ShaggNasty Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Please BW...make there be a debuff on all people who quit WZ's that they cannot que for another WZ for 20-30 minutes. This would not 100% stop people from leaving warzones they are losing but it sure would make them think hard about it. I absolutely HATE when I get a que pop and OMG its Huttball...My team 0 Enemy team 5...REALLY?? That is fantastic...Oh and then Alderaan...join and wow...all three turrets controlled by the other team, and they're camping everyone outside of the spawn. Our score is 35 (and going down fast) and they still have 550...WOW...how fun is that.. ITS NOT FUN THATS THE POINT There needs to be something done about people leaving Warzones mid game. If they stay and fight at least there is still a chance to win, or at least it prevents people like me from joining into a game that lasts 60s or less. Warhammer Online had the same issue with people leaving Scenarios at first and this is exactly what they did to prevent it. Debuffed cannot que for Scenarios for 30 min. It sure fixed their problem, we need a fix too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callo Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Please BW...make there be a debuff on all people who quit WZ's that they cannot que for another WZ for 20-30 minutes. This would not 100% stop people from leaving warzones they are losing but it sure would make them think hard about it. I absolutely HATE when I get a que pop and OMG its Huttball...My team 0 Enemy team 5...REALLY?? That is fantastic...Oh and then Alderaan...join and wow...all three turrets controlled by the other team, and they're camping everyone outside of the spawn. Our score is 35 (and going down fast) and they still have 550...WOW...how fun is that.. ITS NOT FUN THATS THE POINT There needs to be something done about people leaving Warzones mid game. If they stay and fight at least there is still a chance to win, or at least it prevents people like me from joining into a game that lasts 60s or less. Warhammer Online had the same issue with people leaving Scenarios at first and this is exactly what they did to prevent it. Debuffed cannot que for Scenarios for 30 min. It sure fixed their problem, we need a fix too. They already get punished for leaving. You lose any comms and credits/xp youwould have gotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComeAndSee Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Then you will see massive amount of afking in matches that have gone bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forkrul Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'd say 1 hour debuff where you can't queue for warzones or gain ANY valor or kill credit from open world pvp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callo Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'd say 1 hour debuff where you can't queue for warzones or gain ANY valor or kill credit from open world pvp. Wait you get something from open world PvP to begin with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggNasty Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Then you will see massive amount of afking in matches that have gone bad. Nope, it would be completely stupid to AFK in the match. If you did, you get booted out for inactivity...second...if the match is going bad, its still better to fight and defend to get more medals for more comendations...it would make no sense to AFK whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggNasty Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 They already get punished for leaving. You lose any comms and credits/xp youwould have gotten. No...thats lame, thats not punishment...you start to lose and you leave then get into another group that loses and you leave and get into another that starts to win...You just effectively jacked up two other peoples games ... At the very least two new people will join...and then you reap the benefits of getting your daily quest finished / more medals and coms for getting in a better group that wins and bonus for winning...how is that any type of balance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartBane Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 and the fact that i get kicked randomly. will that count as quitting because i bet it will. i should not have to wait because the game screwed up. i agree the people quitting are a problem but there is no easy answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maivi Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Well since there are currently tons of bugs with randomly getting droped from wz. randomly getting kicked to char select. the program randomly closing down. People still experience random freezes this isn't really viable atm as it punishes those players and there doing nothing wrong other then experiencing known bugs with the game that need addressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armaso Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Nope, it would be completely stupid to AFK in the match. If you did, you get booted out for inactivity...second...if the match is going bad, its still better to fight and defend to get more medals for more comendations...it would make no sense to AFK whatsoever. If you stand still yes, you will get booted. Autorun into a wall will keep your toon in a game. With the addition of a deserter timer it makes a great amount of sense to AFK instead of leaving the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Raze Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Please BW...make there be a debuff on all people who quit WZ's that they cannot que for another WZ for 20-30 minutes. This would not 100% stop people from leaving warzones they are losing but it sure would make them think hard about it. I absolutely HATE when I get a que pop and OMG its Huttball...My team 0 Enemy team 5...REALLY?? That is fantastic...Oh and then Alderaan...join and wow...all three turrets controlled by the other team, and they're camping everyone outside of the spawn. Our score is 35 (and going down fast) and they still have 550...WOW...how fun is that.. ITS NOT FUN THATS THE POINT There needs to be something done about people leaving Warzones mid game. If they stay and fight at least there is still a chance to win, or at least it prevents people like me from joining into a game that lasts 60s or less. Warhammer Online had the same issue with people leaving Scenarios at first and this is exactly what they did to prevent it. Debuffed cannot que for Scenarios for 30 min. It sure fixed their problem, we need a fix too. Just fix it so instead of 3 wins for the Daily its 5 warzones played instead.. easy fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savionen Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Maybe if they can actually start the games at 8vs8... Had 3 games this morning of 8vs6 or less, where nobody joined. I stayed hoping someone would join, but if we left we should be punished for that? How do you win a game when it's 8vs4 or 8vs5. If there's a 15-30min warzone deserter debuff I'd just AFK. Edited January 27, 2012 by savionen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA_Wookie Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Please BW...make there be a debuff on all people who quit WZ's that they cannot que for another WZ for 20-30 minutes. This would not 100% stop people from leaving warzones they are losing but it sure would make them think hard about it. I absolutely HATE when I get a que pop and OMG its Huttball...My team 0 Enemy team 5...REALLY?? That is fantastic...Oh and then Alderaan...join and wow...all three turrets controlled by the other team, and they're camping everyone outside of the spawn. Our score is 35 (and going down fast) and they still have 550...WOW...how fun is that.. ITS NOT FUN THATS THE POINT There needs to be something done about people leaving Warzones mid game. If they stay and fight at least there is still a chance to win, or at least it prevents people like me from joining into a game that lasts 60s or less. Warhammer Online had the same issue with people leaving Scenarios at first and this is exactly what they did to prevent it. Debuffed cannot que for Scenarios for 30 min. It sure fixed their problem, we need a fix too. They need to increase the damn afk timeout then too. I've had a couple of instances where i turn away for a couple of seconds after i died, missing the force field re-entry. By the time it lets me out again, i'm already afk'd out. They also need to fix the damn bugs too before they do this. I've also been bugged after being killed where it shows my character lying face-down on the ground in the re-spawn room, unable to perform any action at all. There's nothing you can do but wait for it to afk you out and then try and log back in. If i have to wait 30 minutes before i can get back in because of some pos bug, i'm not going to be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iheamylap Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I don't understand why someone wouldn't keep fighting even if they are loosing. Sure, you don't win the match, but the medal system and reward system is amazing in how it gives you rewards for just PLAYING and working. Folks who want to quit this should experience other PvP instanced systems that gave zero rewards to the losers. That's what I am used to, and this one is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-sasori Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Please BW...make there be a debuff on all people who quit WZ's that they cannot que for another WZ for 20-30 minutes. This would not 100% stop people from leaving warzones they are losing but it sure would make them think hard about it. I absolutely HATE when I get a que pop and OMG its Huttball...My team 0 Enemy team 5...REALLY?? That is fantastic...Oh and then Alderaan...join and wow...all three turrets controlled by the other team, and they're camping everyone outside of the spawn. Our score is 35 (and going down fast) and they still have 550...WOW...how fun is that.. ITS NOT FUN THATS THE POINT There needs to be something done about people leaving Warzones mid game. If they stay and fight at least there is still a chance to win, or at least it prevents people like me from joining into a game that lasts 60s or less. Warhammer Online had the same issue with people leaving Scenarios at first and this is exactly what they did to prevent it. Debuffed cannot que for Scenarios for 30 min. It sure fixed their problem, we need a fix too. Your first MMO with battlezones? Don't fight it. It's obvious. When people can not leave they will not fight either. Period. If you punish people for leaving WZs, they do "AFK" in a sense that they run against a wall in a remote corner. Will your game be better then if YOU and the AFK guy BOTH get commendation for utterly fialing? I will tell you why people currently "leave" WZs. - Exploit for the QUEUE. 14 Vs 8 - Speedhacker - Premades - Utterly incapable "AFK" players in your team - Utterly incapable "AFK" players in the opposing team - OP classes / unbalanced classes stacking Do you know what they have all in common? THEY WANT A GOOD FIGHT. But they are not going to get one, thus they leave. And they are some people who want easy wins with no effort. By "punishing" all people listed above you will get a lot more worse matches. READ "AFK" PEOPLE doing nothing and certainly not defending stuff. You know what get's you more enjoyable matches? FIXES. Fix the exploits and CREATE a working matchmaking system. PUGS vs PUGS. PUGS vs PREMADE (if the choose), PREMADE VS PREMADE. And the ability to choose your WZ. This should be your concern not some 5 year old revenge campain. I don't understand why someone wouldn't keep fighting even if they are loosing. Sure, you don't win the match, but the medal system and reward system is amazing in how it gives you rewards for just PLAYING and working. Folks who want to quit this should experience other PvP instanced systems that gave zero rewards to the losers. That's what I am used to, and this one is amazing. I take you don't pvp much? Or just plain lucky. If you are FORCED to face a full premade with full champ / BM gear you FEED them medals when you go down in 2 secs focus fire. Edited January 27, 2012 by -sasori Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briljin Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 So instead of leaving, they just AFK or worse help the opposing team? That is all adding a "deserter" debuff is going to do. They will just become total dead weight and deny you the chance to gain someone who will actually try in their place. Probably the only thing that should change is allowing a user to select if they want to only join fresh WZs or quick queue for whatever is open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traecoes Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hell no, don't add a debuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FakelZ Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I have sometimes huge fps problems and strange lags on map with turrets , and sometimes , quit this map on beginning , do I really most suffer 30 min debaf , or st*u and go play with 5-9 fps ? xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosimoo Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Simple: add a debuff and I will quit doing WZ's. I'm sure others feel the same. Do you really want less people PvP'ing? I leave WZ's if I'm teamed with bads who just don't know how to pass in Huttball, or if I join an in-progress losing match. I don't want to waste my time when playing this game. I need to win 3 matches, not PLAY 3 matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volkkor Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Wait you get something from open world PvP to begin with? Wait, theres open world pvp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimsane Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I need to win 3 matches, not PLAY 3 matches. Therein lies a large amount of why people are leaving. Change goal to complete warzones, let us pick our warzones so that we have fun in the ones we do complete, and give us an afk booting system so that scrubs can't mooch their way to their daily. Done. Compared to: 15 min+ debuff if you leave match, which would encourage you to stay and play more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustfinder Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 No to a 30 minute debuff. That is just too long. Besides if people leave who cares, others get added right away most of the time as it is. Not to mention if you get in one that is about to end win or lose in a couple of minutes that is just easy xp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankPowers Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Simple: add a debuff and I will quit doing WZ's. I'm sure others feel the same. Do you really want less people PvP'ing? I leave WZ's if I'm teamed with bads who just don't know how to pass in Huttball, or if I join an in-progress losing match. I don't want to waste my time when playing this game. I need to win 3 matches, not PLAY 3 matches. Add a debuff or I´ll consider stop playing WZ´s Yes, nobody wants to play in the losing team - but if ppl are allowed to just leave without any kind of a punishment - some1 else will join that WZ and be a guy in the losing team. I have nothing against playing a match where I am losing, as long as Im in from the start. If I get put in a losing match half-way in when there is nothing to do about it (due to time or amount of players in the match) its aweful. I dont think anyone wants to join a losing team - but they will keep on doing so if everyone is allowed to leave with out a debuff or something. Its a circle of losing matches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceUpercutt Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 change daily/weekly to simply playing 3/9 matches and a large part of your problem will be solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankPowers Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 change daily/weekly to simply playing 3/9 matches and a large part of your problem will be solved The problem is that there needs to be big reward in winning. I can imagine that many ppl will just run into a wall for an entire game or just jump around now and then if all they have to do is play matches in order to complete dailies. More xp or commendations or valor for winning isnt going to be enough for many players to bother. It is not a fun way to complete weeklies/dailies but lots of people will take the path of least resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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