Bosis Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 More marauder pov's up for HM ops Hard mode Bonethrasher (stupid fight i hate it) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8C7r4wr2oo&feature=youtu.be Hard mode Soa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK-WObFaWL0 im no pro but feel free to check out how we do the fight from melee PoV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse- Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) I'm disappointed. There's something that makes Watchman/Annihilation overpowered in the Bonethrasher fight that you've completely missed. Something that makes bringing and coordinating 2-3 sentinels absolutely trivialize the fight. No, I'm not talking about Pacify/Obfuscate, they barely did anything to him pre-nerf anyways. I'll just leave it at that. Actually, I'll add that you can see it in the video. Edited February 27, 2012 by Apocalypse- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinent Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I'm disappointed. There's something that makes Watchman/Annihilation overpowered in the Bonethrasher fight that you've completely missed. Something that makes bringing and coordinating 2-3 sentinels absolutely trivialize the fight. No, I'm not talking about Pacify/Obfuscate, they barely did anything to him pre-nerf anyways. I'll just leave it at that. Actually, I'll add that you can see it in the video. Been pondering this, could you please elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedJediKnight Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 It's pretty simple to deduce what he means. What is unique to the watchman tree that also affect group? Burn heals and/or Transcendence buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaugrimTyk Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 If your group isn't having problems with dps & enrage timer it is a great help to use transendance speed buff everytime it's up. The boss is all about positioning and quick movement after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunte Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) A tip: use force camoflague when he does the cleave instead of trying to dump aggro with it, i assume you have specced to give 4 secs of invulnerability when using it which means that as long as it is off CD you want (as a sentinel/maruader) bonetrasher to go for you since you can ignore his most damaging attack. As far as transcendence goes i dont see the point in this fight, proper position basically means: dont stand to close to the edge. Other than that you just stop moving whenever he comes for you. Edited February 27, 2012 by gunte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse- Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 It's pretty simple to deduce what he means. What is unique to the watchman tree that also affect group? Burn heals and/or Transcendence buff. Nope. Not extremely far off, but nope. Watch the video closely, there's a definite "if A, then B" situation that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosis Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) yeah the speed +10% avoidance is nothing compared to 15% bonus damage done to the raid. We tried it on cooldown and it wasnt worth it. Camo could have been used a lil better. its an older clip. so ill use that as an excuse. anyways hoping to get some good nightmare clips up this week if i get the time. aside from the obvious Soa and Bonethrasher What fights are people interested in seeing? Edited February 27, 2012 by Bosis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse- Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Oh fine, I'll throw the bone out there. Bonethrasher IS, I repeat IS, tankable by sentinels/maruaders. So I'll amend my earlier statement, "If A, then Bonethrasher attacks the Sentinel/Marauder." Edited February 27, 2012 by Apocalypse- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaugrimTyk Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Oh fine, I'll throw the bone out there. Bonethrasher IS, I repeat IS, tankable by sentinels/maruaders. So I'll amend my earlier statement, "If A, then Bonethrasher attacks the Sentinel/Marauder." It's not tankable if he randomly chooses targets to stomp/cleave on but I suppose you want the following answer, use defensive cooldowns in which case every class can tank it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse- Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 It's not tankable if he randomly chooses targets to stomp/cleave on but I suppose you want the following answer, use defensive cooldowns in which case every class can tank it! Incorrect. A sent/mara can force himself to be the selection. That's what I'm talking about. It's a bug, but this skill doesn't taunt on any other fight, least not that I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosis Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) well then elaborate ive never heard of it and i love to give it a try. would definitly make the fight easier. and Bioware cant even be mad because they have broken more encounters than players have. Edited February 27, 2012 by Bosis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaugrimTyk Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 ah, had not heard of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosis Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) if you dont want it on here email it to me because i have 0 abilities that force a target on me from my knowledge. Edited February 27, 2012 by Bosis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse- Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Rule of thumb, I wouldn't post your email directly on the forums. Watch the video, you can see it happen. Just gotta figure out what you're looking for. You know the result, where's the trigger? Like I said, this skill does not behave this way in any other fight that I've seen. Edited February 27, 2012 by Apocalypse- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosis Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 seriously this is starting to sound like a GIANT troll fest. if you have some input and help for people i have no idea why your not just putting it down. It doesn't make you better it just makes you annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse- Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 seriously this is starting to sound like a GIANT troll fest. if you have some input and help for people i have no idea why your not just putting it down. It doesn't make you better it just makes you annoying. I figured out something rather major on my own, so I'm having fun with it. Check your PM, and lets let the rest of the forum have fun trying to figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosis Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 ill take a look. you could just be noticing lucky rng for that but definitly worth testing it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunte Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) I figured out something rather major on my own, so I'm having fun with it. Check your PM, and lets let the rest of the forum have fun trying to figure it out. I honestly dont think ANYONE (maybe one) will try to figure it out, but if it makes you feel special go ahead and believe that thousands of people are now desperately searching for the answer we would all pay the ultimate price to find. no... Edited February 27, 2012 by gunte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosis Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 sorry apoc i agree to the sharing of this kinda stuff. Watch what happens every time you use Zen/Beserk and the first auto-crits hit. It's not a threat thing, because I can do it immediately after being knocked back. -Apoc ill take a look when i get home. check it out. could be just an rng thing or the boss is broken even more lol and if it works. 2x marauder would make the fight nice and clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantsOn Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 sorry apoc i agree to the sharing of this kinda stuff. Watch what happens every time you use Zen/Beserk and the first auto-crits hit. It's not a threat thing, because I can do it immediately after being knocked back. -Apoc ill take a look when i get home. check it out. could be just an rng thing or the boss is broken even more lol and if it works. 2x marauder would make the fight nice and clean. Holy ****, that's why I've been getting WTFpwned since switching to Watchman? I thought it was just stupid RNG *********** me. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse- Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) sorry apoc i agree to the sharing of this kinda stuff. Watch what happens every time you use Zen/Beserk and the first auto-crits hit. It's not a threat thing, because I can do it immediately after being knocked back. -Apoc ill take a look when i get home. check it out. could be just an rng thing or the boss is broken even more lol and if it works. 2x marauder would make the fight nice and clean. Your man card, it's expired. And if it's just RNG, you're hitting it too, and I hit it 9/9 times on last week's kill. A few weeks ago I noticed I had extremely high face-time with him, but couldn't figure out why. 2 weeks ago my eyes widened when I caused him to spin-hit the entire group by using Zen while he was winding up, and the rest of the fight I thought every Zen was getting me aggro. This last week, I actively paid attention and stood only with the tank next to me. I went 9/9, with one attempt only lasting a couple seconds because he knocked me back before Zen was even spent out. Edited February 27, 2012 by Apocalypse- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosis Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 yeah got a chance to look at my vid. definitly noticing hes hoping on me i think i saw one where he didnt. but still very interesting. and sorrry man i like to share. my mommy would be so proud. ill definityly upload another clip with this as the strat and we can get a better look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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