Zinny Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Look I know merging servers normally means "This MMO is in trouble" but there are too many servers to begin with. I can only play in off-peak times and this is how it looks. My sever(and many others around this): Imperial Fleet: 32 Ilum: 8 Swiftsure: Imperial Fleet: 100+ Illum: 90 This is off-peak. Come on. Swiftsure is packed, lots of players, lots of pvp, it's great. Other servers feel dead because there are SO many. It's hard to get groups going with the lack of players and that's at 50. Being lower than 50 must have it near impossible. Places like Voss and Hoth have about 3-4 people on them. That makes all those heroic quests USELESS. Even if you don't merge, can we at least be given the chance to swap servers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggomy Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Reroll on that server? Some of us like having lower populations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pursang Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Do you really want 45 minute queues that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTornPanda Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Do you really want 45 minute queues that much? Do you have so little faith in Bioware that you would assume they can't intelligently merge servers while avoiding queue times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traft Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Just an idea, why don't you go create a character on a heavy population server? I like a quieter server, might be a lot of people on your server that would be miffed getting piled into an over-crowded server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pursang Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) Do you have so little faith in Bioware that you would assume they can't intelligently merge servers while avoiding queue times? The OP specifically mentioned "Bioware needs to merge servers so they are more like Swiftsure's population" and the last time I checked, the Swiftsure had an average queue time of 45 minutes. Sometimes, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Edited January 29, 2012 by pursang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinny Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 Reroll on that server? Some of us like having lower populations. I have but my level 50 is stuck on a server that's half dead and most servers are similar. I'm not saying merge ALL but do it so there are 10 or so servers like swiftsure rather than 80 low pop servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinny Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 The OP specifically mentioned "Bioware needs to merge servers so they are more like Swiftsure's population" and the last time I checked, the Swiftsure had an average queue time of 45 minutes. Sometimes, you can't have your cake and eat it too. That's at peak time only. And that can be fixed like any MMO with similar issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevetss Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) Well, also what time did you get these people online? at 4AM expect less also depening on time zone are you playing on a your time zone? Because my server is east coast Jedi covenant and we had in total 619 republic on at 1AM while we are sure the Imperials out number us by double that means they would gave somewhere around 800 people online. Go to your who tab and search up the other planets around noon server time to about 4PM and see how many are on servers are not as low as you think if werent for the number at the top you probably wouldnt even realize it. Edited January 29, 2012 by nevetss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pursang Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 That's at peak time only. And that can be fixed like any MMO with similar issues. Magic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggomy Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I have but my level 50 is stuck on a server that's half dead and most servers are similar. I'm not saying merge ALL but do it so there are 10 or so servers like swiftsure rather than 80 low pop servers. Didnt even take you 30 days to level it up. Reroll on the higher pop server we are talking years this game will be around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonBraun Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) I bought TOR for two of my friends... And they play on my server. The solution is to get more on the low pop servers. If you are asking to be able to transfer, aren't you just making the problem worse for that server you just left and everyone on it? Be part of the solution... Not part of the problem. Edited January 29, 2012 by LeonBraun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 The solution is to get more on the low pop servers. Wonder how they intend on doing that. Rogue Moon isn't that bad per se, tho we don't have any L50 bracket WZs until dailies reset (12:00 UTC), and even then it can go beyond 30+ minute queue times. Rerolling is an option, but.. the idea isn't that appealing to me. I'd rather just unsub and see again in few months if there are server transfers/merges or the population has grown enough to support L50 bracket WZs off-peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadslinger Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 They made the same mistake Rift made, opening too many new servers. These issues will only get worse And we all know how fast bioware is with dealing with issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TORProphet Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 You must not be aware that Swiftsure is the unofficial Oceanic PvP server. So trying to compare so called "offpeak" demographics from it's unique place in the TOR server landscape is pointless. You should do some research and never use an outlier like that as the basis for your argument. They would have to merge so many servers to get the offpeak numbers you are talking about that the queues in primetime would be intolerable. I don't think that's a viable solution. If you play offpeak and need more action, then find a server that provides it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traft Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 You must not be aware that Swiftsure is the unofficial Oceanic PvP server. So trying to compare so called "offpeak" demographics from it's unique place in the TOR server landscape is pointless. You should do some research and never use an outlier like that as the basis for your argument. They would have to merge so many servers to get the offpeak numbers you are talking about that the queues in primetime would be intolerable. I don't think that's a viable solution. If you play offpeak and need more action, then find a server that provides it. They could merge a hundred servers and not get the off-peak demographics unless you cloned us aussies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkcerb Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I'd wait an hour if it meant I could actually pvp, play in ilum and find groups. This is an mmo the game shouldn't end when you hit the lvl cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moaky Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Server merges for off hour gamers would be silly. It would impose a penalty onto those playing during primetime, when all servers reach "normal" or higher status. As indicated by others, make a character on another server. I got into EA on the 2nd day, and by the 4th day I could no longer log into my server, so I went to 2 "light" servers(1 for rep chars, and other for IMP chars). Since I am playing for PVE, I dont worry about PVP. It works great for me. Doing the opposite(IE going to servers that are full latenight) should work great for you. Also note....with the issues the game has currently, and some more tuning/end game stuff needing to be done, we dont know how things are going to shake out. BW could keep racking up subs if they do good, or they bomb so we do need mergers. It makes no sense to throw in the towel now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalkrates Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Magic? no, Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forumname Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Also note....with the issues the game has currently, and some more tuning/end game stuff needing to be done, we dont know how things are going to shake out. BW could keep racking up subs if they do good, or they bomb so we do need mergers. It makes no sense to throw in the towel now. They could still re-open more servers in the future if need be. Why the anti-server merger people always try to equate merge = Fail is beyond me. Mergers are not the cause of MMO fail. It's just that some MMOs that are failing use server mergers to keep the MMO feel of the game for the subscribers who sticked. People who use high pop servers statictics to show that mergers are not needed are just validating what people in the low pop servers want for themselves, a lively community. People in the low pop servers do also invest a lot of time and emotion into their current toons, in fact probably more than those in the higher pop servers. Asking some of those people to re-roll is not an ideal option to them. Lastly, I really can't stand the constant trolling coming from some of the people who feel "elite" because they struck through two hours of server queues and are "enjoying the fruits of their labour". Not everyone started out in a high pop server and those who re-rolled are also the reason why those queues were two hours long instead of three or four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PjPablo Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Reroll on that server? Some of us like having lower populations. Thats a great strategy if you want to lose subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smexymage Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I think the whole re-roll advice is total bull. If someone invested time in a char to get them to 50, it is unfair to tell them to re-roll and go through all of that pain again. Besides, a lot of people have a certain amount of sentimental value attached to a character and t just doesn't feel the same when you re-roll. I agree in that there are too many servers. Worlds feel dead, I barely ever run across the opposite faction and don't see that much of my own around either. I think the game has a healthy number of subs for the length of time it's been out, think its around 1.7 million - the population just needs to be less spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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