Chrisbox Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I think the past 20-30 bags I've opened haven't had anything....anyone else convinced there is no drop rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestunhi Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Item drop rate was lowered when comms were added to all bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malevs Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 i've gotten 2 belt tokens in the last couple days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MashTactics Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 It's not 0%. Just really, really low. I prefer it this way. Gives PvP tiering a sense of progress instead of it being you as the RNG's *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syntxerr Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I opened around 20 bags in the past 10 days or so and yep, I didn't get one token. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valfodr Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I have not gotten a single token with all of my bags. I have champion MH, OH, body, helm, legs, feet, implantx2 from tokens though. Conversely, my friend has gotten 4 tokens in about half as many bags. He's an ******e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalmeseReb Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Ive gotten 1 drop since the changes, and that was today. valor rank 44-59. 1 drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuorEarfalas Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 The champ bag system is good. VERY GOOD. Not being sarcastic, the current system is what we demanded and how it should be. Tokens should be considered as a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacerunner Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 The drop is definitely not 0%. After the patch I was saving up my 123 champ commsfor the Vindicator Lightsaber. Right after I reached 123 and bought my LS, the next champion bag dropped an Unassembled Main Hand Weapon. So that got my the War Leader Lightsaber also. The drop rate is still there, just hope you don't get really unlucky and get the duplicate drop for the most expensive champion item like I did. Overall I still like getting items from champ commendations rather than a RNG drop that if it even occurs can be utterly useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasstavad Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I wish the BM system was the same... just wait until valor 60 before you start freaking over how the Champions bags work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekeiele Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 The champ bag system is good. VERY GOOD. Not being sarcastic, the current system is what we demanded and how it should be. Tokens should be considered as a bonus. I've gotten 1 in 30...if I had to guess its at 5%...but I've been able to get my gear with the Comms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwKwarrd Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Should be getting 1 in about 20 bags thats my experience so far To get 20 bags you will need: 12000 warzone coms, to buy the needed merc coms 4000 warzone coms, needed to buy the bags after you have enough merc coms TOTAL=16000 warzone coms 600 warzone coms = 200 merc coms 1 champ bag = 200/200 merc/warzone com each game is around 15mins, not including the loading time to the game, and the 2mins of waiting before the game starts. so 17-20mins per game (unless its huttball with a team that will score 6 times in a few mins) (these hours are scaled on 15min games, not including the loading times and the waiting time, and assuming the huttballs last 15mins) wins = 90ish warzone coms (360 warzone coms per hour) - every 45 hours of pvp, you will get 20 bags loss = 50ish warzone coms (200 warzone coms per hour) - every 80 hours of pvp, you will get 20 bags If you played 24/7 without a break, this is what you would get Edited February 26, 2012 by AwKwarrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kayko_ Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I just did some approximation math to figure out how many more warzones I will need to get a full Champion set via 200/200 bags. I currently have my main hand and 150 comms saved up. I am looking at approx 600 more warzones in order to get enough comms in order to go full champ. Just for the fun of it, I tried to figure out what that will be in Valor and it turns out, the total value of valor gained would be worth going from 0 to 60. Starting from scratch at lvl 50 entering your first warzone, you will be in the area of rank 64 by the time you have enough comms via Champion bags to get a Champion set. It literally takes that long to get a Champ set now, it is BY FAR faster and much less stressful to get even the best endgame items which in PvP, turns out to be fairly on par due to the health and stat increases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ycat Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 i got champ boots today. first item in bag ever. i think its been about 20 bags or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuraikoto Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) 0/40 I'm not sure if I'll get a token before I start leveling another character to gear out of frustration from glitched abilities. Anyways, I don't loathe pvp at 50 now that I've been able to get full centurion and some champ pieces. *edit* I considered getting endgame PvE gear before doing any warzones at 50 on my next character I PvP with... might make getting the gear more enjoyable. Edited February 26, 2012 by Kuraikoto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwKwarrd Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 well then you wont like knowing that the Rakata pieces.. are better in pvp you only need 9% exp, well 9.50%, anything over 10% is a nerf unfortunately. where is Rakata has no exp.. and gives you more stats.. tanks in general who run full rakata in pvp are almost unkillable, like 22k+ hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furiousferret Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Not sure where I'm at but I'm almost full Champ and haven't had a single drop. My guess is somewhere around 75 bags and nothing. Now that I'm almost there it doesn't bother me but it is a messed up system that some have to work alot harder than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Kayko_ Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Not sure where I'm at but I'm almost full Champ and haven't had a single drop. My guess is somewhere around 75 bags and nothing. Now that I'm almost there it doesn't bother me but it is a messed up system that some have to work alot harder than others. It is 107 Champion bags with no tokens to get a full set of gear. At an average of 7 medals per warzone, you are looking at somewhere in the range of 900-950 warzones to get those bags via 200/200 alone. I currently average about 6 medals across all warzones and 1300 valor per win (my original approximation math was wrong, you will be able to rank from 0 to about 66 before you get a full set of Champion). Being rank 54 right now, I'm looking at rank 70 or 71 before I get enough comms to get a full set of champion gear with factoring in 15 per BM bag. Either the drop rate of the tokens needs to be increased, cost of items reduced, or increase in Warzone comms for each one. If you want the PvP gear, you have no other choice at this point other then doing both warzone and Ilum dailys every single day for over a month straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctournys Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I just did some approximation math to figure out how many more warzones I will need to get a full Champion set via 200/200 bags. I currently have my main hand and 150 comms saved up. I am looking at approx 600 more warzones in order to get enough comms in order to go full champ. Just for the fun of it, I tried to figure out what that will be in Valor and it turns out, the total value of valor gained would be worth going from 0 to 60. Starting from scratch at lvl 50 entering your first warzone, you will be in the area of rank 64 by the time you have enough comms via Champion bags to get a Champion set. It literally takes that long to get a Champ set now, it is BY FAR faster and much less stressful to get even the best endgame items which in PvP, turns out to be fairly on par due to the health and stat increases. You apparently dont take the daily or weekly quests which will give you 20 more bags a week - 140 more champ commendations (2 pieces of gear) - completely separate from any bags you buy with commendations. Bad math is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctournys Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 If you want the PvP gear, you have no other choice at this point other then doing both warzone and Ilum dailys every single day for over a month straight. A whole entire month (of 30-60min/day or less) for gear that will be current for six+ months?! HOLY CRAP THE AGONY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwKwarrd Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Its one massive grind fest.. and your looking at months of it.. maybe depending on if you win or not. and then they will add new gear where you need rank 70 valor.. and so on.. and up and up.. meanwhile 10% expertise is softcap and anything over it and your nerfed.. and will need to substitute rakata gear for pvp gear... even tho yer pvping... srsly flawed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noexqss Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I've got a token for a lightsaber last night....wasn't expecting it but hey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctournys Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Its one massive grind fest.. and your looking at months of it.. maybe depending on if you win or not. and then they will add new gear where you need rank 70 valor.. and so on.. and up and up.. meanwhile 10% expertise is softcap and anything over it and your nerfed.. and will need to substitute rakata gear for pvp gear... even tho yer pvping... srsly flawed The (ignorant) assumption that you should somehow be able to ignore any aspect of the game you dont like and still be entitled to do exactly as well as someone who plays all aspects of the game is.. really, really tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuWyrldDave Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 My drop rate before the patch was horrendous, so I haven't noticed a change in frequency. But since we get more than just 3 cent coms now per bag I have been able to get all of my Champ gear with plenty of cent coms to buy gear for my companions. I like the new system as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwKwarrd Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 The (ignorant) assumption that you should somehow be able to ignore any aspect of the game you dont like and still be entitled to do exactly as well as someone who plays all aspects of the game is.. really, really tired. Im sorry, do you think we should be needing pve gear in pvp? Do you think that PVE and PVP should be used together? Like PVE with PVP gear? and PVP with PVE gear? Not entirely sure what your trying to point out. You think that someone full Rakata should be able to top the scoreboard in pvp with 0% exp? or You think people should be doing endgame hardmodes in full Battlemaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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