Kirti Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Forgive me if this was already discussed in another thread, but how does the game determine if something is an invalid name? I'm trying to make an agent and was going for a code name vs. a real name like Bob. I tried the following and it keeps giving me 'Invalid Name' (not 'Unavailable Name'): Jester Lictor Denton What exactly about the above names makes them 'Invalid'? Google and torhead searches don't show me any mobs/characters with those names. To my knowledge, none of the above are inappropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanxlink Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Dunno, already in use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daovin Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Considering the game sometimes gives the "no character exists" error when adding people to friends list, it's not much of a stretch to think their naming screen errors are bugged too. They are probably in use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyHeaton Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 It gives a separate message if the name is in use, though. I'm also curious about this. There was a name I was dead set on, and I kept getting this error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathnasty Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Forgive me if this was already discussed in another thread, but how does the game determine if something is an invalid name? I'm trying to make an agent and was going for a code name vs. a real name like Bob. I tried the following and it keeps giving me 'Invalid Name' (not 'Unavailable Name'): Jester Lictor Denton What exactly about the above names makes them 'Invalid'? Google and torhead searches don't show me any mobs/characters with those names. To my knowledge, none of the above are inappropriate. via word lists of names ie jesus david lister alllaahhh rimmer hitler teletubbie etc usually religious or copy write materials but not limited to anything they dont want you to use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirti Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) It's possible that it's just an odd bug like when adding friends. I was into the game during second day of early access and tried to grab a name for a friend that wasn't even a real word or reference and is too contrived to have been taken already and I got the 'Invalid Name' error. I don't see why Jester (an entertainer), Lictor (roman bodyguard), or Denton (JC Denton from Deus Ex) would be on any word lists. They have little to no religious context and are not offensive in the least. *shrug* I remember a smuggler called 'Jedi' during the weekend beta testing = ). Edit: Whoops - scanned the posts a bit too fast. I guess they could be playing it safe with copyright material. Edited February 16, 2012 by Kirti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder-God Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) My normal name "Thor" is also on the list of banned names...which I find annoying that they rule out norse mythology (uh hello...Marvel wasn't exaclty original in their comic book....)...not the first time I've run into it in an MMO though. Edited February 16, 2012 by Thunder-God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafpants Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) I'm trying to make an agent and was going for a code name vs. a real name like Bob. I tried the following and it keeps giving me 'Invalid Name' (not 'Unavailable Name')It could be that these names are already in use as NPCs (rather than players) and it's giving a different error message. Edited February 16, 2012 by Dafpants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggilus Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Just had this error too, and I don't think it's because they're already in use or being used by an NPC (if they are, screenshot now): Meaty'licks Meaty'yum'yums Both invalid. However a friend has a character called Meaty'goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elly_Dawn Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 i wish they'd impliment something like what PSO had where each character got an ID Number so that the same name could be used by multiple people, it annoys me to no end that i cant use my name ingame cause someone got it on the new server before the merger forcing me to change my characters name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilfearia Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 copyrighted names? thats not possible, if that is somehow proper legal procdure somewhere then im going to start filing charges at people whom most likely by mistake has used my names from my own writings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) First name I tried for my first character was Lenin. Invalid Not quite sure why, he was no Stalin/Pol Pot and I'd bet the whole Hutta that 'Lenin' is not copyright'd. Edited January 30, 2013 by Socialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithKoriandr Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 My normal name "Thor" is also on the list of banned names...which I find annoying that they rule out norse mythology (uh hello...Marvel wasn't exaclty original in their comic book....)...not the first time I've run into it in an MMO though. Well, in the Star Wars universe, they wouldn't have Norse mythology to begin with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackavaar Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Not Allowed names generally come from a list that is shared amongst pretty much all MMO developers. It includes names that are protected for Trademark and Copyright reasons and/or are offensive or can be considered offensive in one of the game's user languages. This makes for a long list of names that are simply Not Allowed. Also, most NPC names are added to this list for each particular game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianDavion Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Not Allowed names generally come from a list that is shared amongst pretty much all MMO developers. It includes names that are protected for Trademark and Copyright reasons and/or are offensive or can be considered offensive in one of the game's user languages. This makes for a long list of names that are simply Not Allowed. Also, most NPC names are added to this list for each particular game. as well as real world names. such as "goerge bush" etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLanister Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Why the hell is "thumbs"invalid? via word lists of names ie jesus david lister alllaahhh rimmer hitler teletubbie etc usually religious or copy write materials but not limited to anything they dont want you to use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angryshooter Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 i wish they'd impliment something like what PSO had where each character got an ID Number so that the same name could be used by multiple people, it annoys me to no end that i cant use my name ingame cause someone got it on the new server before the merger forcing me to change my characters name... I know what you mean, but PSO ID system was determined for the Drops/rare's and frequency, which isnt the case here in TOR. I too would like to be able to use any name i wish, just like outside the game where many ppl have the same first and last name's, without being related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaren_Kincaid Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 This is definitely a bug. I'm trying to remove the hyphen to rename my characters thus: Timon-Andrade-->Timon Andrade Merrin-Nov'a-->Merrin Nova But I keep getting "invalid name". I wish they'd damn well fix it because BW have done nothing despite my in-game bug reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) This is definitely a bug. I'm trying to remove the hyphen to rename my characters thus: Timon-Andrade-->Timon Andrade Merrin-Nov'a-->Merrin Nova But I keep getting "invalid name". I wish they'd damn well fix it because BW have done nothing despite my in-game bug reports. Holy necro aside.... An old established name in use, may upon attempt to reuse... be found to be invalid. Why? Because it was added after you used the name, and you were never reported and therefore reviewed for valid name use. I've seen numerous threads about this over the years.. so I know it happens. People need to keep in mind that the banned name list is continually evolving, and the search filter may very well be parsing those names as well looking for partial matches from names previously misused and added to the ban list. For example: someone above was complaining about "thumbs" being invalid. Well.. maybe some derp somewhere along the line made a name that contained "thumbs" in it and it was actually the full name (let's say Thumbs-upyourbum or some other silly nonsense). My point is not to rationalize why some name is banned.. only to point out that between their lists of banned names + their filter lookups... you could get some false positives on the ban list. Edited June 7, 2016 by Andryah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaren_Kincaid Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Another problem is that I'd like to e-mail about this problem but there is no function for doing that. ATM BW has plausible deniability; if I all interactions using e-mail they couldn't deny what had been said or promised in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDutchman Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Another problem is that I'd like to e-mail about this problem but there is no function for doing that. ATM BW has plausible deniability; if I all interactions using e-mail they couldn't deny what had been said or promised in the past. did you seriously just use "plausible deniability" to refer to an issue you are having with invalid character names? This isn't a court case, nor are they even doing anything wrong necessarily, those ban lists are there for a very good reason. Also pretty sure they never promised your pet character name would be available for you at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaren_Kincaid Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 did you seriously just use "plausible deniability" to refer to an issue you are having with invalid character names? This isn't a court case, nor are they even doing anything wrong necessarily, those ban lists are there for a very good reason. Also pretty sure they never promised your pet character name would be available for you at all times. Way to prove that you have COMPLETELY missed the point. Rather than repeat the same explanation time and time again, and have them say this is the first time they've heard the problem, I want a paper trail to show otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rantank Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 So from "plausible deniability" we've gone to paper trail proof.... you're a middle manager aren't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirameki Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) Another problem is that I'd like to e-mail about this problem but there is no function for doing that. ATM BW has plausible deniability; if I all interactions using e-mail they couldn't deny what had been said or promised in the past. I emailed them about this back in 2011 and it's a bug. They could find nothing wrong with the name I wanted to use (my forum handle) and told me to simply use another spelling. However sometimes invalid names become usable in a weird way. For example my forum handle could not be used ingame. Also gave an invalid option since BETA. However after a patch back in 2013 I was able to take the name on one server but it still was invalid on all other ones. So it's just one of those bugs in the game they will do nothing about, just like the several others we're having with this game. Edited June 7, 2016 by Kirameki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaren_Kincaid Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 So from "plausible deniability" we've gone to paper trail proof.... you're a middle manager aren't you. Good thing you're not a professional prognosticator; you'd starve. Are you seriously telling me that when you contact other helpdesks you don't want a paper trail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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