copasetic Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 As the title states, what Enhancements should a Rage Jugg use if this Surge nerf goes live? I'm currently stacking Power/Surge due to both being direct damage increases to Smash. This nerf is definitely going to bring Rage more in line with Vigilance with Vig maybe even becoming better since it's more consistent damage and the entire reason of going Rage was for the extreme burst from Smashes. Power/Crit? Accuracy/Crit? Power/Accuracy? What do you guys think?
Anarachis Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Seriously, its a 10% nerf, It's not that bad. I sit at a crit bonus of 84%, meaning surge contributes 34%, after the nerf, if it is actually 10% that should be around 30.5%, leaving me with a total bonus of 80.5%. I don't understand all the panic about this at all.
Anarachis Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Excellent maths post about the surge nerf on the PTS forums. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=289336 Gives the real story on what the nerf does and means. I was wrong i go from 85% to 77%
Dracosz Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Gearing won't change at all, you'll still want more surge. As a poster mentioned before me though, Vengeance will become all the stronger for the change.
traemyn Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Gearing won't change at all, you'll still want more surge. As a poster mentioned before me though, Vengeance will become all the stronger for the change. You are glossing over the details. Of course you want more Surge. You also want more of every stat... The question is WHEN do you want more Surge in comparison to other stats since there is a limit to what stats you can have in your equipment. This nerf changes the point where other stats become better choices, even with Rage spec juggs.
Scinald Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Gearing won't change at all, you'll still want more surge. As a poster mentioned before me though, Vengeance will become all the stronger for the change. Out of curiosity, when you say Vengeance will become stronger for it do you mean actually strong as in it will do more damage than it currently does or just a more desirable option b/c the efficiency of the Rage spec has dropped now? P.S. If the answer is the former and not the latter....why?
ZetsumeiKira Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Seriously, its a 10% nerf, It's not that bad. I sit at a crit bonus of 84%, meaning surge contributes 34%, after the nerf, if it is actually 10% that should be around 30.5%, leaving me with a total bonus of 80.5%. I don't understand all the panic about this at all. .........................................You don't know the part about diminishing returns do you?
Quor Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 You still use Surge and Power because Rage is built around Smash crits, and Smash will always hit (except if a Sin or Shadow uses Force Cloak). You just won't be getting as much benefit from Surge as you did pre-patch. It's still better than any other stat out there (besides power).
Anarachis Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 .........................................You don't know the part about diminishing returns do you? See my second post? I see how they changed diminished returns. I go from 84 to 77. not a big nerf.
Quor Posted February 12, 2012 Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) See my second post? I see how they changed diminished returns. I go from 84 to 77. not a big nerf. Not to mention that the other stat options aren't really worth it over surge. I.e. power/surge enhancements will still be best for Rage. Edited February 12, 2012 by Quor
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