Nikatina Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Well if you are like me and you chosen the sith warrior, a jugg or marauder, for pvp, you have been tricked into the hype my friends. You would think that this class would be a Butt kicking class but in reality it is the worst class to pick for pve and pvp. My argument is not about on pve though, it's on pvp. I have a sith marauder full champion geared. I love my char, I put in a lot of work into him, I got all my datacrons too, even the +10 datacrons. So why is my char the worst in pvp if I have good gear and all datacrons?well ill let you know right not, i dont suck at pvp but for one we do very very lil DPS! yes we do have a rotation that can dish out 2-3 k but that rotations can be broken in a matter of seconds or a CC. Oh and I forgot to mention your possibility of missing your smash is very easy! and sometimes does not work! i would say you have a 50/50 chance on getting the smash dmg to work! but that is just for the rage spec, the other two spec in my opinion for pvp suck! I can go on and on, but then I would have to write a book, so a example of my low dps , for my warrior, would be when you are attacking a Trooper/bounty hunter(heavy Armor) or any healing spec wither it's a smuggler/or the opposite class , or inquisitor, or agent, you will run into this problem, where you can attack all you can! and cannot dish out enough DPS on the target to kill! reason why is because THE TARGET CAN HEAL FASTER THEN I YOU DPS! AND ATTACK ME AT THE SAME TIME! making the target invincible ! this sith marauder class is at so much of a disadvantage with medium armor and range already being a problem it is pretty useless for pvp...the healing spec should be nerfed or dps brought down alot! for these classes that can heal themselves, because i don't understand how my char can get beat but someone with these ability's when they are not even geared as high as I am! i can attack a assassin that is geared low, i can be chasing him down, and he can kill me because of my low range! he can just keep on running and attacking lil by lil my health goes down, this is BS... Sith Warriors are the worst for pvp most would agree, and yes it does matter how you play and if you are a good pvper or not, but i know my skill i may not be the best but im far from the worst! Something must be changed! make the warriors stronger or something i dont know but they suck where they are a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINALBOSS Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Nice wall of text. And if you're a marauder using Rage spec, you're doing it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSIlverSurfing Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 My son is amazing at playing his Jug, but they take a while to come into their own. Its kinda of like the Sniper class. They aren't very good, until they get Followthrough at level 30. Keep at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonTheImpaler Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Scoundrels have ranged problem too, and no Maruaders/Sentinals are one of the best PvP classes there is, I am a sawbones and am in no way invincible, we have one good casting heal and they can interrupt it easy. I do very little damage as a healer, and I mean VERY little. It's hard to fight and heal at the same, because our strongest move is done from behind the target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrain Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Here. The answer to all your woes as a Sith Warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPagano Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I love my juggernaut. They're a very strong class, and some juggs/mauraders in my guild top damage in most WZs. No offense, but you're probably doing it wrong. It's a hard class to play, and a lot of people came from arms warriors and enhancement shamans in wow expecting the same kind of face rolling rage train. Not here, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPagano Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Scoundrels have ranged problem too, and no Maruaders/Sentinals are one of the best PvP classes there is, I am a sawbones and am in no way invincible, we have one good casting heal and they can interrupt it easy. I do very little damage as a healer, and I mean VERY little. It's hard to fight and heal at the same, because our strongest move is done from behind the target I chuckled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidJustice Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) As a level 50 Guardian. I will just say I disagree. We are fine... We are an underwhelming but incredibly fun pvp class. When the nerfs settle out we will be balanced. Edited February 28, 2012 by VoidJustice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warkat Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 As a level 50 Guardian. I will just say I disagree. We are fine... We are an underwhelming but incredibly fun pvp class. When the nerfs settle out we will be balanced. underwhelming? we own huttball and we own warzones period...use AE taunt and regular taunt and render the person beatin on your healer useless while u get healed and destroy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoredOfMMOS Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 as a 50 marauder its an L2P issue you just legitimately cannot play your class. I do at least 400k per Decent warzone iv done 578k in my best game. Currently valor rank 58 (non ilum boosted) all champ gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vember Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Since my shadow is the only one i've gotten to 50, i'll speak from that perspective - Good annihilation marauders are scary, but I can usually beat them since I can cleanse the burn effects. Juggs, are barely worth bothering with..even the oft cried about one trick pony rage specs. I usually slap a taunt on em and move on to something more dangerous, or just ignore them if they're beating on me and kill that damn sorc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfreudHC Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 My Jug is level 14 and still manages to reliably get into top 3 damage done. Play smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWImara Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Here. The answer to all your woes as a Sith Warrior. Bravo to you sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountyhunterzzzz Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I hate to be "that guy" but L2P your playing the worst pvp spec and complaint about damage, I hit 50 on Friday by Sunday I had full cent gear 2 columi implants champ offhand and champ chest and as anni I'm pulling 300k average, I would love to have your gear, this begs the question are you a clicker? Because I've seen even full champ rage maras pull 400k plus..........I don't mean to be. Jerk but I'm tired of people complaining about this class, it has the highest skill level and gear requirements of any class I have 37 keybinds alone........I'm sorry my friend but respec and l2p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalmeseReb Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I can kill 2 people in a 3 vs 1 if I get lucky with crits and they stand in my force smash. I do not think my guardian is bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountyhunterzzzz Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Oh and as for not killing Healers? Lol a skilled anni marauder even carnage can dumpster a BM healer with ease...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dschlan Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 1. I'm guessing you have all the accuracy on your gear still. Lose it 2. If you think there's a set rotation, you're doing it WAY wrong. There's a priority system, not a rotation 3. Maybe you're just a straight up scrub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozith Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Oh and as for not killing Healers? Lol a skilled anni marauder even carnage can dumpster a BM healer with ease...... Yes, those DoT's hurt, but "with ease" is a little inaccurate. If you spam purge on yourself, all their DoT's vanish. Then a stun and a force sprint out of LoS later, and im full life. Rinse & repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramios Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Here. The answer to all your woes as a Sith Warrior. +1 I play an immortal juggernaut... And I love the class in pvp... I have a great time. I think Juggernauts/Guardians are fine... emphsis on the fact that it's my opinion on the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidJustice Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) underwhelming? we own huttball and we own warzones period...use AE taunt and regular taunt and render the person beatin on your healer useless while u get healed and destroy. I said we were fine. Compared to OP classes that are OP maybe not so much. In general fine thou. p.s. OP do not despair. Jedi Knights and Sith Warriors ARE HORRIBLE before level 30. We get pretty good by 40. By 49 we are gods. @50 we take one for the team like everyone else. 50+gear back to being gods. Edited February 28, 2012 by VoidJustice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwal Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I actually think they are the classes with the highest skill cap and the highest potential. Taking gear out of the equation and competant Sentinal can destroy anything 1v1 and most of their targets in group pvp(Illum doesn't count a group pvp because the fps lag makes them unplayable compared to range classes) Basically a Sentinal can destroy anything it chooses that doesn't have a healer on it, and most of them go for the healers the moment they spot them, mine is really low level but based on my Guard I can tell they are hard to play to their potential. I just know a few who are better players than me and they do amazing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmaista Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Yo i got a 50 marauder full champion and i quit because its bad. Tho id really like to point out that the talent tree and specc Advanced prototype ---> powertech is far worse than marauder. Its actually like marauder without charge and lightsabre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozith Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I premade with a jugg and 2 marauders all the time. They face roll games. Warrior is only broken for those of you expecting a bladestorm spamming arms warrior that crits for 30% of someone's life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallblind Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 I premade with a jugg and 2 marauders all the time. They face roll games. Warrior is only broken for those of you expecting a bladestorm spamming arms warrior that crits for 30% of someone's life I crit for more than 30% of someones life on my Jugg, just not with Bladestorm...more like Smashstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfVey Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 This is a l2p issue. Both flavors of warrior are extremely potent in the right player's hands at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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