netskink Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Hello I was wondering if the following system would prevent afk's or quitters in pvp. Vote kick to prevent afk's. 1. Add a vote kick option. If your team thinks you can't cut it or you are afk, you can be vote kicked. If you are kicked there is no penalty other than having to re-queue. However, you can not be vote-kicked once you reach a certain amount of damage or objectives. 2. You can only initiate a vote kick once per match. You can vote as often as you like. Quitters 1. A deserter counter is implemented. When your toon is created it is set to zero. 2. Every time you voluntarily leave a match, you increment the deserter counter. 4. Every time you finish a match, you decrement the deserter counter. Your deserter counter can never be set below zero. 5. If your deserter counter is greater than zero, you can not queue for a match. 6. Once a day your deserter counter is decremented. 7. On server reboot, your deserter counter is zeroed.
Somalin Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 So basically if you get one of the various bugs that results in you getting kicked out of the warzone you're not allowed to play another one for the rest of the day? Sounds awesome.
joeypesci Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Should be no penalty for leaving a warzone. It's a choice. If people are disconnected or crash then they'd be hit too. It's the same old rubbish that happened on SWG where there were to high penalties for dying in PvP which meant I never bothered to PvP because it wasn't fun. Grinding a Jedi for hours only to lose loads of XP because you die isn't fun.
Grubfist Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Premades would coerce people into playing games their way.
sumfizz Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Nope. Any group vote option concerning one player would be abused. All it takes is one brat to spot somebody who offended him in general chat to abuse the vote option as revenge.
Rhazesx Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Nothing will stop me from leaving a warzone where its 5-0 with 10+ minutes left and the premade has no intention of scoring that last point until 15 secs is on the clock. You might kick my *** but I'm not going to let you R Kelly me for 10 minutes so you can boost your epeen.
Mistercynical Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 30 minute lockout for deserting. afkers/dcers can suck it up for 20 mins till the debuff ends. worked great in Rift.
Rabbican Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) You know what we did with vote kicks in WOW, in addition to kicking afk players, guildies (premades) would vote kick people right before the game ended to piss them off, if they were under-geared, or for general buffoonery. Edited February 9, 2012 by Rabbican
wiggs Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 rift had a report afk toggle and you couldn't reenter a warzone for 20 minutes(i think) if you left one. Easy.
netskink Posted February 9, 2012 Author Posted February 9, 2012 So basically if you get one of the various bugs that results in you getting kicked out of the warzone you're not allowed to play another one for the rest of the day? Sounds awesome. Read line number 2 again.
netskink Posted February 9, 2012 Author Posted February 9, 2012 You know what we did with vote kicks in WOW, in addition to kicking afk players, guildies (premades) would vote kick people right before the game ended to piss them off, if they were under-geared, or for general buffoonery. You would be immune if you had met a certain level of objective or damage points. I thought of that and put it in the comments.
SintLuciferNL Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 But with the voting you get the option that some people don't vote. (Don't know why but they won't be bothert). Just let the system see if a player is doing something. (damage, healing, taking damage, objective).
Oktaine Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 On one hand I'm sick of people quitting as soon as we fall behind. On the other I'm like "good, go, maybe we'll get someone better who actually cares".
xaven_ Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Should be no penalty for leaving a warzone. It's a choice. If people are disconnected or crash then they'd be hit too. It's a choice to enter a warzone, no must. But if you actively "click" leave, you should be penalized. Leaving by crashing is not leaving by button, so pure technical it's easy to identify cowards from crashers / disconnects.
kirorx Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 You might kick my *** but I'm not going to let you R Kelly me for 10 minutes so you can boost your epeen. /lol. nice
kirorx Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 I SAY NOPE. I drop out of huttball more often than not as soon as hear "take it away baron deathmark"
Ruuprect Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 I would love a vote kick/leader kick option with no limit on it. Mostly for AFK'rs, but for other reasons as well.
Twin Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Hello 1. A deserter counter is implemented. When your toon is created it is set to zero. 2. Every time you voluntarily leave a match, you increment the deserter counter. 4. Every time you finish a match, you decrement the deserter counter. Your deserter counter can never be set below zero. 5. If your deserter counter is greater than zero, you can not queue for a match. 6. Once a day your deserter counter is decremented. 7. On server reboot, your deserter counter is zeroed. So, if i have to leave 1 match i get a count on my quit-o-meter -which effectively prevents me from joining a WZ - and the only way i can decrease that value is by...finishing a WZ? Sounds awesome!
SirJoeStairs Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 just 15 minutes of deserter buff will be enought! no Joining WZ for 15 minutes. No great changes are needed and it is not necessary to add VERY BIG punishiments.. Just 15 minutes will be enought BUT DO IT!
caultonpos Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 30 minute lockout for deserting. afkers/dcers can suck it up for 20 mins till the debuff ends. worked great in Rift. Are you kidding me. Deserters get replaced. Deliberate afkers take up a space and do nothing. Dcers and deserters get 10 min but not if game already started. Afkers that are vote kicked and do no damage to the opposing team, nor heals get 1 hour ban.
SeptikAydz Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 YA.... about that... I'm sorry, but I will drop any match I want to ... your little "Leavers Stink" is not a valid statement. Premades = Wins, Pugs = Not Wins... Pugging is the worst thing in the world... Go roll a premade
goxwerd Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) So, if i have to leave 1 match i get a count on my quit-o-meter -which effectively prevents me from joining a WZ - and the only way i can decrease that value is by...finishing a WZ? Sounds awesome! ROFL exactly OP fail there. He really thought this through No idea why people overthink it. 15 min deserter counts down while logged off. ez. Edited February 9, 2012 by goxwerd
netskink Posted February 9, 2012 Author Posted February 9, 2012 So, if i have to leave 1 match i get a count on my quit-o-meter -which effectively prevents me from joining a WZ - and the only way i can decrease that value is by...finishing a WZ? Sounds awesome! You jumped to your conclusion. 6. Once a day your deserter counter is decremented.
Mythicrose Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Read line number 2 again. Easy to get around number 2...just restart the router or force TOR to end program from the task manager. I "accidentally" left the game and can get right back in (2 mins for the router rebooting).
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