Harnessed Shadows under 3 stacks not working?

[allexj]

im kill stuff and useing the buff before i get a stack of 3 and i get no healing at all but at 3 stacks i get 357 healing, also i just tested it again at 2 stacks i got 1 tick of 357

 

again and only 2 ticks

Edited February 26, 2012 by allexj

[WiseStranger]

im kill stuff and useing the buff before i get a stack of 3 and i get no healing at all but at 3 stacks i get 357 healing, also i just tested it again at 2 stacks i got 1 tick of 357

 

again and only 2 ticks

 

My understanding that you don't know why you don't get heal from 1 or 2 stacks of Harnessed Shadows buff when you use Telekinetic Throw, but from time to time you get 1 heal at the beginning when you use the skill regardless if you have Harnessed Shadows buff or not.

 

If I am correct in understanding your question, careful examination of information about Combat Technique and the actual Harnessed Shadows talent reveals following:

 

1 You don't get a heal from using Telekinetic Throw unless you have 3 stacks of Harnessed Shadows.

 

2 Your Combat Technique has 50-65% chance to heal you when you deal damage with your attacks.

[allexj]

My understanding that you don't know why you don't get heal from 1 or 2 stacks of Harnessed Shadows buff when you use Telekinetic Throw, but from time to time you get 1 heal at the beginning when you use the skill regardless if you have Harnessed Shadows buff or not.

 

If I am correct in understanding your question, careful examination of information about Combat Technique and the actual Harnessed Shadows talent reveals following:

 

1 You don't get a heal from using Telekinetic Throw unless you have 3 stacks of Harnessed Shadows.

 

2 Your Combat Technique has 50-65% chance to heal you when you deal damage with your attacks.

 

yes, like when i have 3 stacks of shadows il get the 357 heal like 6 times in a row howerver if i have 2 or lower stacks its only give me a maxim of 2 heals for 357. and i know that combat teq give u health every 4 secs and the the thro only last for 3 secs there 4 its cant be that.

[WiseStranger]

yes, like when i have 3 stacks of shadows il get the 357 heal like 6 times in a row howerver if i have 2 or lower stacks its only give me a maxim of 2 heals for 357. and i know that combat teq give u health every 4 secs and the the thro only last for 3 secs there 4 its cant be that.

 

By utilizing amazing power of observation you learn following:

 

1 Telekinetic Throw deals damage over 4 attacks.

 

2 Battle Readiness allows your Combat technique to apply it's effect more often.

 

 

And here is the possible situation:

 

1 You gain 3 stacks of Harnessed Shadows.

 

2 You activate Battle Readiness

 

3 You activate Telekinetic Throw.

 

4 On first damage TT deals your Combat Technique procs 1st heal

 

5 You get 4 heals from TT for each attack.

 

6 Last attack is on the last second and it procs your Combat Technique Heal.

[allexj]

By utilizing amazing power of observation you learn following:

 

1 Telekinetic Throw deals damage over 4 attacks.

 

2 Battle Readiness allows your Combat technique to apply it's effect more often.

 

 

And here is the possible situation:

 

1 You gain 3 stacks of Harnessed Shadows.

 

2 You activate Battle Readiness

 

3 You activate Telekinetic Throw.

 

4 On first damage TT deals your Combat Technique procs 1st heal

 

5 You get 4 heals from TT for each attack.

 

6 Last attack is on the last second and it procs your Combat Technique Heal.

 

fyi im only lvl 46 so no i dont have battle, and two u should only get 3 from throw( heal for 3 % every secnd) and 1 from combat teq. again fyi i wanted to know why i cant get 6 heals with 2 stack or less that is the one im wondering about not the 6 heals.

Edited February 26, 2012 by allexj

[heinywb]

TT only heals with 3 stacks of hs, not 2 not 1

[WiseStranger]

fyi im only lvl 46 so no i dont have battle, and two u should only get 3 from throw( heal for 3 % every secnd) and 1 from combat teq. again fyi i wanted to know why i cant get 6 heals with 2 stack or less that is the one im wondering about not the 6 heals.

 

By using read description ability you can find following:

 

1 Harnessed Shadows talent states that this buff makes your TT uninterruptible and increases damage by 25% per stack. Once you reach 3 stacks of Harnessed Shadows, your TT will heal you 3% of your maximum health per tick (Please, pay attention to the word tick. 1 tick not equal to 1 second)

 

2 TT skill does not contain in it's description how many times it ticks over the channel duration, which is 3 seconds by default. It's your assumption that 3 seconds translate into 3 ticks and if you paid attention to the game you would have noticed that it has 4 ticks.

Edited February 26, 2012 by WiseStranger

[sollinton]

^ What they said.

 

+1 for reading tooltips before running to the forums.

 

The heals you are seeing from not having 3 stacks of Harnessed Shadows are coming from your Combat Technique procs.

 

• 1 stack of Harnessed Shadows = 0 healing from TK Throw directly
  
• 2 stacks of Harnessed Shadows = 0 healing from TK Throw directly
  
• 3 stacks of Harnessed Shadows = 3% health/TICK from TK Throw
  

TK Throw channels for 3 seconds but deals damage immediately upon activation. Lets look a little closer at what happens while channeling TK Throw with 3 stacks of Harnessed Shadows:

• 0s: First tick of damage, 3% heal
  
• 1s: Second tick of damage, 3% heal
  
• 2s: Third tick of damage, 3% heal
  
• 3s: Fourth tick of damage, 3% heal
  

That totals 4 ticks of damage and 12% healing.

 

Reading is fun!

Edited February 26, 2012 by sollinton

[allexj]

By using read description ability you can find following:

 

1 Harnessed Shadows talent states that this buff makes your TT uninterruptible and increases damage by 25% per stack. Once you reach 3 stacks of Harnessed Shadows, your TT will heal you 3% of your maximum health per tick (Please, pay attention to the word tick. 1 tick not equal to 1 second)

 

2 TT skill does not contain in it's description how many times it ticks over the channel duration, which is 3 seconds by default. It's your assumption that 3 seconds translate into 3 ticks and if you paid attention to the game you would have noticed that it has 4 ticks.

 

ok the tool tips say that u can stack each shadow up to 3 times at 3 stacks u can heal 3% of ur health so if we infer each shadow = 1% up to 3= 3% so we should still be healing for 1% at one stack and so on

[Sacull]

perhaps a slight rewording to "once at 3 stacks it heals 3% each tick."

[sollinton]

ok the tool tips say that u can stack each shadow up to 3 times at 3 stacks u can heal 3% of ur health so if we infer each shadow = 1% up to 3= 3% so we should still be healing for 1% at one stack and so on

 

Read the tooltip again dude.

 

Project and Slow Time have a 100% chance to grant Harnessed Shadows, which makes the next Telekinetic Throw used uninterruptible and immune to puchback. In addiition, each stack increases the damage dealt by your next Telekinetic Throw by 25%. Stacks up to 3 times. At 3 stacks, each tick of Telekinetic Throw heals you for 3% of your maximum health.

At 3 stacks, each tick of Telekinetic Throw heals you for 3% of your maximum health.

At 3 stacks...

AT 3 stacks does not mean it gets progressively stronger as you build UP TO 3 stacks. It means AT 3 stacks you get the heal.

 

If this does not make sense to you then a lesson in grammar is needed because there is no room for opinion or speculation here. The syntax of the sentence makes it 100% clear that healing does not take place prior to 3 stacks.

 

Once again, +1 for reading...

Edited February 26, 2012 by sollinton

[GFreeGamer]

ok the tool tips say that u can stack each shadow up to 3 times at 3 stacks u can heal 3% of ur health so if we infer each shadow = 1% up to 3= 3% so we should still be healing for 1% at one stack and so on

 

Project and Slow Time have a [50 / 100]% chance to grant Harnessed Shadows, which makes the next Telekinetic Throw used uninterruptible and immune to pushback. In addition, each stack increases the damage dealt by your next Telekinetic Throw by 25%. Stacks up to 3 times. At 3 stacks, each tick of Telekinetic Throw heals you for 3% of your maximum health.

 

Nothing is said about healing at all until 3 stacks are met. It's 0% at 1/2 Stacks.

 

The stacks do nothing at 1/2 except make it uninterruptable and immune to pushback.