mhuntly Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) I had a 2.2GHz amd phenom x4 and upgraded to a i5 2500k. The i5 rofl stomps this game. I also have an msi 560ti twinfrozer2/oc. I have all graphics settings maxed out besides aa is on low and get 100+ fps besides in illums major battles I bog down to about 40fps which is completely payable. That is due to the servers not the "bad code". Edited March 2, 2012 by mhuntly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samborino Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) Is that with OC'ing your 2500k? I am also very pleased i am using an i7 2700k oc'd to 4.5 ghz. on a asus p8p67 pro rev 3.1 I am playing on a radeon 6950 1 gb i dont notice any slowdown really, but i dont really play on ilum so that would be something i would have to test out. I have everything on max settings including AA. You can only look at your FPS with an external program for this game right? There is no in game fps meter unless i am mistaken. Regardless even with 200 people on imperial fleet i notice 0 slowdown (sure some may be there but it is not evident to my eyes) Edited March 2, 2012 by Samborino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarai Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 You can only look at your FPS with an external program for this game right? There is no in game fps meter unless i am mistaken. Ctrl+Shift+F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephistofilus Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Is that with OC'ing your 2500k? I am also very pleased i am using an i7 2700k oc'd to 4.5 ghz. on a asus p8p67 pro rev 3.1 I am playing on a radeon 6950 1 gb i dont notice any slowdown really, but i dont really play on ilum so that would be something i would have to test out. I have everything on max settings including AA. You can only look at your FPS with an external program for this game right? There is no in game fps meter unless i am mistaken. Regardless even with 200 people on imperial fleet i notice 0 slowdown (sure some may be there but it is not evident to my eyes) Refresh rate of 60hz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarai Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Refresh rate of 60hz? Most people won't notice until the frame-rate drops under 30. The "under 60 is terrible" folks fall into one of two categories: - Experienceing a placebo effect from knowing the frame-rate, likely due to a conversation with someone from the second group. - A certain small portion of the population is actually able to notice frame-to-frame lag before 60 frames. After that, it's pretty much impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theronlas Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Refresh rate of 60hz? Unless you game on a CRT still, yes refresh rate will be 60Hz... And no need for it to be higher (sans 3D) human eyes are not that sensitive, which is why movies are generally 24-30FPS . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inarai Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Unless you game on a CRT still, yes refresh rate will be 60Hz... And no need for it to be higher (sans 3D) human eyes are not that sensitive, which is why movies are generally 24-30FPS . Mid you, movies get away with lower because the motion blur comes in with the recording, helping the brain fill in the gaps between frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biznotch Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Good thing I'm getting a 3930k. AMD sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourTwent Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I had a 2.2GHz amd phenom x4 and upgraded to a i5 2500k. The i5 rofl stomps this game. I also have an msi 560ti twinfrozer2/oc. I have all graphics settings maxed out besides aa is on low and get 100+ fps besides in illums major battles I bog down to about 40fps which is completely payable. That is due to the servers not the "bad code". You better not be lying I just ordered this video card and we will see the results. Ilum used to be 1-5 fps literally. So an upgrade to 40 will be epic. Really, the only thing in my computer that is lacking was the video card. I was using a XFX HD-485X-ZDFC Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3. So in comparison, the new chard has twice the clock speed, and is GDDR5 instead of 3. I'll be interested in the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungan Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Yeah, I too gotta build me a new PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhuntly Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Is that with OC'ing your 2500k? I am also very pleased i am using an i7 2700k oc'd to 4.5 ghz. on a asus p8p67 pro rev 3.1 I am playing on a radeon 6950 1 gb i dont notice any slowdown really, but i dont really play on ilum so that would be something i would have to test out. I have everything on max settings including AA. You can only look at your FPS with an external program for this game right? There is no in game fps meter unless i am mistaken. Regardless even with 200 people on imperial fleet i notice 0 slowdown (sure some may be there but it is not evident to my eyes) Yes that is after overclocking i5@4.5 but it was still above 60fps out of illum before overclocking. I actually just got a stable oc on my 560ti with 980mhz core @ 1.037v but even after that I rcommend using low setting aa if you prefer performance over quality. Also everyone should try out msi afterburner for your gpu. Run heaven to find stability.its not hard. Get your moneys worth out of your gpu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephistofilus Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Ctrl+Shift+F I see two diff numbers. Is the left the live and the right the avg. or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhuntly Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 I see two diff numbers. Is the left the live and the right the avg. or what? I think left is live right is average.I could be wrong. I use left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephistofilus Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 ***... I am using a EVGA GeForce GTX 560. 2GB superclocked from the factory... Part number... evga 02G-P3-2069-KB Here's a link to the complete specs... http://www.bestbuy.com/site/EVGA+-+GeForce+GTX+560+2GB+GDDR5+PCI+Express+2.0+Graphics+Card/3628108.p?id=1218421870828&skuId=3628108&st=evga&cp=1&lp=3 I just bought this a couple of months ago and I was told it would run ANYTHING I threw at it smooth as butter. I am running a AMD Phenom II X4 925 Processor with 2.8G (Quad-Core) 8 Gigs of DDR3 SDRAM It is showing me hopping at 20s and 30s on Frames per second on Ilum at central. There is not any fighting going on right now so i wouldnt think it was REALLY bogged down. At the Imperial Fleet it is showing me at the 30's-40's on Frames per second. Really weird because once i get on another planet or something I can get into the 80-90's. Again I dont see or notice any skipping or anything at these frame rates... but I DO on ilum.. ESPECIALLY during battle. I have'nt had any kind of lag or skipping until I came to Ilum and I have kept my setttings on High for graphics. Do my frames per second seem bad? If so why am I getting this? What can I do to improve it? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daekarus Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 (edited) This game DOES do odd things with hardware. I've got: Phenom II X4 @ 3.5 GHz 4GB DDR2 RAM EVGA Geforce 460 GTX 1GB It's rare I see anything below 60 fps, and very rare to see 40 or less. I don't PVP, but playing all the way to 50 in heroics and whatnot, it never stumbles. Even when Fleet is crowded it never drops from refresh rate at 60fps. Edited March 2, 2012 by Daekarus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malastare Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 ***... I am using a EVGA GeForce GTX 560. 2GB superclocked from the factory...! For anyone shopping for video cards: A "GTX 560" is not the same as a "GTX 560 Ti". The "560" has 12% fewer cores and a significantly lower memory bandwidth. The "560 Ti" will noticeably outperform the "560", even at stock. The "560 Ti" does run at a lower clock speed than the "560", but this is made up by the greater ability to overclock the "560 Ti", giving it an even larger performance advantage. The "560" does run a bit cooler, though. The "560" is still a good card. Not trying to trash it. I just think that its worth the extra $40 to get the "560 Ti". Just wanted people to understand the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephistofilus Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 For anyone shopping for video cards: A "GTX 560" is not the same as a "GTX 560 Ti". The "560" has 12% fewer cores and a significantly lower memory bandwidth. The "560 Ti" will noticeably outperform the "560", even at stock. The "560 Ti" does run at a lower clock speed than the "560", but this is made up by the greater ability to overclock the "560 Ti", giving it an even larger performance advantage. The "560" does run a bit cooler, though. The "560" is still a good card. Not trying to trash it. I just think that its worth the extra $40 to get the "560 Ti". Just wanted people to understand the difference. I can overclock this.... EVGA has a program to do so. Not sure if you were saying you cannot overclock the one I have. The core clock runs at 865 out of the box. Should I use the Precision software they have to overclock this sucker? Also.. I'm no pro at this... so what would be a safe numbers on core, shader, and memory, or can I max them and everything be safe as long as I use the fan settings to keep things running cool? Will this help me improve those frame rates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephistofilus Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 For anyone shopping for video cards: A "GTX 560" is not the same as a "GTX 560 Ti". The "560" has 12% fewer cores and a significantly lower memory bandwidth. The "560 Ti" will noticeably outperform the "560", even at stock. The "560 Ti" does run at a lower clock speed than the "560", but this is made up by the greater ability to overclock the "560 Ti", giving it an even larger performance advantage. The "560" does run a bit cooler, though. The "560" is still a good card. Not trying to trash it. I just think that its worth the extra $40 to get the "560 Ti". Just wanted people to understand the difference. Also... I have noticed there are quite a few different versions of the 560 even not as a "ti" Very odd how there are a vast number of different 560's out there AND different 560 "ti"'s. Hopefully mine is as good or as close to yours lol. Wanna check out the specs for me and tell me how you rate them side by side? I'd REALLY appreciate it... Here is the EXACT one I have: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/EVGA+-+GeForce+GTX+560+2GB+GDDR5+PCI+Express+2.0+Graphics+Card/3628108.p?id=1218421870828&skuId=3628108&st=evga&cp=1&lp=3 Specs tab at the bottom of the page. Also... about that overclocking question I had just now. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhuntly Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 I can overclock this.... EVGA has a program to do so. Not sure if you were saying you cannot overclock the one I have. The core clock runs at 865 out of the box. Should I use the Precision software they have to overclock this sucker? Also.. I'm no pro at this... so what would be a safe numbers on core, shader, and memory, or can I max them and everything be safe as long as I use the fan settings to keep things running cool? Will this help me improve those frame rates? Increase your core/shader clock 10mhz at a time Run heaven benchmarker If you see artifacts (blue diamonds) increase voltage Stop when you get driver error and go back to stable settings Don't copy someone elses oc it won't work most likely You can use their software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunwindIon Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Most people won't notice until the frame-rate drops under 30. The "under 60 is terrible" folks fall into one of two categories: - Experienceing a placebo effect from knowing the frame-rate, likely due to a conversation with someone from the second group. - A certain small portion of the population is actually able to notice frame-to-frame lag before 60 frames. After that, it's pretty much impossible. ITT: people who don't understand the difference between refresh rate and frame rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhuntly Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 This game DOES do odd things with hardware. I've got: Phenom II X4 @ 3.5 GHz 4GB DDR2 RAM EVGA Geforce 460 GTX 1GB It's rare I see anything below 60 fps, and very rare to see 40 or less. I don't PVP, but playing all the way to 50 in heroics and whatnot, it never stumbles. Even when Fleet is crowded it never drops from refresh rate at 60fps. More ram, overclock cpu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhuntly Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 ***... I am using a EVGA GeForce GTX 560. 2GB superclocked from the factory... Part number... evga 02G-P3-2069-KB Here's a link to the complete specs... http://www.bestbuy.com/site/EVGA+-+GeForce+GTX+560+2GB+GDDR5+PCI+Express+2.0+Graphics+Card/3628108.p?id=1218421870828&skuId=3628108&st=evga&cp=1&lp=3 I just bought this a couple of months ago and I was told it would run ANYTHING I threw at it smooth as butter. I am running a AMD Phenom II X4 925 Processor with 2.8G (Quad-Core) 8 Gigs of DDR3 SDRAM It is showing me hopping at 20s and 30s on Frames per second on Ilum at central. There is not any fighting going on right now so i wouldnt think it was REALLY bogged down. At the Imperial Fleet it is showing me at the 30's-40's on Frames per second. Really weird because once i get on another planet or something I can get into the 80-90's. Again I dont see or notice any skipping or anything at these frame rates... but I DO on ilum.. ESPECIALLY during battle. I have'nt had any kind of lag or skipping until I came to Ilum and I have kept my setttings on High for graphics. Do my frames per second seem bad? If so why am I getting this? What can I do to improve it? Thanks! You may want to overclock your CPU. Find someone with your same motherboard on google for guidance. Those processors can push Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhuntly Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 More ram, overclock cpu I meant gpu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdots Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I had a 2.2GHz amd phenom x4 and upgraded to a i5 2500k. The i5 rofl stomps this game. I also have an msi 560ti twinfrozer2/oc. I have all graphics settings maxed out besides aa is on low and get 100+ fps besides in illums major battles I bog down to about 40fps which is completely payable. That is due to the servers not the "bad code". I agree (I'm running the same setup, which I overclocked to a humble 4.5ghz). I have to assume that the people whining about major lag even on "super comps" either overrate their computers, or have some other problem bogging down their rig. Sometimes I dip down to 25 or so on Ilum (when we're talking 60+ people on screen), but even then it's very playable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daekarus Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I meant gpu. Actually I have. Not super-aggressively, imho, but by 150MHz. I might get a bit of improvement from more RAM but I'll never notice it. Not going to build another computer for another 2 years I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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