Frenzyguy Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Pure Shockfrozen Water is now consumed on use and has a stack limit of one (instead of two). THis wasnt even in the ptr note.....why didnt you write it in ptr note.....instead of hiding it for patch day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paspinall Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 did you consider it wasnt on the pts but instead went in to the patch as they put it on live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzyguy Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 did you consider it wasnt on the pts but instead went in to the patch as they put it on live. It wasnt on pts so wasnt tested......its a semi-ninja nerf, instead of just making it unusable in warzone and ilum pvp zone they had to, go balls out on this item, instead of fixing real problem......strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Descends Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) they shouldve left it alone but forbidden to remove the debuff that it casts...this way you dont have to get another one while u wait for wz to pop. and it would still be a viable pve option. Edited February 15, 2012 by Descends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzyguy Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 they shouldve left it alone but forbidden to remove the debuff that it casts...this way you dont have to get another one while u wait for wz to pop. and it would still be a viable pve option. It was a buff, makin it a debuff would have made it unclickable and and thus good overall and not op at all, OR just not allowing it in wzs....they just went overboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainrehtea Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 It's main purpose was for obtaining the Magenta Crystal so I'm fine with this nerf. Be glad they didn't just remove it's healing ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lortiz Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Good fix. I play sith asssassin myself and was getting 2 free medals for heal every game and sometimes even 3, and I think it wasn't fair. Healers should get these medals, not damage-dealers. There are 2.5k, 5k, 75k and 300k dmg medals for us. Good job Bioware, very nice attention to your game. Now please fix camera, it reset to default close position every 2 min. And an option to make it non-resetting to back of character when running would be nice too :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzrknight Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 It wasnt on pts so wasnt tested......its a semi-ninja nerf, instead of just making it unusable in warzone and ilum pvp zone they had to, go balls out on this item, instead of fixing real problem......strange. People seem to think that leaving every single exploit open to make PvE a cake walk is ok. So nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehPenGu Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Very nice change imo. Just stupid that everyone has acces to 3 medals through 1 item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Foy Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 People seem to think that leaving every single exploit open to make PvE a cake walk is ok. So nice. Shockfrozen water had nothing to do with pve. You could not use it in combat. It's only useful application was in pvp to heal large amounts of health in a short time when out of combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Descends Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) in pve when you are jumping down the halls in karagga you can use it so the whole group doesnt have to wait...things like that. Edited February 15, 2012 by Descends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Promyvion Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 in pve when you are jumping down the halls in karagga you can use it so the whole group doesnt have to wait...things like that. I'd have to agree. Shaving off the 2 seconds it takes to heal back up after that fall is pretty groundbreaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karasuko Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 It wasnt on pts so wasnt tested......its a semi-ninja nerf, instead of just making it unusable in warzone and ilum pvp zone they had to, go balls out on this item, instead of fixing real problem......strange. Awwwww they removed your 2 free medals a game. GET OVER IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Descends Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I'd have to agree. Shaving off the 2 seconds it takes to heal back up after that fall is pretty groundbreaking. im just saying, its a useful thing to have around for things like that. you can be a jerk all you like and take things out of context but its a cool item, i wish they just left the debuff unclickable instead of having to get a new one after each use... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzyguy Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 Shockfrozen water had nothing to do with pve. You could not use it in combat. It's only useful application was in pvp to heal large amounts of health in a short time when out of combat. In pve it was usefull in between pull to go back faster in fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malformed Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) it was nice to have and removing it's usefulness outside of wz's was unnecessary. but it's not a big deal all around. only bothers me that they would take the time to fix this while so many other more important things could use the attention. edit: it either was in the patch notes and i missed it, or they snuck it in after the fact. either way it is in the patch notes currently. Edited February 15, 2012 by malformed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSlayAlot Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 What the hell is there to test? Why should it go on the PTR? Are you just whinging because you have a keyboard in front of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malformed Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) What the hell is there to test? Why should it go on the PTR? Are you just whinging because you have a keyboard in front of you? personally I don't care if it was on ptr or not, but it would have been nice to see it in the patch notes when i logged in... instead of finding out after I used it once that it was gone. also it is whining. so my question is, are you whining about the whining because you have a keyboard in front of you? Edited February 15, 2012 by malformed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenlonis Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 personally i don't care if it was on ptr or not, but it would have been nice to see it in the patch notes when i logged in... instead of finding out after i used it once that it was gone. I'll Fix this for you.. I used it in a war zone didn't realize it was gone then got owned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malformed Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) I'll Fix this for you.. I used it in a war zone didn't realize it was gone then got owned no. I used it in karaga's palace actually. I don't need medals in wz's, got to battle master without the water I saw no reason to start using it after I got it. edit: either it was in the patch notes and i missed it, or they snuck it in after the fact. either way it is in the patch notes currently so my complaint may be invalid. Edited February 15, 2012 by malformed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSlayAlot Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) also it is whining. so my question is, are you whining about the whining because you have a keyboard in front of you? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whinging Go back to school. Come back when you have learnt basic English. Edited February 15, 2012 by SirSlayAlot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whacks Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whining Oh look I can be arrogant too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karkais Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Shockfrozen water had nothing to do with pve. You could not use it in combat. It's only useful application was in pvp to heal large amounts of health in a short time when out of combat. You use it to get the magenta crystal mat. Btw. I didnt even know it does healing. Edited February 15, 2012 by Karkais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malformed Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whinging Go back to school. Come back when you have learnt basic English. intr.v. whinged, whing·ing, whing·es Chiefly British http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whining whine (hwn, wn) v. whined, whin·ing, whines v.intr. 1. To utter a plaintive, high-pitched, protracted sound, as in pain, fear, supplication, or complaint. 2. To complain or protest in a childish fashion. 3. To produce a sustained noise of relatively high pitch: jet engines whining. v.tr. To utter with a whine. n. 1. The act of whining. 2. A whining sound. 3. A complaint uttered in a plaintive tone. We are both correct, I just made the assumption that since you are posting on an American forum using English that you were spelling the word incorrectly. Edited February 15, 2012 by malformed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSlayAlot Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whining Oh look I can be arrogant too! If you think that was being arrogant, then you will fall off your high horse when someone actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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