JBGames Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 I think you should leave that to the vets. You new guys should really just focus on improving your skills. Whats funny is I look at your post history and you reply with the same msg to every nerf sorc/sage post. My question to you is what level is your sage and what server do you play on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercaptain Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Good Sorcs are beaten by good players. Why is it so difficult for people to understand that it's more you than the design. Some things may be unbalanced, but nothing is totally out of whack. Why don't you run some matches with a VR 60+ sorc, and talk to them about what gives them problems? Try and learn. Good Operatives are beaten by good players. Didn't stop BW from kicking the **** out of us and probably won't stop them from kicking the **** out of sorcs and mercs. Edited January 27, 2012 by Supercaptain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitigated Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Let's see you can fire a gun, use a knife, fire missles from your wrist, use a lightsaber, or shoot frickin lightning from your hands. Now which of these would you pick in real life? I would pick a Sorc, so i can shoot frickin lighting from my hands AND use a lightsaber!!!! ziiiiiiiiiing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBGames Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 My prediction is a sorc/merc/op nerf all at once. I believe Bioware is holding off on Operative nerf so that they can re-balance everything in one patch and be done with it for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 My prediction is a sorc/merc/op nerf all at once. I believe Bioware is holding off on Operative nerf so that they can re-balance everything in one patch and be done with it for a while. Its always cute to hear the new guys making predictions about a game they can barely play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBGames Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Its always cute to hear the new guys making predictions about a game they can barely play. You didn't answer my last question? What sever does your Sage play on ? What level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 You didn't answer my last question? What sever does your Sage play on ? What level? Its also funny when new guys think "character level = skill" (when we vets know that character level = time played). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBGames Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Its also funny when new guys think "character level = skill" (when we vets know that character level = time played). Again .... no answer? hahaha but anyways back to talking about the nerf. What do you think is wrong with your sage? How can we fix it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lugh Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I would pick a Sorc, so i can shoot frickin lighting from my hands AND use a lightsaber!!!! ziiiiiiiiiing! Well you get one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astarica Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Title should be changed to merc/commando instead of sorc/sage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalmeseReb Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I know right!!! I hate you damn Scoundrels. I typically die by them the most in WZs. Cant say I die much in Illum because I sit there with the Sith zerg and just lag AOE lol for 30 mins then get the heck out of there. But yes there are particular classes that are designed to handle their so called nemisis class. Learn how to exploit our weaknesses and you will do better against us. ...or roll a smuggler and kick me in the snooch all day long! Scoundrel is getting nerfed so bad because they were the only class that countered Sorc Hard. have fun with your OP class while it lasts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Ya I know your great at the copy and paste button. I saw the last 15post you pasted this on. Again I ask how do we fix your sage? I tried to explain it to you in length. Maybe I should try the short version: l2p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBGames Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Scoundrel is getting nerfed so bad because they were the only class that countered Sorc Hard. have fun with your OP class while it lasts I have a 50 opeative in full PvP gear. Any Sorc with the cc breaker up can easly kill an Operative and thats before the nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBGames Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 I tried to explain it to you in length. Maybe I should try the short version: l2p What level is your sage? What Server? What name? I would love to roll a Sorc on that server so i can show you how overpowered they are.... I am bored a bit on my server as I almost have my 2nd level 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slonep Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Title says it all. Its as simple as this Not sure what this means... I think he means "you are a poor player" Bubble, Affliction, Stun, Chain lightning, Chainlighting Check bubble(if down force run away/rinse and repeat).. Every class has an ability rotation. Every Sorc does not use these skills or this rotation. If you're not able to defend your light armored Sorc/Sage character and you run away you're playing smart. It's not something to be assamed of. Force run needs a 3min CD, Bubble needs a 2min CD(non-healer spec), Chain lightning needs to not do as much damage as the sniper series of shots w/ 50% snare. At this point I'm pretty sure you've recently been killed by a Sorc/Sage in PVP and are upset by it. I don't think that means all of the Sorc/Sage abilities need large cooldowns. I think there will be a sorc nerf that comes through with OP nerf. It seems they are holding the OP nerf back a bit. Thoughts? I don't think Sorc/Sage nees to be adjusted or "nerfed". I play a Sorc and I feel that the PVP gameplay for this class is very balanced. I'm killed by good players/teams often and I kill poor players often. Edited January 27, 2012 by slonep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 What level is your sage? What Server? What name? I would love to roll a Sorc on that server so i can show you how overpowered they are.... I am bored a bit on my server as I almost have my 2nd level 50 Again, the reason you lose to sorc/sages is not because they are op, its because you suck. Try not sucking first, then we can talk about things like class balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talizzar Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 The OP obviously knows that every skill the Sorc has is instant cast. Let the nerf wars continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogfatherxx Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 What level is your sage? What Server? What name? I would love to roll a Sorc on that server so i can show you how overpowered they are.... I am bored a bit on my server as I almost have my 2nd level 50 I like how he avoided your challenge...that alone lets you know what your dealing with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBGames Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Again, the reason you lose to sorc/sages is not because they are op, its because you suck. Try not sucking first, then we can talk about things like class balance. Ill look through your post history... See if I can get any hints from that. But back to the topic. Force run--> 2Min CD Bubble--> 1min CD Force Lightning--> decrease snare and damage ( it does as much damage as mach level 36 sniper ability that has a 15sec CD) Do these and we have balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogfatherxx Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Ill look through your post history... See if I can get any hints from that. But back to the topic. Force run--> 2Min CD Bubble--> 1min CD Force Lightning--> decrease snare and damage ( it does as much damage as mach level 36 sniper ability that has a 15sec CD) Do these and we have balance If you look at his post history, you will see that he is a likely candidate to get reported for spam...if it hasn't happened already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrekorSilverfang Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Let's see you can fire a gun, use a knife, fire missles from your wrist, use a lightsaber, or shoot frickin lightning from your hands. Now which of these would you pick in real life? Firing ICBM's from my wrist seems legit. I'll go with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolsaber Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I want to see some videos of Sorcs owning people in a stun cycle like Operatives were. Hook me up people! Ill be waiting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calista_ZK Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 To the OP. It is rare to find a Sorc that will say they are overpowered. With such a large percentage of people playing one, you are going to be hard pressed to get a lot of people to support your arguments, especially on thse forums. They are no different than any other class in that they don't want to get nerfed. You should understand that from playing an operative. I will say that there is a reason that so many people play Sorcs, and its not just because they shoot lightning. LOL or...because sorcs AREN'T....old bad argument is getting really old. Maybe many people play them because the class has versatility and appeal in PVE AND PVP and players can choose a DPS OR healing spec as well... Shooting lightning is fun...blah blah We get the same old argument- OP..again 1x1 a sorc is not OP..if played intelligently, 2x1 or more, sure, they make a good team- but don't confuse OP with an actual class imbalance. Put together a couple of commandos working together as well on a team, you'd get the same screams of OP in a WZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I want to see some videos of Sorcs owning people in a stun cycle like Operatives were. Hook me up people! Ill be waiting... ROFL! There are no sorc/sage videos "owning people" because ..... they don't. Sorc/Sage is a "moderate but consistent DPS class with utility" not a "pwn everyone" or "pwn you in 3 GCDs" class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBGames Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 I want to see some videos of Sorcs owning people in a stun cycle like Operatives were. Hook me up people! Ill be waiting... They don't own people like that.. You know that. Your Sorc has infinite get out of jail cards. Force run, bubble, Force lighning thats out of wack. If you die as a sorc 1on1 you are doing something wrong. ps the operative is getting nerfed as it probably should have been tuned down a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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