Elarion Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I have read several times that you will be able to crit Orange quality gear in an upcoming patch. Combined with being able to remove all the mods from raiding/PVP armor will this be the death of world drops? Just seems that all this will do is make crit, crafted gear must haves for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abanoth Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Point of orange gear is to keep an outfit you think looks cool regardless of how far you've progressed. Edited February 26, 2012 by Abanoth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Therrak Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 If you min/max, then yes orange world drops will be obsolete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymaniac Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 To me, it seems like the point of Orange gear is just for looks. You can customize orange gear with your choice of mods and stuff. And with 1.2 apparently, you can customize orang gear to be just as good as endgame gear. So, no. orange gear is never obsolete. Not even orange gear you get at lv10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elarion Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Point of orange gear is to keep an outfit you think looks cool regardless of how far you've progressed. Yet everyone walks around in Rakattaki/battle master gear at 50 now because it's better. If orange crafted gear takes that place we will have slightly more variety but at 50, for end game purposes, everyone will want critted orange gear, not the world drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymaniac Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Yet everyone walks around in Rakattaki/battle master gear at 50 now because it's better. If orange crafted gear takes that place we will have slightly more variety but at 50, for end game purposes, everyone will want critted orange gear, not the world drops. Well right now they do so, because you can't remove all the mods and set bonuses from those pieces of gear and transfer to orange gear. With 1.2, supposedly we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abanoth Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Well right now they do so, because you can't remove all the mods and set bonuses from those pieces of gear and transfer to orange gear. With 1.2, supposedly we can. I hope so. Actually getting to upgrade and keep using the old gear you've grown fond of instead of slapping it into an appearance tab is one of the most appealing things to me in this game. Yeah this will be horribly broken prompting knee-jerk overcorrection, but then what isn't? Can't wait till the first "I tried to snipe a new 50 and it turned out he was a modded BM" QQ thread. Edited February 26, 2012 by Abanoth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knewt Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 If you min/max, then yes orange world drops will be obsolete. This. The min/max crowd will heavily desire augment slots in all possible gear slots. Fortunately, many people will still buy world drop orange gear because it is the look they want and they aren't as concerned with min/max for that character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymaniac Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Yeah hehe. I dunno why we couldn't just get an appearance tab system like in LotrO. The mod system is needlessly confusing. I guess it creates a crafting profession and more items to hunt for in the game though, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elarion Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Well right now they do so, because you can't remove all the mods and set bonuses from those pieces of gear and transfer to orange gear. With 1.2, supposedly we can. If you aren't aware though 1.2 will also allow Armormechs and Synthweavers to critically craft orange gear which will add an augment slot to it. My whole point is that rather than greatly open up the variety of orange gear we can wear all that it does is limit us min/maxers to a few craftable options vs the rakata/PVP gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymaniac Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) If you aren't aware though 1.2 will also allow Armormechs and Synthweavers to critically craft orange gear which will add an augment slot to it. My whole point is that rather than greatly open up the variety of orange gear we can wear all that it does is limit us min/maxers to a few craftable options vs the rakata/PVP gear. Well thats dumb then. *sigh* Edit: Maybe we could get augment attachments or something as well then? That we can attach to looted or quest reward orange gear to add an augment slot? Eh Bioware? Edited February 26, 2012 by Claymaniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illgot Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Once they allow crits on orange gear all other gear will become obsolete. And the sad thing is most crafters will just craft the cheapest and lowest level orange gear for crits. Some may attempt the higher level orange gear that looks good, but not many. Why the cheapest and lowest level? 1) because low level materials will be easier to obtain. Low level crew missions have short timers and the ability to quickly farm and gather low level materials from the world. 2) people will want to gear up their alts faster with orange crit gear. This means that only one set of orange crit gear will be needed their whole game life. If they want later, the players can look for another set of orange crit gear for looks when they can afford it. 3) the lower the level the greater your market. Because not everyone is 50 yet. My hope is they either allow us to add augment slots to all gear and make all gear modable (white, green, blue) or add an appearance tab. Edited February 26, 2012 by illgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illyean Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 haven't seen anything definitive on the new orange gear, it sounds like it will be possible to crit craft some with an aug slot, for sure everyone will want it with an aug slot, +28stat per item with aug is a lot to not have. As I understand from what I have read end game gear will now allow you to remove the armour mod as well as mod and enhancement, the armor mod will transfer the set bonus/expertise and only be placeable in an equivalent sot (chest to chest). The aug slot thing is already in game, crit crafted items get an aug slot, it may be something that is far too rare to be of any consequence though, don't think I have ever seen an orange item with an aug slot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunwindIon Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I have read several times that you will be able to crit Orange quality gear in an upcoming patch. Combined with being able to remove all the mods from raiding/PVP armor will this be the death of world drops? Just seems that all this will do is make crit, crafted gear must haves for everyone. does anybody else find it hilarious that the first 5-6 people to reply to the thread completely ignored what the OP said and just went off on their own little rant about orange gear? people on this forum can be braindead sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kheld Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I have lost all faith in Bioware, all they seem to be doing is trying to reinvent the wheel & designing square ones. Orange moddable gear without the Augment slot becomes inferior & pretty much worthless to the gear-is-all crowd. Raid leaders will be insisiting on the Augment slots as standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elarion Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 I have lost all faith in Bioware, all they seem to be doing is trying to reinvent the wheel & designing square ones. Orange moddable gear without the Augment slot becomes inferior & pretty much worthless to the gear-is-all crowd. Raid leaders will be insisiting on the Augment slots as standard. Also will make Armormech and Synthweaving serious cash cows. As mentioned earlier, even low level orange gear with augments will sell for stupid amounts of credits. Funnily enough belt and bracers will still be useless as you won't be able to remove any armor mods to use in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goretzu Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) To me, it seems like the point of Orange gear is just for looks. You can customize orange gear with your choice of mods and stuff. And with 1.2 apparently, you can customize orang gear to be just as good as endgame gear. So, no. orange gear is never obsolete. Not even orange gear you get at lv10. You won't be able to augment non-crit crafted gear, so yes. This is why I think you should be able to add augments to orange gear somehow (perhaps with a crafted addon). Edited February 27, 2012 by Goretzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormie_sarge Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 one little change and they make more less all profs worthwhile, while encourageing people to get mats from all different level. Yes I think that this will be a good patch overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurfer Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Nah it won't... Face rolling HM Ops and FPs now with my orange gear since I won't wear the level 50 PvP/PvE gear designed by *******. Only reason we are not rolling nightmare is because there really is no extra benefit worth the time/risk. I don't see how the patch will make my situation "worse" at least I get to enjoy set bonuses now. Edited February 27, 2012 by Kurfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baelish Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Is world drop orange stuff not already "obsolete" because the Ops purples are better than any fully moddable stuff. The changes will mean that non-crit orange stuff, whether world drop or manufactured will become equivalent to the current BiS, because all the benefits of the BiS purples will be transferrable. In addition, there will be the chance for crafters to make something that's actually worthwhile at end game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMBender Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) As a side note kinda related; alot of QQ could be avoided if armortech could craft an augment applier for med/hvy orange armor only, while synth could craft one for light orange only. Crafter makes; puts up on AH; some buys the thingy; applies to orange gear viola. Would help both AT and SW ,even Armstech without trivializing pre existing gear looks. Edited February 27, 2012 by BMBender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genesiser Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 It'll be funny how people complained all lvl 50s looked the same because they had to wear their tier gear or pvp gear because there were no mods for the orange gear. Now people will complain because everyone, not just 50s, but everyone will be wearing the low level crafted orange gear with an augment slot. I really don't know how they can't see this change will make all gear that isn't orange with an augment slot (pretty much all gear) non existent and this game will now be clone wars for real. Either add appearance tab, let augments be put on all gear, not just augment slotted gear, or allow professions to add augment slots to certain types of gear. Because without one of those solutions they destroyed 95% of the gear in the game and everyone will be wearing low level crafted crit gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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