Dreadker Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Just ran two warzones in the sub-50 bracket where the entire enemy team held the ball at their goal line by their spawn point and just passed the ball between each other. Now, this is not really an issue, but it does fully highlight how broken the scoring system is in this game. Most of their players had over 7 medals, over 3200 objective points and the team had less than 10 kills each. This further highlights how broken the medal system is and how objectives don't reward achieving the actual goal (this is scoring in huttball, advancing the team through doors/bridges in voidstar,and capturing points in alderann). Again, bioware seems happy to just sit back and watch the pvp community die. A direct quote from a player on our server was "i'm new to pvp, is this what its always like?"... If i wasn't there to explain it was just a bunch of trolls gaming the system, they'd probably never queue again... You seriously need to re-assess pvp in this game bioware. The expertise needs removing or just being flat for all classes The 'scoring' system in warzones is broken The open world pvp is a joke My renewal for the month is on the 18th, once that goes through i'm unsubbing, if i see some changes toward making pvp workable in this game i'll resub, else i'm outy. If i wanted to play a game where all the players do is pass the ball all day without fighting, I'd buy John Fricking Madden or Fifa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystry Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Winning by keeping the ball away from the enemy. I don't see the problem here. Sounds to me like your team wasn't good enough to burst down the carrier through 8 solid seconds of stun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyrosso Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Just ran two warzones in the sub-50 bracket where the entire enemy team held the ball at their goal line by their spawn point and just passed the ball between each other. Now, this is not really an issue, but it does fully highlight how broken the scoring system is in this game. Most of their players had over 7 medals, over 3200 objective points and the team had less than 10 kills each. This further highlights how broken the medal system is and how objectives don't reward achieving the actual goal (this is scoring in huttball, advancing the team through doors/bridges in voidstar,and capturing points in alderann). Again, bioware seems happy to just sit back and watch the pvp community die. A direct quote from a player on our server was "i'm new to pvp, is this what its always like?"... If i wasn't there to explain it was just a bunch of trolls gaming the system, they'd probably never queue again... You seriously need to re-assess pvp in this game bioware. The expertise needs removing or just being flat for all classes The 'scoring' system in warzones is broken The open world pvp is a joke My renewal for the month is on the 18th, once that goes through i'm unsubbing, if i see some changes toward making pvp workable in this game i'll resub, else i'm outy. If i wanted to play a game where all the players do is pass the ball all day without fighting, I'd buy John Fricking Madden or Fifa... Are u talking about pvp or only huttball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mertissielle Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Or, like, a knockback interception or something? I wish they played like this on my server - my daily would be done in minutes! It's a legitimate but risky strategy - all sports have people who don't play the prettiest but still win - Stoke City in the Premier League, the Giants in the Superbowl, Blue flame Helion rushes, whatever. I really don't see the problem. And to call them "trolls"? Just, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayseelol Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Winning by keeping the ball away from the enemy. I don't see the problem here. Sounds to me like your team wasn't good enough to burst down the carrier through 8 solid seconds of stun. ^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclekaula Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 This doesnt sound like an exploit, but a problem with your team working together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordius Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 This doesnt sound like an exploit, but a problem with your team working together. ^ pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadker Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 I agree 100% that winning the warzone via keeping the ball is a totally legitimate strategy. My issue is with that by doing this they get more rewards than those actually fighting PvP. And unless you have a co-ordinated pug group, trying to kill the ball carrier while 7 other players decend upon you - their ball carrier always stayed by the wall, so knockbacks couldn't be used etc. The fact that you're awarded for a pass at all is beyond me (maybe a winning pass). The medal system is broken, and now people have found out that doing this is easier than actually playing, running around etc. i'm expecting this sort of thing consistently now until i hit 50... only 8 levels... but if i were a lvl 10 and saw this my view would be "really - 40 levels of watching a team pass the ball?" One it doesn't improve anyones ability to fight another player in terms of skill and to know that i'd hit 50 with most likely less valor than a clown how just hit one button to pass the ball I'd quit... Again - holding the ball is a valid strategy - rewarding the whole team more valor than a team who scores (in one instance we actually scored 2 and won the warzone yet their players had more medals and valor than the winning team!). I basically raised this to make players aware that this sort of retarded game play is going on and that it further highlights a broken pvp reward system/objective system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtfnonamefree Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Apart from the fact, that the described behaviour is totally okay and it is your fault (as a team) for not being able to counter it - how on earth are you coming to those conclusions from it: The expertise needs removing or just being flat for all classes The 'scoring' system in warzones is broken The open world pvp is a joke Those opinions you share there are totally unrelated to the story of your loss, just saying. Also, passing the ball nets you zero rewards - what makes you think it does? Funny thing is, it should, but they took out all attack related objective points at some point in early beta. You raging about how it does, while it doesn't is just icing on the unvoluntary humor cake. Edited February 15, 2012 by wtfnonamefree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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