LeonBraun Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Last week I played TERA closed Beta on my $500 laptop... Let me tell you... It was stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gungan Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) Last week I played TERA closed Beta on my $500 laptop... Let me tell you... It was stunning. Yup. Hi rez texture pack wasn't even in last week too. That being said, Unreal 3 engine wins every time. Edited February 20, 2012 by Gungan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malastare Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Okay... For those of you who don't actually build computers: $5000 is an utter waste of money, if you're looking for actual capabilities. Paying more for hardware gives you rapidly decreasing returns. At about $1500, you're buying top-of-the-line hardware for a single widescreen display. Paying $500, $1000, or $3500 more won't get you any noticeable improvements. After about $1500, you only buy bells, whistles, and conveniences. He's got three displays. That's the only reason he needs dual 590's. On a single display, there's no gain. The rest of the stuff he's got is just not worth it. Simply stated: It's not a beast of a computer, it's a beast of a price. It's really just a i7-2600k with enough RAM. Any other i7 with 8GB of DDR3-1333 and a true gaming video card is going to have similar performance. If you think that adding on everything else he's got is going to improve performance.... then you're just the sort of person that he's selling to. (Note: In truth, the $5000 might be based on labor and aesthetics. There is value in appearance, efficiency, and silence) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathDeathDie Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 the cards alone are 1200 to 1400 hundred bucks . with that said SLI 590 gtx does not yield anymore FPS then my single 590 gtx . in all honesty Bioware has a **** load of work to do. Your very wrong when it comes to pricing you can buy a Single 590 GTX for 680-750$'s a 6990 for the same price range if that guy who supposedly builds custom computers paid that much for his GTX 590's then I call BS on the whole thing not his performance but that he built that computer himself for 5 grand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathDeathDie Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Okay... For those of you who don't actually build computers: $5000 is an utter waste of money, if you're looking for actual capabilities. Paying more for hardware gives you rapidly decreasing returns. At about $1500, you're buying top-of-the-line hardware for a single widescreen display. Paying $500, $1000, or $3500 more won't get you any noticeable improvements. After about $1500, you only buy bells, whistles, and conveniences. He's got three displays. That's the only reason he needs dual 590's. On a single display, there's no gain. The rest of the stuff he's got is just not worth it. Simply stated: It's not a beast of a computer, it's a beast of a price. It's really just a i7-2600k with enough RAM. Any other i7 with 8GB of DDR3-1333 and a true gaming video card is going to have similar performance. If you think that adding on everything else he's got is going to improve performance.... then you're just the sort of person that he's selling to. (Note: In truth, the $5000 might be based on labor and aesthetics. There is value in appearance, efficiency, and silence) you couldn't be more wrong, check out Tomshardware's system builder marathons where they compare a 500$ - 1000$ and 2000$ gaming computers overclocked and show a price to performance ration. Sure the 500$ computer dollar for dollar is the better buy but it doesn't mean that the 1000$'s computer isn't better it just means that the 1000$ computer isn't double the performance for double the money. Finally the only way I can see someone paying 5000$'s for a computer is if that also included his peripherals and Right now I have duel 27's side by side and they only cost about 380 each... so this guys numbers are way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckoneful Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 This post was to point out how 5K won't give you the outstanding performance you might think (with swtor). Showing just how bad the engine and coding really is. Dropping from 110+ frames down to 32 is something that shouldn't happen on a beastly PC like that No, it shows that computer definitely isn't worth 5000$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070 329$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131760 339$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231489 139$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227728 100$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145520 150$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014 280$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130590 485$ x 2 http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=30281 189$ http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8525/ex-blc-569/EK_Supreme_HF_Universal_CPU_Liquid_Cooling_Block_w_LGA_2011_Hardware_-_Rev_3_-_Acetal_Sockets_775_1156_1366_2011_939_940_754_AM2_AM2_AM3.html 72$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992 140$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009291 195$ x3 Though that's everything he has for 3293$ not including shipping... Still damn expensive I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanquind Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 personally i dont have any issues but those of you that do just need to give them some time every PC game these days has performance issues on release and it usually doesnt get much better till about 6 months in so i'd say by summer we should see some nice changes Umm....no? Well, okay...performance issues yes. Most games seem to have that these days. But SWTOR doesn't just have 'performance issues' for quite a few people. SWTOR has 'game becomes unplayable while my pc is way better than minimum specs' problems. And no game I've seen come out in the past few years or so has had THAT big a 'performance issue' before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybomb Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 If anyone not trying to sequence the human genome pays more than $2k for a PC, they got ripped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanquind Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 No, it shows that computer definitely isn't worth 5000$ (snip to shorten quote) Though that's everything he has for 3293$ not including shipping... Still damn expensive I guess. Heh, no surprise there. The guy probably wants to make a nice profit off of the pc's he builts. He has to if it's a source of income for him, since computer stores and stuff like this generally don't make a lot of money. Still though...1700ish dollars on top of the material cost...way too much. 500 dollars I could understand, not 1700. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanquind Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 If anyone not trying to sequence the human genome pays more than $2k for a PC, they got ripped. Good point. You can build a pc that can run ANYTHING that's out today or that's upcoming in this year so far on a PC for 2000 dollars. And with that you can most likely even also get 2~3 screens, a gaming keyboard/mouse, and a nice surround system. (not the most expensive ones of course, but 75% of gamers don't even notice any real difference between a 80 dollar sound system and a 200 dollar one anyway.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZedFighter Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 No, it shows that computer definitely isn't worth 5000$ Don't tell me no, I started the thread. The thread was started to show that high end doesn't mean performance with SWTOR. Maybe you need to go back and read the OP again. Because I can't find anything regarding "worth" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathDeathDie Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Umm....no? Well, okay...performance issues yes. Most games seem to have that these days. But SWTOR doesn't just have 'performance issues' for quite a few people. SWTOR has 'game becomes unplayable while my pc is way better than minimum specs' problems. And no game I've seen come out in the past few years or so has had THAT big a 'performance issue' before. Civilization 5 did and I am not defending the game hell the fact that I have performance issues on my computer while playing this game is frustrating. I built it last march for a total price of 2050$'s. Motherboard: Asus Sabretooth X58 Processor: Intel I7 950 Ram: 12 Gigs Kingston Hyper X 6X 2 gig Dimms Videocards: 2 X XFX 6870's 1 GB Harddrives: OCZ 120 Gig Vertex 2 SSD 1X WD Carviar Black 1TB SATA II w/ 64mb cache Powersupply: Silverstone Strider Gold 1000Watt Case: NZXT Phantom Full Tower Black CPU Cooler: Corsair H70 OS: Windows 7 Pro OEM Internet: Shaw Warp speed 50mb/s My computer wasn't the best on the market when I built it back then and it sure isn't now but its high enough end that on medium to medium high settings I should not experience any real lag or stuttering issues and yet I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifeaggro Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 No, it shows that computer definitely isn't worth 5000$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070 329$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131760 339$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231489 139$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227728 100$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145520 150$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014 280$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130590 485$ x 2 http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=30281 189$ http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8525/ex-blc-569/EK_Supreme_HF_Universal_CPU_Liquid_Cooling_Block_w_LGA_2011_Hardware_-_Rev_3_-_Acetal_Sockets_775_1156_1366_2011_939_940_754_AM2_AM2_AM3.html 72$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992 140$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009291 195$ x3 Though that's everything he has for 3293$ not including shipping... Still damn expensive I guess. you have the wrong video cards 590 gtx are about 600 to 700 dollars and twice the video ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifeaggro Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Your very wrong when it comes to pricing you can buy a Single 590 GTX for 680-750$'s a 6990 for the same price range if that guy who supposedly builds custom computers paid that much for his GTX 590's then I call BS on the whole thing not his performance but that he built that computer himself for 5 grand... I meant for both 1200 to 1400 for his dual set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathDeathDie Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I meant for both 1200 to 1400 for his dual set up. I thought you meant for a single one as that is the only possible way I can see a 5000$ price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifeaggro Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Umm....no? Well, okay...performance issues yes. Most games seem to have that these days. But SWTOR doesn't just have 'performance issues' for quite a few people. SWTOR has 'game becomes unplayable while my pc is way better than minimum specs' problems. And no game I've seen come out in the past few years or so has had THAT big a 'performance issue' before. And have this bad of textures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepumuk Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) Nice bunny circle hopping around the mobs and mashing two keys like crazy. If a $5K PC would make me do that I would want a refund for sure. Edited February 21, 2012 by Nepumuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agilard Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 question is can he run this beast pc in illum lol. that is the challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhazesx Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'm running SWTOR on my Commodore PET, 30 fps in fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifeaggro Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 question is can he run this beast pc in illum lol. that is the challenge or on the fleet lol. my system is close to his minus 1 590 gtx , my CPU is a 990 x 4.2 i get about 20 to 30 FPS when im on the Station funny thing is nobody is moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annndy Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Enable your FPS display (CTRL SHIFT F)... take several screenshots while in combat in WZs and in Ilum... then post them. What are your specs? Thanks. will do a few when i get home later, i have yet to play on Ilum tho so i cant comment to much on it, will try to get some from there too if i can have time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agilard Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I'm using an onboard video card and I get a steady 30 FPS on fleet and in WZ. That may not seem good to you 100 FPS people, but 30FPS looks just fine to me. technically the naked eye can only see an average of about 30 fps, so 60-100 fps is just overkill. it would be insane if the naked eye can process all that fps lol. i think ill be in swtor matrix when that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wslicer Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Mine's a 2,000 Alienware laptop. It runs excellently at max settings. Maybe some combo of the parts/software is dragging him down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agilard Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 or on the fleet lol. my system is close to his minus 1 590 gtx , my CPU is a 990 x 4.2 i get about 20 to 30 FPS when im on the Station funny thing is nobody is moving. lol well if i had a rig like that, i'd def be mind boggled to why my fps is that low on fleet without people moving. i would probably even be more upset and probably use force rage on people due to illum problems lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agilard Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 grrr all you guys can probably see through all that fps cause i certainly cant. i want to see what u guys are seeing with 100-200 fps will i be in the matrix, or will my eyes bleed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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