Misinformed Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I still have not gotten one battlemaster commendation. I both pvp dailies and both the weekly's religiously. I may have missed 1 or 2 in 3 weeks and im yet to get a battlemaster commendation. the 25% drop rate is bullsh*t. I bet ive opened 25 bags and ive yet to get a single *********** battlemaster commendation, not 1. Let me see if the math is making sense. 25*.25 = 6.25 Im at a big *********** fat goose egg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PulseRazor Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Sorry about your luck, but these are RNG mechanics working as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misinformed Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Whats RNG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misinformed Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 and so theres some luck involved. and luck isnt a skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evuke Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Whats RNG? rng = random number generator every time you open a BM bag the server rolls you a RNG between 1 and 100. if you roll a 1-75 you get nothing, but if you roll a 76-100 you get a token. fail system is fail because it's based on luck/chance not skill Basically every single time you open a BM bag you have a 75% chance of getting nothing Edited February 27, 2012 by Evuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misinformed Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 is that RNG mine and mine only or is it based on the last number of people that got bags and opened them. And why the **** do my odds not increase after ive opened 10 damn bags with nothing to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evuke Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) is that RNG mine and mine only or is it based on the last number of people that got bags and opened them. And why the **** do my odds not increase after ive opened 10 damn bags with nothing to keep. it's not based on anything, it keeps no history, it doesn't care that you've got nothing in the past from 50 bags! It's a very simple system - every single time you open a bag you have a 75% chance of NOT getting a token. it's pure win really what they should have made is a system that did keep a history, the first bag is 10% chance, then 20%, then 30%, then 40%, then 50%, all the way up to 100%. So at the very least every 10 bags you get a commendation. Edited February 27, 2012 by Evuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MashTactics Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 They need to do to Battlemaster bags what they did to Champion, except it should take, on average, three times as long per piece of gear. That way, people would stop the ************ about RNG this, and RNG that. Because free gear isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzone Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 every time you open a BM bag the server rolls you a RNG between 1 and 100. if you roll a 1-75 you get nothing, but if you roll a 76-100 you get a token. Why not just roll 1-4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acyu Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 and so theres some luck involved. and luck isnt a skill. But getting 60V and doing weekly/daily is skill? HA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lascivar Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Why not just roll 1-4? 100 is the base number for percentages, which is basic math. People break things down easier when it's based on 100. eg. You could tell them that they're rolling 1-375 for no commendation, and 376-500 to gain one, but that's just being annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurugar Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Let me see if the math is making sense. 25*.25 = 6.25 I doubt that math is making sense, because it's wrong in every possible way. What you're looking for is .75^25 i.e. the chance of not getting a bag (75%) 25 times in succession (^25). RNG does not smile upon people who do not understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancerc Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 i can relate with you, not as extreme as you but ive opened 9 bm bags and haven't received a token, starting to question the 25% chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acindo Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I only ever hear the bad stories. Where is the guy who must be at 20/20? He has to be somewhere! The last 7 bags I opened had no comm. I'm now 10/27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digtahk Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I have also been a BM for 3 weeks, I have both weapons, helm, chest, legs and belt......system is working nicely keep up the good work Bioware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danyl Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) I doubt that math is making sense, because it's wrong in every possible way. What you're looking for is .75^25 i.e. the chance of not getting a bag (75%) 25 times in succession (^25). RNG does not smile upon people who do not understand it.25*.25 would give you the average number of commendations obtained over 25 tries, which is a reasonable calculation to make in this situation. Honestly your calculation is hardly even helpful to the point he's making. You're just splitting hairs for the sake of being a math snob. At the OP, bad RNG is bad RNG. If you don't like RNG loot perhaps MMOs are not for you? I got an 0/20 BM bag streak but you don't see me ************. Edited February 27, 2012 by Danyl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nishifumi Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I doubt that math is making sense, because it's wrong in every possible way. What you're looking for is .75^25 i.e. the chance of not getting a bag (75%) 25 times in succession (^25). RNG does not smile upon people who do not understand it. Your odds of opening 25 bags and getting no BM comm if the percent droprate is 25 percent is approximately .075 percent. Not 7.5 percent. .075 percent. Or 7.5 in 10000. Or 1 in 1334. I had some similar bad luck recently. Not sure what the deal is but it could just be bad luck and it might even out over time. I've had lucky streaks too of 3 comms in 4 bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poulpatine Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Had bad droprates has well (clearly way less than 25%) and now that i'm full bm i get one commendation in EVERY bag i open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danyl Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Your odds of opening 25 bags and getting no BM comm if the percent droprate is 25 percent is approximately .075 percent. Not 7.5 percent. .075 percent. Or 7.5 in 10000. Or 1 in 1334. I had some similar bad luck recently. Not sure what the deal is but it could just be bad luck and it might even out over time. I've had lucky streaks too of 3 comms in 4 bags..75^25=.075% What are you trying to say, exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adzzy Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) i've gotten 7 in my last 8 bags, and i've been giving my companions bm light sabers and armor....atm i'm decking Xalek out in full dps gear for use with a presence stim for pokemon battles.... And it took me a week to get the last token to complete my bm set a few weeks back. Such is rng. Edited February 27, 2012 by Adzzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imazhero Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I've been BM for about a week or so, maybe more and have gotten 6 BM comms. The RNG Gods must hate you. But I guess those low probabilities have to go to someone huh? Sorry mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSalt Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I apologize to the guy who has gotten 0/20. its my fault. I'm running a near perfect 50% 14 bags. 7 Comms. Random bag is random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolmea Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Im on 3 out for 30 bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomasmpe Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 0 of 5 atm but i keep my positive attitude that is important! Good luck to everybody! well not for imps:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZDProletariat Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 The main problem is the vast majority of people haven't actually been keeping count of the bags, they just estimate. The longer they've been BM, the less likely they have an accurate count of the bags they've opened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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