was better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse- Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Use Zen more. In Voidstar, you should average a 1:5 or 1:4 ratio of healing:damage. Other two warzones require a lot more Transcendence, but not Voidstar. And yes, the first time you do 500k is memorable, as is the first 600k and 700k. I'm at the point where I'm disappointed when I've got 300k before the end of round one, cause it means round 2 is probably going to be really fast. 600k/700k are really just about the game being a stalemate with lots of healing, where as 500k is possible when one team is just getting overwhelmed but has healing. P.S. You've got mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spungey Posted March 4, 2012 Author Share Posted March 4, 2012 i use zen everyime its up, with overload saber..unless the cd has a few seconds. overheal doesn't count towards healing btw.. 700k...yeh..are you just beating on there dps while there healer heals away.. I use no pvp gear, 0 expertise...but 700k..i'd like to see a screeny of that one. most aoe spammers can't do that unless ur running against scrubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotanartlu Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Do you guys get called haxors as well? I had the whole imp fleet ticket me for doin 400k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spungey Posted March 4, 2012 Author Share Posted March 4, 2012 oh..and bee tee dubs..my 540 with 50+ kills is better than 640 with 19 kills..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spungey Posted March 4, 2012 Author Share Posted March 4, 2012 Do you guys get called haxors as well? I had the whole imp fleet ticket me for doin 400k. no not really...overload saber burns for 1600 and cauterize for 800...that dmg adds up. and yes there is pletny of argument that combat sent is superior in pvp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriYL Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 This guy is quite pleased with himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamPvP Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Imperials don't know how to cleanse on your server? Brb rerolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGsam Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 i use zen everyime its up, with overload saber..unless the cd has a few seconds. overheal doesn't count towards healing btw.. 700k...yeh..are you just beating on there dps while there healer heals away.. I use no pvp gear, 0 expertise...but 700k..i'd like to see a screeny of that one. most aoe spammers can't do that unless ur running against scrubs I've done 770k damage (watchman spec of course) Voidstar before, nobody got through the first door in either round, both teams had multiple healers and tanks to guard, it's all situational... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldxLady Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) I've done 770k damage (watchman spec of course) Voidstar before, nobody got through the first door in either round, both teams had multiple healers and tanks to guard, it's all situational... This... Got a little ove 700k once on Voidstar, with same conditions as this guy had. Sadly, dident take any screenshot that time and to be honest rearly do take screan shot, as have no need to boost my epeen ;p Alsos the 500k is avarage on a long round to most good Sentinles/Mara... So yeah, what was you point with this thread OP? Did you want people go "You so pro" for some avarage damage? Edited March 4, 2012 by OldxLady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalimist_ Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) What's the point of this thread? What's the point in saying "I did more damage/700k" without proving it? Questions over questions. I'd really like to see a screenshot of a Watchman/Anni Sentinel/Marauder doing 700k+ damage, even in Voidstar. I played against a team once that pretty much just contained healers and I still didn't break the 700k - I probably could have done it with a pocket healer of my own but that'd be beside the point anyway. This... Got a little ove 700k once on Voidstar, with same conditions as this guy had. Sadly, dident take any screenshot that time and to be honest rearly do take screan shot, as have no need to boost my epeen ;p Alsos the 500k is avarage on a long round to most good Sentinles/Mara... Let's review the facts: - You did more than 700k damage once - 500k is average for you - you don't feel the need to boost your "epeen" Gotta love the contrariety. Edited March 4, 2012 by Kalimist_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowantics Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Do you guys get called haxors as well? I had the whole imp fleet ticket me for doin 400k. i got called that. funny too. cuz the main guy imp guy is a tank spec and does 400k too. and they think as a dps i shouldnt be able to heal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse- Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 oh..and bee tee dubs..my 540 with 50+ kills is better than 640 with 19 kills..lol Not necessarily. You did 540k against ~700k healing. If someone does 640k against 600k healing, they were more effective at negating healers. It's all situational. As for kills, rebuke/sweep can add a lot of fluff tags, Killing blows tells a better story. You were what your team needed that game, against a different team makeup, 640k with 19 kills might be what your team needed. Also, I've never claimed I did 700k. I've hit 675k+ three times, but I've never actually broke 700k, I've only seen 700k damage broken once in game(sage guildie), and that match I had 608k. Reason I said it's a milestone is because I consciously know I haven't past it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldxLady Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) Let's review the facts: - You did more than 700k damage once - 500k is average for you - you don't feel the need to boost your "epeen" Gotta love the contrariety. Well lets see you creat a thread where you state that no one have done more damage than you, and what you are saying is that you are best sentinel there (The big picture)... So yes, I dont boost my so called epeen when I mention my stats to show you that its just avarage for realy good players. Also as stated before I almost never take SS in any games, even if I feel like I am the best player on not. Because for some people, there is no need to state that you are good, you just need to show it in game enought times to get noticed. In the end its just a game, where everything will be forgoten once somthing better is out. So i theory there is no point in trying to show of or prove somthing, as in 1-2 years it wont matter. Edited March 4, 2012 by OldxLady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancaketime Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Sorcs and sages can break 1 mil nowadays on voidstar. I don't understand why you're getting defensive and arguing against 700k. It's not that high even.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalimist_ Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Well lets see you creat a thread where you state that no one have done more damage than you, and what you are saying is that you are best sentinel there (The big picture)... So yes, I dont boost my so called epeen when I mention my stats to show you that its just avarage for realy good players. I think first off we can agree that damage has nothing to do with the quality of a player. Secondly the fact remains that claiming something without being able to prove it, is being a blowhard. Sorcs and sages can break 1 mil nowadays on voidstar. I don't understand why you're getting defensive and arguing against 700k. It's not that high even.. Because it is single target damage. Show me a screenshot then, shouldn't be so hard to find huh? Under very rare circumstances (uncommon enemy team composition + having a pocket healer) it surely is possible but in your everyday PuG? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldxLady Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) Because it is single target damage. Show me a screenshot then, shouldn't be so hard to find huh? Under very rare circumstances (uncommon enemy team composition + having a pocket healer) it surely is possible but in your everyday PuG? I don't think so. Ohh god, you and your screenshot... Did you had to travel to Australia to actualy confirm that its not just another Hollywood made up country? No, no one said 700k is "everyday PUG" damage, what we said is that a realy good player can brake 700k damage without much trubble if the "condition" are perfect. This was for me one time so for another guy in here, dont belive us, wait til you get full BM gear with custemized mods and you will see... Back on topic, yes 500k is avarage on long Voidstar, want proof on that? Well here is 1 Screenshot I took, only because this was done on a hybrid spec (Combat/Focus) where I focus mostly around crit on Force Sweep, Bladestorm and Zealus Leap. As any good Sentinel out there will know, this is a rubbish build for damage, and pure Watchman or even Focus will beat this any day (as I did with a little above 700k damage). So yes, prove me wrong that on a long round Voidstar its hard to get over 500k damage, especialy with Watchman build? Edited March 5, 2012 by OldxLady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spungey Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 This guy is quite pleased with himself. Who wouldn't be pleased with a 542k total damage with 51 kills...its my first time passing 500k as watchman and i've read on these forums that watchman never seem to get high damage in wz's. You may think this is just for my epeen, well sorta..but im proud to dish it out. I use no AoE..maybe 25-30k of that came from sweep. Im not a Sage, not some AoE spamr...no tracer missle/grav round spam'r. Im a sent, and Proud that I am. Sorry you think i'm full of myself, that was never the intention.. I'm just a player that is giving info out on the benefits of watchman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spungey Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 Sorcs and sages can break 1 mil nowadays on voidstar. I don't understand why you're getting defensive and arguing against 700k. It's not that high even.. lol sorcs and sages can break 700k with AoE...this is single target and again. i'm not saying im the best sentinel..i watch twitch.tv to learn just as everyone else can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spungey Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) Post a screeny of a Sentinel with 700k+, screen shot or it didnt happen. See this is thing about forums, everyone is such dbags about someone being proud they accomplised something and they get knocked down for it. Grow up. I never once said I was the best Sentinel... You claim your 700k+ then my gram's looks like a Supermodel..its bologna. Once you pull SS then i'll admit I'm wrong. I personally know of a sentinel doing 640k with 19 kills because he beat on the healer the entire match. but pls SS this 700k+.. I was happy I broke 500k. 542k was fantatstic, but teenagers who think bashing people because they fell on there heads to much is, well we all know why. Old gen vs new gen...gotta love it Edited March 5, 2012 by Spungey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spungey Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 Not necessarily. You did 540k against ~700k healing. If someone does 640k against 600k healing, they were more effective at negating healers. It's all situational. As for kills, rebuke/sweep can add a lot of fluff tags, Killing blows tells a better story. You were what your team needed that game, against a different team makeup, 640k with 19 kills might be what your team needed. Also, I've never claimed I did 700k. I've hit 675k+ three times, but I've never actually broke 700k, I've only seen 700k damage broken once in game(sage guildie), and that match I had 608k. Reason I said it's a milestone is because I consciously know I haven't past it yet. why are u basing my damage off of every single heal, and the total amount healed from the other team was 626,826, so a tad shy from your calculation. also..the 640k with only 19 kills def isnt what any team needs..in voidstar u need em all die so they sit behind the glass, but w/e... again, this post has nothing to do will waving an epeen..it shows what the Watchman spec can do....I use no pvp gear and run full Rakata with only Columi Chest/gloves/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spungey Posted March 5, 2012 Author Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) Ohh god, you and your screenshot... Did you had to travel to Australia to actualy confirm that its not just another Hollywood made up country? No, no one said 700k is "everyday PUG" damage, what we said is that a realy good player can brake 700k damage without much trubble if the "condition" are perfect. This was for me one time so for another guy in here, dont belive us, wait til you get full BM gear with custemized mods and you will see... Back on topic, yes 500k is avarage on long Voidstar, want proof on that? Well here is 1 Screenshot I took, only because this was done on a hybrid spec (Combat/Focus) where I focus mostly around crit on Force Sweep, Bladestorm and Zealus Leap. As any good Sentinel out there will know, this is a rubbish build for damage, and pure Watchman or even Focus will beat this any day (as I did with a little above 700k damage). So yes, prove me wrong that on a long round Voidstar its hard to get over 500k damage, especialy with Watchman build? Please for the love of almighty.. Go read your post on Page 2 saying that, "you don't need to take SS cause your so awesome people fall over when they see you"...what a hypocrit. Right there is retard SS, and everyone knows it's easy dish out tons of damage aas a Force sweep crit spec'd Sent in voidstar. you get a bunch of morons standing together and 5k-6k crits to everyone. THIS WAS ABOUT SINGLE TARGET now i really really really wanna see you Watchman 700k SS. since the smart guy doesn't know the difference between Single Target and AoE. Please enlighten me. For one Battlemaster gear is a joke right now and thats not gonna make you some god in pvp Regardless of the damage reduction the gain doesnt compare to Full rakata. Please stop posting SS's of your AoE spec'd sent. And yes, everyone on Elysium knows me. I've proven time and time again i am one of the top sents on the server. You just made my day posting a SS of a Force Sweep Crit Voidstar where nubs group up as they drop down...as you can easily tell your team facerolled them. I bet you was looking like crazy for a screenshot of that 500k Force Sweep cit. I really wish you would of highlighted the damage to see what ur biggest crit was Edited March 5, 2012 by Spungey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldxLady Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Sigh, I realy hope you are not an adult cause thats some awesome reading there. You keep trying way to hard to get some positive response, even thought many say over and over that just some avarage singeltarget damage... Anywho guys, let this thread pass away... Nothing special to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalimist_ Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 ... 1. The guy above me said 700k "isn't even that high". Imo that is much much closer to everyday PuG than to "possible under the perfect circumstances". So yeah, he pretty much said that. 2. So 500k is average in your average zerg game with a pocket healer sticking to your *** 24/7 - what's that supposed to prove? And considering your overall stats... 7 medals, really? I even had 6-8 medals on my sentinel while leveling 90% of the time. But damage is more important, amirite? 3. I have full BM gear, Valor rank 69 right now. And I say 700k isn't possible unless you have someone healing you all the time AND the enemy teams lacks damage. 4. Everything you said is pretty much invalid since you tried to make a point with a screenshot of a game in which you had your own personal healer + the enemy team was 2:1 outmatched in both damage and healing. 5. So you are trying to tell me/us that you take a screenshot entitled "500kMatch" but you don't take one of you doing 700k+ 'cause you don't have to push your epeen? Yeah right, very believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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