Nightspirit Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 No superman... it's been proven in many debates that superman is stronger than goku. Depends if it's pre-crisis Superman or post-crisis Superman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayla_Felana Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Sephiroth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PibbyPib Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) Yeah, but he was standing on a little hill thing, meaning he had the high ground and was invincible. So it doesn't count. Edited February 5, 2012 by PibbyPib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarheartZero Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) Anakin was not at full power or versed in dark side technique yet. A fully trained anakin, obi-wan would have been a stain. Obi-wan wouldn't have been able to defeat the emperor, which leads me to this.... Lucas has said that Luke would have eventually been powerful enough to beat the emperor. And that Luke was what Anakin would have been, if not for his turn to dark side and injuries. BAM! Edited February 5, 2012 by WarheartZero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gantoris_Aym Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Well considering Darth Maul beat him, I'd say Darth Maul. Without Qui-Gon Jinn's help then TPM Obi is TOAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonSM Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Well considering Darth Maul beat him, I'd say Darth Maul. Without Qui-Gon Jinn's help then TPM Obi is TOAST. Maul beat him when he was a padawan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gantoris_Aym Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) Maul beat him when he was a padawan.. well that's why I said TPM Obiwan, but: Maul was younger than Obiwan, Obiwan survived which allowed him to train more. So if you allow Maul to survive I would think that he would improve exponentially because he had been training longer. And if he beat Obiwan as an Apprentice while fighting his MASTER then I would assume that if Maul succeeded Palpatine (just say palpatine got the flu or something i'm not trying to start another debate) He would progress just the same or better than Obiwan. Which means Maul would be better or equal to Obiwan, you cannot infer that he would be worse. Obiwan never fought more than one Force user at a time in the Movies, but Maul did in the movies and in Shadow Hunter. Also he fought in a small apartment with a bounty hunter who blew the whole room up, and Darth Maul evaded the explosion by cutting through the wall and then the floor in less that an millisecond's time. Edited February 5, 2012 by Gantoris_Aym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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