XxPetexX Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Is just insane. A lot of ppl complain about sorcerers which I can understand but from my point of view imperial opweatives are the worst. I'm usually down to 30% hp before I can even move or retaliate. I'm a champion geared (most parts) jedi sentinel and a imp perative can actually stand toe to toe and just out dps me in a clear melee fight. Maybe I just don't know how to fight them but they scare me to death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narat Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 well they do where medium armor i think as you do and they do like to stick you in the back -- repeatably. I think the nerf to surge helped a little but not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somalin Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Nerf Ops again plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finetop Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) The paper/rock/scissors of this game is broken and needs to be fixed. Healers are basically impossible to kill 1v1 vs a skilled player as DPS and that should be the first sign that BW has no idea what they are doing in pvp balance. Edited February 18, 2012 by finetop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeltikTwo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I think they should nerf, and I mean really gut power and surge. That'll teach those sneaky gits eh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fliguy Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Agreed. They need some serious nerfing. They usually kill my lvl 50, almost completely Champion geared Guardian in under 10-15 seconds. Ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finetop Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I think they should nerf, and I mean really gut power and surge. That'll teach those sneaky gits eh ? I am going to guess you do not have an ops, amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacedemon Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Honestly its not that high, as long as your where well geared it wasn't even that bad before the nerf (for the record I am not an Operative). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobaIceTea Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Maybe I just don't know how to fight them but they scare me to death How would you even know if you know how to fight them when you usually don't even get to fight them? I don't really like to whine about anything being OP, but being stun-locked and killed from 100% health through 650 expertise would definitely count as OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyhuh Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm a sorc heals and I have to say even though their burst is crazy, their below average outside of stealth. Very easy class to escape from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finetop Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) How would you even know if you know how to fight them when you usually don't even get to fight them? I don't really like to whine about anything being OP, but being stun-locked and killed from 100% health through 650 expertise would definitely count as OP. You realize Ops don't even have the best CC in the game and are somewhere around the 2nd squishiest class in the game right? Edited February 18, 2012 by finetop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeltikTwo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 While your at it, nerf marauders, I've seen them gits solo down healers in seconds ! Nerf those blinking jedi knights too, you know the ones, the have 1 lightsaber and build up to 6k hits ! Oh yea, the heavy armour fellas that spam 1 button repeadedly ? Burn em, just bin the class. Healers ? Good god, they should take a 99% heal reduction in pvp, in fact, all the time ! The tank guys that can jump at people AND pull/push them into fires in huttball ? Thats just gotta go. Lightning/pebble spammers ? Bin em utterly. I miss anyone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finetop Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 These guys not going to be happy until it is literally impossible for any class to kill another unless the one killing is a jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somalin Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 While your at it, nerf marauders, I've seen them gits solo down healers in seconds ! Nerf those blinking jedi knights too, you know the ones, the have 1 lightsaber and build up to 6k hits ! Oh yea, the heavy armour fellas that spam 1 button repeadedly ? Burn em, just bin the class. Healers ? Good god, they should take a 99% heal reduction in pvp, in fact, all the time ! The tank guys that can jump at people AND pull/push them into fires in huttball ? Thats just gotta go. Lightning/pebble spammers ? Bin em utterly. I miss anyone ? Nope you're good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeltikTwo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Nope you're good. Ta, I only have 50s for sage/operative/commando/almost jugg (close, not quite there) Hang on ....... Nerf those guys with the double sided laser swords ! At least give swing it a chance of cutting off thier own limbs ! (knew I'd missed someone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxPetexX Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm not the best player in the world but I consider myself decent. I run into guy that will kick my arse and I'll run into guys whose arse I'll kick. But I have yet to run into one single Operative where I have stood a chance, I mean not even a shred of a shadow of a chance. It's like I have no idea HOW to fight them. If I marauder kicks my arse I can just say "ok, he was better than me or had better gear". With Operatives I'm just left sitting there thinking "*** just happened" I mean I am basically almost dead before I can move. I don't like to whine OP, but this class makes me want to do it. When I'm dead before I can fight back, that kind of pisses me off:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finetop Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) xxxPeterxxx, lets start with what class and spec you are and go from there? Because everything you said there gives us no inclination as to what the problem is... Edited February 18, 2012 by finetop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somalin Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 It's like we're back in time... time... time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobaIceTea Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 You realize Ops don't even have the best CC in the game and are somewhere around the 2nd squishiest class in the game right? Your argument has nothing to do with the argument at hand. Nobody likes being killed without the ability to fight back. I don't mind them having an advantage if they get the jump on me, but killing someone before the stuns wear off is definitely OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxPetexX Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 Jedi Sentinel, Watchman. Almost full Champion gear. I fare well enough in WZ's, almost always top 3 overall damage and usually very high in the kill count. It's just the damn Operatives man. Like I said I'm almost dead before I can move. When I can start fighting back I'm down to like 30% hp if I'm lucky. I simply can't figure out what I'm doing wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finetop Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) Your argument has nothing to do with the argument at hand. Nobody likes being killed without the ability to fight back. I don't mind them having an advantage if they get the jump on me, but killing someone before the stuns wear off is definitely OP. JMO, but the problem with this statement is if you agree with what I said than every other class in the game can more or less do this, and Ops are more susceptible to it than the others... Edited February 18, 2012 by finetop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobaIceTea Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 JMO, but the problem with this statement is if you agree with what I said than every other class in the game can more or less do this, and Ops are more susceptible to it than the others... Maybe the answer is as simple as lowering their burst and increasing their sustained damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeltikTwo Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) Jedi Sentinel, Watchman. Almost full Champion gear. I fare well enough in WZ's, almost always top 3 overall damage and usually very high in the kill count. It's just the damn Operatives man. Like I said I'm almost dead before I can move. When I can start fighting back I'm down to like 30% hp if I'm lucky. I simply can't figure out what I'm doing wrong I'll make the assumption that you ain't at full health when the bad man appears. If you are does he- A: Knock you down, hit you once, dissapear then knock you down again ? B: Pull out a large comedy boxing glove ? C: Rely on the ranged guy shooting you at the same time to make a fast kill ? Edited February 18, 2012 by KeltikTwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxPetexX Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 It'll usually go something like. Knife, knock down *** is happening face. hp below 50% knife I get up Force stasis Leg sweep shield. he vanishes. returns. finishes me off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxPetexX Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 And no ofc it's solo. I wouldn't complain about them being OP if they killed me with the help of one or two other guys:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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