notoriousjrd Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 everything outside of class quests is boring, repetitious, and not specific to any characters. this has basically stuck people to rolling one republic and one empire if you want an alt. yes theres much more to rant on with this but i dont wanna write a whole page hahaha. just wanted to see if anyone else agreed or is encountering some of the same troubles. if anybody is having the same problems and has any suggestions please feel free because i wanna try so many more classes but am getting sick or running 3/4 of the same missions over and over again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanxlink Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Biodrones will tell you its your problem if you dont like to repeat the same things over and over, they love it because its BW-EA-SW. Normal people will tell you that you can do them like 2 or 3 times (IMO) before it gets like a job, and I already have one of those tyvm. So yes, you are right, but, Im not an altaholic and have already 1 50 BH, a 33 sorc and a 35 jugg, and few other 25s, and with that in mind, your mileage may vary, but its going to end being same old same old no matter how long you get to drag it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUBBUH Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Really what doesn't this game lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy_Boo Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 This is a major concern. I really don't think this game should have a subscription fee, sorry. I'm not saying it's not good for what it is, a story driven game with some multiplayer (MMO if you want to call it that) elements in it, but I expected alot more variety within the leveling experience, especially since Bioware stated repeatedly that they wanted us to play alts as to experience the class storylines. I was really looking forward to playing through the classes, but at this right I don't think I will. I'm enjoying still working my way to 50 slowly for what it's worth. I don't regret the purchase, was just expecting more leveling content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayfax Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I can't get a single alt on the same faction to any significant level. The game just bottoms out for me about half way through Taris. I might try skipping the quests and leveling through space missions & PvP. At least that offers a little more variety. At least, I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanxlink Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I can't get a single alt on the same faction to any significant level. The game just bottoms out for me about half way through Taris. I might try skipping the quests and leveling through space missions & PvP. At least that offers a little more variety. At least, I hope so. My sorc is doing barely any quests, got sick off it already, pvp and rested XP, and 30 min gaming sessions, either that or back to YT and the history channel et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tservo Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I agree - I just can't go through the same quests again like this. I do a few hours every few days on an alt, and mix a lot of PVP in. I tried space missions again, i quit halfway through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excid Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 It has far more replayability than WoW and their alt system imo. Being a vet WoW player and playing this game.. this game has better replayability. WoW and other mmos had nothing different between alts minus the skills each class possessed. This game has that as well but also unique (and intriguing) class quests. Wasting my time posting this I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy_Boo Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 It has far more replayability than WoW and their alt system imo. Being a vet WoW player and playing this game.. this game has better replayability. WoW and other mmos had nothing different between alts minus the skills each class possessed. This game has that as well but also unique (and intriguing) class quests. Wasting my time posting this I'm sure. How can you really say that though? The quest path you take, with the exception of the class quests, are the same between each class of each faction. The Taris I experience on my agent will be the same Taris I experience on my warrior and so forth. The difference between WoW and TOR is that WoW had 2 or 3 zones for each class to experience for leveling. I may do Ashenvale on my hunter, and then decide on my druid that I'd rather go do Wetlands instead of Ashenvale. That is far more than TOR can say. The class quests make up for too small a portion of the questing to be cited as versatility in the leveling experience. I just don't know where you are getting this idea that this game has a robust, versatile leveling experience. Care to elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicalPremise Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 It has far more replayability than WoW and their alt system imo. Being a vet WoW player and playing this game.. this game has better replayability. WoW and other mmos had nothing different between alts minus the skills each class possessed. This game has that as well but also unique (and intriguing) class quests. Wasting my time posting this I'm sure. So you didn't even bother to read any part of the thread, went on some kind of rant about an entirely different game, and managed to point out a huge issue with THIS game that you attribute to wow, but say it's okay because they have good class quests....what? To the OP: the best way to manage replayability is to stagger your characters. Get going on one side for a while, then the other side, then start a new alt, etc. My mains are at 50 and 49, my secondaries at 30 and 34, my third set of alts is at 11 and 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanxlink Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 It has far more replayability than WoW and their alt system imo. Being a vet WoW player and playing this game.. this game has better replayability. WoW and other mmos had nothing different between alts minus the skills each class possessed. This game has that as well but also unique (and intriguing) class quests. Wasting my time posting this I'm sure. Yep, should have used that time to read the OP, also, no. WoW has heaps of replayability compared to SWTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tservo Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) I may do Ashenvale on my hunter, and then decide on my druid that I'd rather go do Wetlands instead of Ashenvale. Good point - I didn't play WOW, but in EQ (I know..) I had a choice of a few different zones I could head to and grind some xp. I mean there were a bunch at certain levels. Here you're pointed in one direction, the same direction, over and over. I guess the problem is that it all needs to be done through quests, and everything in the game has a voice over and cut scene. They are actually limited on content by how fast they can do the voice overs and cut scenes... Edited March 4, 2012 by Tservo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JansanRuno Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 It has far more replayability than WoW and their alt system imo. Being a vet WoW player and playing this game.. this game has better replayability. WoW and other mmos had nothing different between alts minus the skills each class possessed. This game has that as well but also unique (and intriguing) class quests. Wasting my time posting this I'm sure. Yeah, most will say waste of time, but I agree. Nothing more boring than WoW alts where 100% of everything you do is repeated. At least here it is about 60% repeated. An improvement to me. Your alts have different class quests, different companions, you can play different dark/light. Lots more options. I guess I wasted some time with you. :+) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevlarto Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) ]everything outside of class quests is boring' date=' repetitious, and not specific to any characters. [/size']this has basically stuck people to rolling one republic and one empire if you want an alt. yes theres much more to rant on with this but i dont wanna write a whole page hahaha. just wanted to see if anyone else agreed or is encountering some of the same troubles. if anybody is having the same problems and has any suggestions please feel free because i wanna try so many more classes but am getting sick or running 3/4 of the same missions over and over again that first line is every mmo on the market, why would TOR be any different.. Yes the class quests are kinda different, but I pick and choose my quests outside of the class quest, there are some side quests I thought were fun, some of the npc's personalities are good for a chuckle, I might do more flash points on one toon or different ones, mix up the heroics, do more bonus quests on one toon less on the other, you can mix and match to a point, a few space missions, some pvp, you don't have to take the exact same path on every toon.. pretty much all mmo's after a starting area dump you into the same world with the same quests reguardless of your class, at least here the class story offers something a bit diffferent, at least for me it does.. lotro, after the starting area you had the same quests as every other class, you could mix it up a bit by going to a different area, but after a while you get all the areas covered, thats one flaw with all mmo's.. including TOR, wow, eq, etc etc etc Edited March 4, 2012 by kevlarto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarchi Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I've found that if you level up a char light side, and do the same class line but do it all dark side, you will get different quests to do by your outcome choices. My Sage light V level 50 and my Shadow is Dark V level 47, and this kept the levelling bearable for me, just to see what how the class and planet storylines unfolded by my choices. And as prev recommended, staggering your alts helps as well, I keep a couple in each of the 10 brackets, ie 10 - 20, 20 - 30, etc etc. Regards Anarchi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkon Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 (edited) Bioware dug them selves a huge hole with this game. It was designed like a dirt pile, you can't go change things with causing huge shifts in the pile. This is shown as the re-surfacing of bugs. The changes this game needs to become more replayable are first-development changes, the funding after launch isn't good enough and there is way to much to change. It just wouldn't be fiscally responsible. So the only options now are to add to the pile. The first mistake was making the game a rollercoaster instead of a sandbox as the Star Wars IP deserves. the second was not having free-form space the third was making a single player game 95% of the content. the fourth was making a single story-path for every character, on each side. There are 2 things bioware could do that would make huge improvements. 1. Produce at least 10 hours of new content every month. 2. Add a new PvP map each month Edited March 4, 2012 by Valkon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchbass Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 everything outside of class quests is boring, repetitious, and not specific to any characters. this has basically stuck people to rolling one republic and one empire if you want an alt. yes theres much more to rant on with this but i dont wanna write a whole page hahaha. just wanted to see if anyone else agreed or is encountering some of the same troubles. if anybody is having the same problems and has any suggestions please feel free because i wanna try so many more classes but am getting sick or running 3/4 of the same missions over and over again Totally agree, try leveling the other AC of your spec, LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Really what doesn't this game lack. Do you just sit on these forms trying to find ways to hate this game all day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Urtani Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I've stopped playing, I have no interest in continuing my character or my alts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fardarter Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 SWTOR is by far the most linear mmo I have ever played, I started playing MMOs in 1996. I agree it shouldn't have a sub fee. I would feel a lot better about this game if we just payed for content when it is released. Doesn't matter though I am still payed for another month yet i havent played in a month a have no plans to. I am disappointed in this game but I am not upset about it. It is what it is. Objectively, Trion did a hell of a lot more with less than huge companies EA/BW could do with the Star Wars IP. Based on the IP and the money spent and time in development this game is a failure right now. I hope it changes and they can right the ship but my gut tells me that if the devs had that capacity we would have seen more by now. No game is perfect, they all have their problems but I think many of us expected a lot more from this title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy_Boo Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 SWTOR is by far the most linear mmo I have ever played, I started playing MMOs in 1996. I agree it shouldn't have a sub fee. I would feel a lot better about this game if we just payed for content when it is released. Doesn't matter though I am still payed for another month yet i havent played in a month a have no plans to. I am disappointed in this game but I am not upset about it. It is what it is. Objectively, Trion did a hell of a lot more with less than huge companies EA/BW could do with the Star Wars IP. Based on the IP and the money spent and time in development this game is a failure right now. I hope it changes and they can right the ship but my gut tells me that if the devs had that capacity we would have seen more by now. No game is perfect, they all have their problems but I think many of us expected a lot more from this title. I'm not sure I'm ready to say the game is a failure. Like I said, I'm having fun, enjoying it for what it is. Sort of taking the game at face value. I'm glad someone else echoes my belief that the sub model for this game isn't justified. I really just wanted to say that I totally agree with you about Trion. It really goes to show you doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchbass Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I'm not sure I'm ready to say the game is a failure. Like I said, I'm having fun, enjoying it for what it is. Sort of taking the game at face value. I'm glad someone else echoes my belief that the sub model for this game isn't justified. I really just wanted to say that I totally agree with you about Trion. It really goes to show you doesn't it? Why on why did they make alt leveling painful like Vanilla WoW? I really wanted to do level a sith Assassin and an inquistor (spelling?) but the exact same leveling experience to 50 is too much for me, especially when the questing is sub par for a single player game without the second time through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uniz Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 every mmo had this problem in its early life with some more so than others. this one is no different. it only changes when new races with thier new zones are added later on. also if you played beta at all then now after your first 50 you are burned out going through the same content for gods knows how many times. this is one reason i didnt play beta. every time i do i get burned out on the lower level content i have been playing months before launch. i am sure many of you are now suffering from this. until new content is added one must be creative in leveling ones alts. here is one possible solution. yourself and a friend(s) make new toons. start out on the same planet if you like but this even isnt needed. when you leave group up and play together as a group. only play these toons together in your little group. now you can do the group content you may have missed, have someone to talk to and look forward to log on with and play. you will be surprised how much fun this can be doing each others story lines and etc. give it a try you might make a few more friends on the way even. there are other solutions but hopefully you get the idea here. just because you can play alone doesnt mean you have to always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raora Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Amazing how people forget how other mmo's are and are so quick to bash this game. I played EQ2 for 6 years with many alts and you want to talk repitition? TOR has tons more new content for each class than any other game I've played. I enjoy each class as I have 8 characters, one from each class, and I play all of them and enjoy my time. For those of you that can barely log on. One piece of advice. Just leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dystopic Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I agree. I really wish they would buff PVP XP. I didn't really like questing my first time through my second time it's horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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