leonidaskar Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 So after trying alot of builds i settled with the Darkness chain shock one (21/12/8) and i rly much like it and IMO im doing more or less the same dps as other pure dps builds with the added benefit of double survivability... The important key in this build is Energize and electrify... in my experience this road does more dps than going all the way up the Deception tree to buff up ur shock with voltaic slash. Anyway my problem is that people in PVE runs see Dark charge and immediately think im tank and dont believe i can dps effectively... What they dont see is that Dark charge also helps my survivability and i dont have to get my *** handed whenever im being hit whcih ALSO helps the healer in the group... Anyone else got this problem of narrow mindness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KianTremayne Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 So after trying alot of builds i settled with the Darkness chain shock one (21/12/8) and i rly much like it and IMO im doing more or less the same dps as other pure dps builds with the added benefit of double survivability... The important key in this build is Energize and electrify... in my experience this road does more dps than going all the way up the Deception tree to buff up ur shock with voltaic slash. Anyway my problem is that people in PVE runs see Dark charge and immediately think im tank and dont believe i can dps effectively... What they dont see is that Dark charge also helps my survivability and i dont have to get my *** handed whenever im being hit whcih ALSO helps the healer in the group... Anyone else got this problem of narrow mindness? Unfortunately Dark Charge also increases your threat, which means you're much more likely to pull aggro off the tank and will piss off both the tank and the healer... unless they both shrug their shoulders and let you die, at which point you do zero DPS. DO NOT RUN IN DARK CHARGE IN A GROUP UNLESS YOU ARE TANKING. EVER. Accept that you can't get the maximum damage out of your build (you should still do 'good enough' damage for most content in Lightning Charge) or else switch to a build that does work to full effect in Lightning if you plan to group up regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonidaskar Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Unfortunately Dark Charge also increases your threat, which means you're much more likely to pull aggro off the tank and will piss off both the tank and the healer... unless they both shrug their shoulders and let you die, at which point you do zero DPS. DO NOT RUN IN DARK CHARGE IN A GROUP UNLESS YOU ARE TANKING. EVER. Accept that you can't get the maximum damage out of your build (you should still do 'good enough' damage for most content in Lightning Charge) or else switch to a build that does work to full effect in Lightning if you plan to group up regularly. Ok i understand what u are saying and if its true and Dark Charge was only intended for tanking then why the hell does its tree have some of the best dps abilities of the game??? doesnt make much sense to me am i the only one here who thinks so? Seriously Energize and Electrify on the tanking tree while we have things like insulation and entropic field on the dps tree??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVenizen Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Unfortunately Dark Charge also increases your threat, which means you're much more likely to pull aggro off the tank and will piss off both the tank and the healer... unless they both shrug their shoulders and let you die, at which point you do zero DPS. DO NOT RUN IN DARK CHARGE IN A GROUP UNLESS YOU ARE TANKING. EVER. Accept that you can't get the maximum damage out of your build (you should still do 'good enough' damage for most content in Lightning Charge) or else switch to a build that does work to full effect in Lightning if you plan to group up regularly. simple way to fix this, have the tank guard you. it's not that hard to get around that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVenizen Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Ok i understand what u are saying and if its true and Dark Charge was only intended for tanking then why the hell does its tree have some of the best dps abilities of the game??? doesnt make much sense to me am i the only one here who thinks so? Seriously Energize and Electrify on the tanking tree while we have things like insulation and entropic field on the dps tree??? while they are good for dps, shock is THE threat holding ability,so those boxes boost them as much as possible, as a darkness tank you revolve so much around shock that not boosting it would be foolish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonidaskar Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 So in other words what u are telling me is that if u want to dps in PVE u have to be a lame glass cannon, not getting the maximum damage out of ur build PLUS getting one shoted by almost anything (cause that rly the case without dark charge and with light armour)... yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delillo Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Unfortunately your build is going to take a hit in the next patch. Induction is no longer going to work with dark charge so you need to go another path anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilod Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) So in other words what u are telling me is that if u want to dps in PVE u have to be a lame glass cannon, not getting the maximum damage out of ur build PLUS getting one shoted by almost anything (cause that rly the case without dark charge and with light armour)... yes? well even with your build you dont really lose much by going light charge... you lose the poor dmg of dark charge proc for 3% crit chance and a decent dot also with the changes to induction that kind of build to dps in dark charge will be not viable anymore and you will be forced to use surge stance. still a 21/13/7 should give you overall better dps but ofc no dark charge and i agree in pve, if you are not tanking/offtanking better to not use dark charge, sin have also poor aoe so is pretty difficult (or it should ) to draw aggro... is it true that guard can fix that but maybe the tank will prefer to guard the healer or an higher dpser as a bh Edited February 2, 2012 by Zilod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonidaskar Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 still a 21/13/7 should give you overall better dps but ofc no dark charge well that build is not viable either since u have to use Dark charge for energize (which i asume is the key for ur suggested build)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilod Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 uops true mah hopefully they will boost sin dps in other ways... soon or later :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byteresistor Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Ok i understand what u are saying and if its true and Dark Charge was only intended for tanking then why the hell does its tree have some of the best dps abilities of the game??? ??? No it doesn't. Just because it's a tanking tree doesn't mean it cannot have one or two talents that slightly increases the damage of some abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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