Gohtak Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Title says it all. I just don't understand why people get so angry when the topic of server merges comes up. There are servers with legit population problems that could be solved by merging the lower pops servers. However whenever this topic is mentioned there seems to be a very aggressive response by members of this community. Can anyone explain what's so bad about the topic?
Tic- Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) adding servers means more customers joining the game merging servers means customers leaving the game If you can't figure out the rest...... Edited February 10, 2012 by Tic-
Martinic Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Title says it all. I just don't understand why people get so angry when the topic of server merges comes up. There are servers with legit population problems that could be solved by merging the lower pops servers. However whenever this topic is mentioned there seems to be a very aggressive response by members of this community. Can anyone explain what's so bad about the topic? Probaly because that will mean Bioware is giving up
Quraswren Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Title says it all. I just don't understand why people get so angry when the topic of server merges comes up. There are servers with legit population problems that could be solved by merging the lower pops servers. However whenever this topic is mentioned there seems to be a very aggressive response by members of this community. Can anyone explain what's so bad about the topic? Probably cause server merges are usually associated with a declining game base. Truth is SWTOR launched better than any other MMo I've been a part of and that's been quite a good many. One way I think BW achieved this is spreading out he player base. Problem was it was spread out to thin as well as BW didn't take into account most people want to be evil *****hats and went empire creating another imbalance but did make for a smooth launch. I'd like to see some mergers but how do you merge servers without creating more faction imbalance?
ChicksDigHarleys Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) I'm not against it, I just don't think it's going to happen less than two months from launch...it's not realistic. What game ever merged servers so fast? Even epic fails like AoC waited like 9 months to merge servers the first time. Yes, they have too many servers, and even "heavy" ones feel empty to me, but like I said in another thread before it was closed (just like this one will be), I think they'll cave and add x-server LFG before they do server mergers. Edited February 10, 2012 by ChicksDigHarleys
ferroz Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Title says it all. I just don't understand why people get so angry when the topic of server merges comes up. There are servers with legit population problems that could be solved by merging the lower pops servers. However whenever this topic is mentioned there seems to be a very aggressive response by members of this community. Can anyone explain what's so bad about the topic?it's a deathknell for a game. A successful game adds severs, a less successful or failing game merges them.
xQuicksilverx Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 I understand the concept that merging servers is not a good sign.. but spend some time playing on Swiftsure - Empire, then go back to your light population server and try to force yourself to play. This game is just so much better on a heavy pop. server.
Katharis Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Who is against it? Who is on first! I would think some might be against server merges as it could be taken as a sign that the game is not as strong in the Force as some would like to believe. Also, some might be concerned about conflicts with character names - if, for example, Jedi Joe lives on the Bacon and Eggs server and another Jedi Joe lives on the Blueberry Pancakes server and the servers were merged into the Grand Slam Breakfast server, which Jedi would be Joe?
Ichikitsune Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Title says it all. I just don't understand why people get so angry when the topic of server merges comes up. There are servers with legit population problems that could be solved by merging the lower pops servers. However whenever this topic is mentioned there seems to be a very aggressive response by members of this community. Can anyone explain what's so bad about the topic? In my opinion, your server = home so if someone is upset it's cause they don't want to change servers. It will happen eventually it's all in the manner of when, how and what.
vincent- Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 It's like a political move the minute you hear server merges it's associated with dying games. Adding servers means a lively and growing game. There is no good way about it publicity wise the only solution is the community crying out that too many servers were put up that's the only way to save face with this. Just to remind you on how bad this still is. People only read the topic and never the article as well as word of mouth from no real good source or worst one can still make this look like well we messed up and now everyone knows and thinks were dying because of it.
Kourage Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Would you like your name, legacy, and guild name changed by force, because they're already taken? How will you feel when names you thought you knew turn out to be a stranger? How will you feel when some guy with your name and nobody likes merges to your server and you inherit all his bad will? Edited February 10, 2012 by Kourage
MikeMonger Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 The game isn't old enough to have the kind of mature playerbase that requires wholesale replanting. It's still early enough where it's still perfectly feasable for players to simply reroll on more populated servers. They also need to see how the numbers are trending. If subscriptions trend upward, then reducing the number of servers is just shooting themselves in the foot. In other words...it's simply too soon to merge servers.
Ichikitsune Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Title says it all. I just don't understand why people get so angry when the topic of server merges comes up. There are servers with legit population problems that could be solved by merging the lower pops servers. However whenever this topic is mentioned there seems to be a very aggressive response by members of this community. Can anyone explain what's so bad about the topic? In my opinion, your server = home so if someone is upset it's cause they don't want to change servers. It will happen eventually it's all in the manner of when, how and what.
formulaic Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 AFAIK server merges have 'issues' more than people being aggressively against them. #1 It's an excuse for players to quit. Kindof important if you make money when the players don't quit. It's a "do you really want to continue?" dialog box. #2 It looks bad. Server merges 2 months from release? roflmao failurez!!!! #3 Sense of server identity. My server has the nicest people in the world, and the other server smells funny . The last one - people post about that.
Gehoornde Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 It's sad to see the game is already on it's downfall not even 2 months after release.
Blotter Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 adding servers means more customers joining the game merging servers means customers leaving the game If you can't figure out the rest...... Not necessarily. What it DOES do is give the APPEARANCE of customers being added or leaving. The raw subscription numbers trump all that tinfoil hatted nonsense, but yes, Gamespot, IGN, other gaming websites/media outlets and even major MSM outlets would probably engage in mild (but ridiculous) speculation about what it means for SWTOR's subscription health and future.
Balrizangor Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Who is on first! I would think some might be against server merges as it could be taken as a sign that the game is not as strong in the Force as some would like to believe. Also, some might be concerned about conflicts with character names - if, for example, Jedi Joe lives on the Bacon and Eggs server and another Jedi Joe lives on the Blueberry Pancakes server and the servers were merged into the Grand Slam Breakfast server, which Jedi would be Joe? You have made me hungry =P
Goretzu Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 it's a deathknell for a game. A successful game adds severs, a less successful or failing game merges them. Isn't pretty much the only MMO that's added servers after the inital lauch (since WoW came out) WoW? Only ones I can think of that did it too pre-dated WoW.
Tic- Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Not necessarily. What it DOES do is give the APPEARANCE of customers being added or leaving. The raw subscription numbers trump all that tinfoil hatted nonsense, but yes, Gamespot, IGN, other gaming websites/media outlets and even major MSM outlets would probably engage in mild (but ridiculous) speculation about what it means for SWTOR's subscription health and future. yes, because they would more than likely add servers if folks were no longer subbing to the game. Disposable income perhaps? And they would merge servers becasue if the had an overabundance of people joining? (/endsarcasm) I would think your raw subscription numbers would facilitate either of these two things happenning, no? Edited February 10, 2012 by Tic-
Aleeha Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) EGA - I hate you BioWare, for not allowing me access the same day as everyone else. I paid for my game give me access right now. EGA/Launch - I hate you BioWare, I have to wait 15mins to 1hrs+ to log into the game. Add more servers or I quit. 1 month later.. BioWare, my server is dead, could you please let us server xfer or merge servers? Thanks. Just sayin... Edited February 10, 2012 by Aleeha
BOLTgamer Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Why? Because all those medium pop servers will be filled in one-two months time, and they don't need to merge servers because it cost money and waste resources. It's also the sign of failing mmo's which is not true for this game since most people are gonna reroll due to emperor and republic inbalance/
Goretzu Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 EGA - I hate you BioWare, for not allowing me access the same day as everyone else. I paid for my game give me access right now. EGA/Launch - I hate you BioWare, I have to wait 15mins to 1hrs+ to log into the game. Add more servers or I quit. 1 month later.. BioWare, my server is dead, could you please let us server xfer or merge servers? Thanks. Just sayin... People said staggered access would stop the need for server merges. I and many others (including Yoda) said it wouldn't. Yoda was right.
Keta Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 adding servers means more customers joining the game merging servers means customers leaving the game If you can't figure out the rest...... Yup. Oh and it creating renaming nightmares for people op. If I was the player named "PieR2" on lord Adraas and it got merged into Empress Teta, why should I have to change my toon's name if someone on the destination server also had the name PieR2? What if my character was created earlier? What if their PieR2 was simply a place holder name that never was played? What if everyone on the origin server knew that you couldn't compete in PvP with Pie? How would Pie be so ****** if it's new name was flatulence? And the same goes for guild names. But the truth is just what Tic said, Merging servers is a sign that the game either started with too many or is losing customers. it'll be done if they have to but it's not a good thing.
Aiysis Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 The game isn't old enough to have the kind of mature playerbase that requires wholesale replanting. It's still early enough where it's still perfectly feasable for players to simply reroll on more populated servers.. "Simply rerolling" is not so simple for everyone. Not everyone has the time or patience to power level a character on a new server just because theres not enough players on their current server to do group content.
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