Torothin Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I told myself I would give this game 6 months to set itself straight. I don't know if that's going to happen. Something about Eve-Onlines player influenced economy, Universe, how the PvP is, and how it encourages co-operation(on multiple levels). Well I miss that. This game is lacking something and it is just a grind for gear(so exciting). I'm valor 59 and have my champ gear and really don't know if I want to even start going for my BM. I want to give this game the benefit of the doubt and give it the 6 months like I initially planned but I just don't know. I would have more fun running fleets in faction warfare(eve-online) then I would playing hutt ball 90% of the time just to get a bag. BW said this game cares about PvP but so far the overall mechanics tell me otherwise. I just don't know guys. I'm losing faith and interest fast. Every day I play less and less. Some of you may think this is the greatest game ever. But I will disagree. If only world PvP meant something and we were fighting for something then it would be great. A ranking system where PvP stats can be seen and rewards given then I might stick around. But so far, 6 months is a lot to ask. last night was the first time I spent the night reading a book as opposed to playing this game. That's not a good sign... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhillegass Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 If you can stick around those things you want concerning pvp are comin shortly. On the main page is a link to the video. Rumors are march for the major patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeborn Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 BW said this game cares about PvP but so far the overall mechanics tell me otherwise. I just don't know guys. I'm losing faith and interest fast.. The game has been out a little over a month from release. If you don't wish to wait it's probably better you find something which fits your level of patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokonoso Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 The game has been out a little over a month from release. If you don't wish to wait it's probably better you find something which fits your level of patience. this, just be patient and take your time. i know im taking my time and playing lots of alts, no reason to do the BM gear grind right now, might as well wait until they add more pvp so you get it while having fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torothin Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 I can't even finish my class story line. 300m budget and several MMO's to use as a reference and this is the end result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keblitis Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 300m budget ? Nope. Damn, for a minute there I was totally convinced you actually had a legitimate gripe. Now, I see... otherwise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torothin Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 Nope. Damn, for a minute there I was totally convinced you actually had a legitimate gripe. Now, I see... otherwise... Explain to me that earning gear is my end game. Once I complete my daily's and weekly's I have no point in playing once I hit BM. Tell me what's the fun in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirUrza Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Explain to me that earning gear is my end game. Once I complete my daily's and weekly's I have no point in playing once I hit BM. Tell me what's the fun in that? That's what end game is in every mmo. What made you think it'd be any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BellaG Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I told myself I would give this game 6 months to set itself straight. I don't know if that's going to happen. Something about Eve-Onlines player influenced economy, Universe, how the PvP is, and how it encourages co-operation(on multiple levels). Well I miss that. This game is lacking something and it is just a grind for gear(so exciting). I'm valor 59 and have my champ gear and really don't know if I want to even start going for my BM. I want to give this game the benefit of the doubt and give it the 6 months like I initially planned but I just don't know. I would have more fun running fleets in faction warfare(eve-online) then I would playing hutt ball 90% of the time just to get a bag. BW said this game cares about PvP but so far the overall mechanics tell me otherwise. I just don't know guys. I'm losing faith and interest fast. Every day I play less and less. Some of you may think this is the greatest game ever. But I will disagree. If only world PvP meant something and we were fighting for something then it would be great. A ranking system where PvP stats can be seen and rewards given then I might stick around. But so far, 6 months is a lot to ask. last night was the first time I spent the night reading a book as opposed to playing this game. That's not a good sign... Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torothin Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 That's what end game is in every mmo. What made you think it'd be any different? You sir, are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jixer Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 That's what end game is in every mmo. What made you think it'd be any different? Correction: "That's what the end game is in every mmo, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SWOTR." The end game in SWOTR does not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waypoc Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I told myself I would give this game 6 months to set itself straight. I don't know if that's going to happen. Something about Eve-Onlines player influenced economy, Universe, how the PvP is, and how it encourages co-operation(on multiple levels). Well I miss that. This game is lacking something and it is just a grind for gear(so exciting). I'm valor 59 and have my champ gear and really don't know if I want to even start going for my BM. I want to give this game the benefit of the doubt and give it the 6 months like I initially planned but I just don't know. I would have more fun running fleets in faction warfare(eve-online) then I would playing hutt ball 90% of the time just to get a bag. BW said this game cares about PvP but so far the overall mechanics tell me otherwise. I just don't know guys. I'm losing faith and interest fast. Every day I play less and less. Some of you may think this is the greatest game ever. But I will disagree. If only world PvP meant something and we were fighting for something then it would be great. A ranking system where PvP stats can be seen and rewards given then I might stick around. But so far, 6 months is a lot to ask. last night was the first time I spent the night reading a book as opposed to playing this game. That's not a good sign... This has been my biggest gripe since day one. This game has no point, no challenge. I've already canceled and have filled out 2 surveys that were emailed to me asking how I feel about the game and why I left. Here is what I wrote: If some or all of the following were done, I would seriously consider coming back: Add Planets with no specific level range. Just a very mysterious Star Wars planet where you can run into mobs that are level 1 or level 50. All levels are there, low and high. Be CarefulNo yellow brick road quests where you literally follow a road and questline like a robot to the next quest line or area. It works in other games because they are much more openWhen you open a map, have it be the entire world, not just some tiny segment. I know you can click the whole world map and see the whole world but it still seems so small and segmented like I'm running from one ride or warehouse to anotherNo wallsNo exhaustion from running into the desertMore mystery. More mystical mysterious Gameplay. You know, like Star WarsMore immersionMore in-depth crafting - Crafting that YOU as the player actually have to do and not only your CompanionPlayer Housing on a planet that's non-instanced. No there would not be a blight if they just added rent with limits on how much you could pre-payChat BubblesScalable UIMovable UIPet MountsVehicle Mounts that actually work and feel right. In TOR they just don't feel right. The vehicles in TOR feel and drive like a hula skirt that you're wearing. It feels very fakeCommunityMore People - Stop the Sharding/InstancingPets that are not CompanionsLess Gated GameplayTrue Open WorldsMore in-depth Meaningful HarvestingRemove the mountain Walls, regular walls. Stop making me run 5 miles in one direction to get to an objective that is just on the other side of another wallBroker that worksGuild Halls - Non-InstancedNo Mobs on every single node and every single path. It's ridiculousNo Combat DelayBetter TexturesFood with Stats crafted by PlayersModdable Orange Armor that has a base stat so that it is actually worth something more than appearanceOpen World PvP with actual rewards so that everyone isn't always in WZ's on PvP Servers. And NO NOT JUST ILUMSlow level progression down with sandbox elements that would make people slow down because they desire to Also, it just seems that nothing you do in the SWTOR world really matters. BW's almost doctrinal stance on the solo story design is a mistake. Their stance on solo gameplay as a whole, in an MMO, is a mistake. SWTOR's group content is INCONSEQUENTIAL. If I did 5 fp's total, that would be a lot. There is no need to do them. You do not need to do them to advance in any way. I made it to 50 on one toon and 20 on another in 30 days without them. You say I missed out on great gear??? Really and with what consequence? NONE! And I was constantly ahead of the leveling curve right up to Corellia which is 47-49. The group content is fun that being FP's and Op's but it's old and tired and in the end doesn't matter as everyone will get good enough gear or better gear without trying so there is no point to it. People on the forums tell you do the FP's, OP's, crafting and such but none of it really matters in the end. Crafting : you will loot better gear while PvPing or running regular quests , fps or ops, so no point. Gear is easy to get so everyone will have it so again no point to ops or fp. At end game the game really becomes pointless especially on Ilum as Republic. That's one of the biggest things I come away with is that the game is too easy, too much good gear drops for nothing, no one needs you and you need no one. No middle game content that would make someone slow down. No real Epic questing going on. It's just more like doing assignments. You will get everything you want guaranteed. No risk whatsoever. It's epicly boring. It's the state of MMO's today I guess. Kind of sad actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygranir Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Explain to me that earning gear is my end game. Once I complete my daily's and weekly's I have no point in playing once I hit BM. Tell me what's the fun in that? Does anyone just enjoy PLAYING anymore? When I go into a WZ, I am having a good time. I don't need much more than that. I am enjoying the time I am spending. If you aren't having fun, then why do it at all? Isn't pulling someone into an obstacle in Huttball reward enough? It never gets old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sconnoll Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 waaaaaa I'm bored waaaaaa!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMasterShake Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 The game has been out a little over a month from release. If you don't wish to wait it's probably better you find something which fits your level of patience. While your opinion is, um, admirable, the last several MMO releases have shown that - if you can't deliver your intended experience to players within the first month, you will lose them. You don't just have 6 months to take your time and get it all right. Look at GW2. They haven't and won't declare a firm release date because they are committed to their product ON DAY 1. Something that TOR (as surely influenced by EA) was clearly not committed to. They put the burden on us to slog through a buggy, unstable, unresponsive game until they had time to fix it. Let me tell you that you are in the minority. People don't play a game for 6 months waiting for it to get better. There is competition, and it's stiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygranir Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 While your opinion is, um, admirable, the last several MMO releases have shown that - if you can't deliver your intended experience to players within the first month, you will lose them. You don't just have 6 months to take your time and get it all right. Look at GW2. They haven't and won't declare a firm release date because they are committed to their product ON DAY 1. Something that TOR (as surely influenced by EA) was clearly not committed to. They put the burden on us to slog through a buggy, unstable, unresponsive game until they had time to fix it. Let me tell you that you are in the minority. People don't play a game for 6 months waiting for it to get better. There is competition, and it's stiff. You said stiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waypoc Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Does anyone just enjoy PLAYING anymore? When I go into a WZ, I am having a good time. I don't need much more than that. I am enjoying the time I am spending. If you aren't having fun, then why do it at all? Isn't pulling someone into an obstacle in Huttball reward enough? It never gets old. Yeah but that's not an MMO. Take the category MMO away from TOR and call it what it is and you are right. But sadly as long as they pretend to call it an MMO, it fails miserably. And what's in bold/yellow, I already canceled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomuningen Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Explain to me that earning gear is my end game. Once I complete my daily's and weekly's I have no point in playing once I hit BM. Tell me what's the fun in that? I see no difference from any other MMO on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygranir Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Yeah but that's not an MMO. Take the category MMO away from TOR and call it what it is and you are right. But sadly as long as they pretend to call it an MMO, it fails miserably. And what's in bold/yellow, I already canceled. But..... you are still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torothin Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 I see no difference from any other MMO on the market. Eve-Online.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jswizzle Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Guy said the other night was the *first* night he didn't log on and play? He many consecutive days had you been playing? You see that as a bad sign? If it's a bad sign it's because you haven't already taken a few days off the game. If all you are focusing on is the gear grind, I'm sorry but you are going to get burned out and disappointed. When I play I just try to enjoy the game. I try to get better gear, and I work on the PVP grind. It's not all I focus on though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waypoc Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 But..... you are still here. Yes I am for 19 more days.... and the clock ticks on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcadesSabboth Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 How many times must it be said--you have to give the development team time. There are not enough hours in the day or days in the year to create an entire universe AND fill it with every conceivable feature of pre-existing, popular MMOs. World of Warcraft didn't have arenas, battlegrounds or even honor points awarded for killing enemies in the open world in its first year, let alone first month. There were barely any mods, barely any dungeons (how many times did you run Stratholm over and over, followed by repeats of Onyxia/MC). All of this takes time to implement, especially when you consider that SWTOR is trying to advance the genre by adding a significant amount of voice acting to every facet of the game. GIVE. IT. TIME. But feel free to unsubscribe and stop posting in the meantime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torothin Posted January 31, 2012 Author Share Posted January 31, 2012 How many times must it be said--you have to give the development team time. There are not enough hours in the day or days in the year to create an entire universe AND fill it with every conceivable feature of pre-existing, popular MMOs. World of Warcraft didn't have arenas, battlegrounds or even honor points awarded for killing enemies in the open world in its first year, let alone first month. There were barely any mods, barely any dungeons (how many times did you run Stratholm over and over, followed by repeats of Onyxia/MC). All of this takes time to implement, especially when you consider that SWTOR is trying to advance the genre by adding a significant amount of voice acting to every facet of the game. GIVE. IT. TIME. But feel free to unsubscribe and stop posting in the meantime. 6 months is not giving it time? They sold many of us on this being a PvP game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mSum Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 6 months is not giving it time? They sold many of us on this being a PvP game. Dude don't waste your money waiting for BW. Cancel and come back in six months and check it out. Obviously the game doesn't have what you want yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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