SocraticSteve Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) Personally I can't wait to see the Legacy System fleshed out. I was thinking about possible rewards it could have, and I came up with an idea. Now I don't know if the tech is there for this, but I was thinking it would be cool if for a large amount of points (or as a high tier reward- however the system works) you could make one custom color crystal that is bound to your character. Now when you make the crystal you would have 2 sliders to manually pick the hue and then the saturation of the color. Then there would also be bonus effects to pick from. For example the black blade core or instead of the basic glow different particle effects like a flaming type blade, or a pulsating type blade, or shimmering, or swirling energy, or other effects. However this custom color crystal would be unique in that it doesn't have any stats of its own. Instead, it can absorb the stats of other color crystals. So you would still have to find a color crystal with the stats you want, but your blade or blaster bolt would continue to have the custom effect. You could also transfer item set bonuses. But this way we could have our saber look exactly how we want, but it wouldn't interfere with the game mechanics as it is a purely cosmetic item. This would also allow light siders to make a red blade and dark siders to make a blue or green blade (which I really want!) Devs, please consider some kind of system like this! For a force-user, the hue of their saber is practically part of their identity and it would be great to have the exact color we wanted. Pleeeeeeease. I'll bring cookies down to Austin! edit: also thanks go to Screamster for directing me to the Suggestion Box forum Edited January 26, 2012 by SocraticSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iCanUseTheForce Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 especially considering much of a jedi's armor is covered in robe. the saber is my highlight of their arsenal. /sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuroshimaiHD Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I'd like to add to the OP with customisable hilts. Hilts are just as important as blades. You change different sections of the hilt, such as the emitter, grip, buttons and bottom, with various choices for each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyrion Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 This would be a very good idea. Kind of like the personal crystal you get in KotOR II but with options to change it. Heck you can add in a mini quest where you go to some tomb or something and meditate on the force to make it change colors. Unfortunately I am pretty sure they won't implement this, at least not for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraticSteve Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 I'd like to add to the OP with customisable hilts. Hilts are just as important as blades. You change different sections of the hilt, such as the emitter, grip, buttons and bottom, with various choices for each. While I would definitely like to see customizable hilts at some point, it would take a bit more tech. About my idea, I don't know if a slider option is possible. If not, then at least have a large amount of options. I'm thinking red, red-orange, orange, yellow-orange, yellow, yellow-green, green, blue-green, cyan, a deeper blue, indigo, purple, and a red-purple. Then each hue would have 3 saturation options: the normal saturation, one that's a bit paler, and one that's paler still. This would be about 39 options in total. You could leave out a pure white option, in case those are going to be special loot or something. But still with a pale yellow or blue you could come close to a white saber. Largely, I don't understand the current morality restrictions on the colors. It seems to only serve as an obstacle to keep people from having their character look the way they want. I mean it doesn't add anything to the gameplay, and I feel it is completely pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalcoLombardi Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I kind of barely skimmed through your post, but a legacy reward that gives you a color crystal and you can choose it's color from a pallet of like 250 colors would be great. Or you could do a quest where you find your own crystal on Ilum and choose again from like 250 colors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraticSteve Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Oh and a quick clarification of my idea: When I said the custom color crystal absorbs the stats of other crystals, what I meant was that the custom crystal would essentially "eat" the normal crystal and would then have the stats of the eaten crystal. So you couldn't like copy a powerful crystal, because the original crystal is destroyed in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valero Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I think this is a great idea! I agree with another poster also. My chosen Ligthsaber colour is Purple (Similar to Mace Windu's). Yes a lot of players want this colour but why it is so difficult? Clearly it isn't for Inquisitors/ NPC Sith as a level 30 was killing me with one so I'm not sure what purpose it serves. For a lot of players games serve as another reality/ identity for them and you have given us everything except the main thing that matters! Fully customizable Lightsabers. Every player who wants to be a force users dream! I agree that hilts would take some doing but I agree with this colour idea as a legacy item and the "stat absorption" idea is cool, but only to say crafted items perhaps? Bigger bader crystals found wouldn't be eligible because there "unstable" to add the lore say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraticSteve Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 Well, I included the stat absorption part for 2 reasons. 1. So it wouldn't effect the current crafting system and economy. This way you would still have to upgrade and spend money/resources on getting new crystals. & 2. So that you could transfer over those rare stats, that way you could have the desired stats and the custom appearance you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evgen Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I like the idea, but I think "crystal merging" should be allowed in the game as a simpler function. Have a colour you like? Whether rare or from a limited source, pre-order etc, and want to keep using it? have a function to keep the colour while absorbing the stats of another crystal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxsabe Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 i like this idea very much, personally i thought the "color stone" you get/got with the pre-order was a stone where the player could pick the color it wanted, BOY was i disappointed :/ wen i used the stone, ugly black Yello for a sith djeeez if it was Black-core RED glow i would have bin ecstatic and for jedi Black-core Blue or Green glow. but nooooo ugly yellow lolz anyways what is, is. Vote +1 for this color crystal idea from the op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnamble Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I'm not familiar with all the mechanics involved, so this may or may not work: what if certain crystals (legacy, endgame, w/e) allowed you to just enter the hex code for whatever color you wanted? I think you can be a little more lax with the lore aspect at lvl 50, especially considering a light V sith has pretty much been trying to be good this whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajikMyst Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) I am just going to have to say that in the current scheme of things.. This is a bad idea.. It totally bypasses the tasks needed to complete to obtain rare colors like purple.. So in that sense.. I am going to have to give this idea a thumbs down.. Sorry.. I would however go for custimized saber blade effects.. Anyone who has played forced unleashed knows what I am talking about.. I would even go for the ability to add a 2nd color so our sabers.. Simular to the prelaunch crystal which is black and yellow.. I would like to see one that is red and blue or yellow and green.. Who knows.. But any idea that tramples on the rarity of something or the quest to get something rare is a bad one in my opinion.. Edited February 8, 2012 by MajikMyst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarikLaw Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I love the idea, but agree that it needs to be leashed to something else other than Legacy. Perhaps Artifice with some colours being harder to replicate/create than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evgen Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I am just going to have to say that in the current scheme of things.. This is a bad idea.. It totally bypasses the tasks needed to complete to obtain rare colors like purple.. So in that sense.. I am going to have to give this idea a thumbs down.. Sorry.. .... But any idea that tramples on the rarity of something or the quest to get something rare is a bad one in my opinion.. Yeah, but it's only rare for now, when something better comes out, with an expansion it will be gone. And there are tons of level 15 Elites with these in Dromond Kaas, so how rare can they be? See, you want some visible indication you've done something. You don't want what it actually is. There are a lot of people who feel the colour of your light saber is an important part of your character look. I am one of those. And it's highly visible, and there aren't any other customization options. It's not far off from saying force users are a special class you have to work to obtain. It may be logical, some people may agree, but a lot of people are playing to b a jedi. And another thing, currently all the people who do the same thing (PVP, Raiding) once again start to look the same. I HATE that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxsabe Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) I am just going to have to say that in the current scheme of things.. This is a bad idea.. It totally bypasses the tasks needed to complete to obtain rare colors like purple.. So in that sense.. I am going to have to give this idea a thumbs down.. Sorry.. I would however go for custimized saber blade effects.. Anyone who has played forced unleashed knows what I am talking about.. I would even go for the ability to add a 2nd color so our sabers.. Simular to the prelaunch crystal which is black and yellow.. I would like to see one that is red and blue or yellow and green.. Who knows.. But any idea that tramples on the rarity of something or the quest to get something rare is a bad one in my opinion.. yes i understand your point of view, but really whats the point of it, its not like that hard to get all the colors, stay neutral and you can have all the colors you want! as far as i know the colors work like this, "you can't be dark 1 or higher" or "you can't be light 1 or higher" so neutral is neither and so lets you use all the colors! at-least that's why i stay neutral and so far it worked like i said it. But again yes i see your point of view and to give in to that point of view lets just say then, some colors won't be used for that trype of color stone, locked out! ain't that hard to put that rule in. but at-least a "Pink" saber would be possible oh yeah pink guilded sabers i can see them already in my mind lolz. Vote +1 for the OP's idea. Yeah, but it's only rare for now, when something better comes out, with an expansion it will be gone. And there are tons of level 15 Elites with these in Dromond Kaas, so how rare can they be? See, you want some visible indication you've done something. You don't want what it actually is. There are a lot of people who feel the colour of your light saber is an important part of your character look. I am one of those. And it's highly visible, and there aren't any other customization options. It's not far off from saying force users are a special class you have to work to obtain. It may be logical, some people may agree, but a lot of people are playing to b a jedi. And another thing, currently all the people who do the same thing (PVP, Raiding) once again start to look the same. I HATE that. yes true to that, and did i not hear some guy say in a Star wars movie that the Jedi picks the color of its own light-saber as part of the ritual... something something, not sure witch movie i'v seen that. so ain't it normal for us to pick the color of the light-saber we use or em i totally wrong here, could be like i said not 100% sure. Edited February 8, 2012 by Noxsabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okedo Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Personally I can't wait to see the Legacy System fleshed out. I was thinking about possible rewards it could have, and I came up with an idea. Now I don't know if the tech is there for this, but I was thinking it would be cool if for a large amount of points (or as a high tier reward- however the system works) you could make one custom color crystal that is bound to your character. Now when you make the crystal you would have 2 sliders to manually pick the hue and then the saturation of the color. Then there would also be bonus effects to pick from. For example the black blade core or instead of the basic glow different particle effects like a flaming type blade, or a pulsating type blade, or shimmering, or swirling energy, or other effects. However this custom color crystal would be unique in that it doesn't have any stats of its own. Instead, it can absorb the stats of other color crystals. So you would still have to find a color crystal with the stats you want, but your blade or blaster bolt would continue to have the custom effect. You could also transfer item set bonuses. But this way we could have our saber look exactly how we want, but it wouldn't interfere with the game mechanics as it is a purely cosmetic item. This would also allow light siders to make a red blade and dark siders to make a blue or green blade (which I really want!) Devs, please consider some kind of system like this! For a force-user, the hue of their saber is practically part of their identity and it would be great to have the exact color we wanted. Pleeeeeeease. I'll bring cookies down to Austin! edit: also thanks go to Screamster for directing me to the Suggestion Box forum I am a Jedi Consular Sage and I approve of this message! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraticSteve Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 First of all, thank you so much for the support and comments! Please continue to add your thoughts! I am just going to have to say that in the current scheme of things.. This is a bad idea.. It totally bypasses the tasks needed to complete to obtain rare colors like purple.. So in that sense.. I am going to have to give this idea a thumbs down.. Sorry.. Believe me, I completely understand and actually agree with your opinion. I mean I don't want people that did the extra work to feel cheated. But that is why I was so disappointed when I found out that different colors were rarer or restricted in certain ways. I was hoping all colors would be easily obtainable for everyone. Like I said for Force-users their saber color is practically half of their identity, and I am big on customization and believe you should be able to make your character look however you want. But you see in my idea I'm trying my best to keep them rare. My idea was that you would have to spend a large amount of Legacy points or whatever to create this special color stone. This is important for a couple reasons. 1. Some players may not play a Jedi/Sith, so the color may not be as important to them. These people would opt to not spend the points on the color stone and instead spend them on other rewards like special weapons or clothes. (I'm hoping these are other possible rewards.) & 2. So far I believe the only rare colors are Magenta, Purple, and Cyan. That's only 3 of the possible colors, and in order to gain these colors with this special stone you would really REALLY have to want that exact color, because you'd be spending a large amount of Legacy rewards on it. So I really believe it wouldn't effect it too much. But believe me I fully understand the concern. I suppose my main problem is that for my main character I REALLY want a green saber. But he is currently at Dark 4, with more then 6000 dark side alignment. Now I am actually having to consider farming Light side points somehow JUST so I can have the color I want. This would take a ridiculous amount of work. I'm thinking the best way may be to actually drop Underworld Trading which I have leveled to almost 300 for Diplomacy. I would then have to pump tons of money into Diplomacy in order to get my alignment to where I need it, and then I'd have to RESPEND all the money I have already spent in order to then get my Underworld Trading back to where it is now. This is an INSANE amount of work I'd have to do JUST because I want to be a dark-sider with a green saber. Work I don't believe I should have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shlumper Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Instead of absorbing a crystal, why not add a mod slot to make one stat crystal and one color crystal? Also, to those pointing out that getting rare colors is a big goal, having stats and rarities pushes everyone to have either the best or the rarest color endgame. So everyone has the rare endgame color; what good is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imMandalorian Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Jedi can realign crystals tainted by the dark side i dont see why that could not be some type of thing where it drains lots of energy and resources and maybe take a couple days to complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraticSteve Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Instead of absorbing a crystal, why not add a mod slot to make one stat crystal and one color crystal? Actually this is a pretty good idea. I guess I was just trying my best to work within the current system, but if it is possible to make a new mod slot for weapons this would be great. The big problem is that this would involve converting all the current crystals and altering the Artifice crafting skill. (Can Armstech make color crystals? If so then that would be effected too.) Basically requiring a whole lot of work, but it might be worth it. Even then, I would still like to see a reward in the Legacy system, or from some other way, that would let you make a custom color crystal with your choice of hue and particle effect. Edited February 14, 2012 by SocraticSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinMaki Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 +10000 to this Im going for purple or white or cyan either way i have 2 sabers anyway LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leiralei Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 A thousand times signed. The colour of a lightsaber is a very personal thing and shouldn't be tied to rare stats and elitism, but should reflect the choice and personality of the wielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraticSteve Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 So morality restrictions on crystals are being removed, and 1.2 is supposed to bring some changes to Artifice involving crystals. Yay! Overall, I would still like to see a much wider range of crystal colors available, as well as selectable lightsaber effects like flames, lightning, pulsating, swirling energy, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOAI Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Color Crystal Forge -Locations would be on Korriban and Tython maybe Coruscant and Drommund Kaas -You could only place 2 color crystals in the forge at the same time -Crystals must be same level, stat, and stat value -Color crystals will be based on additive color system since a lightsaber and blaster bolts work similar to lasers or emitted light -Gray and Black sabers could be special crystals -Only Primary Colors (Red, Green, and Blue) and Secondary Colors (Magenta, Yellow, and Cyan) could be placed in the forge -Putting in the same color would result in the same color back -Possible Colors and Combos -Blue -Red -Green -Magenta = Red + Blue -Cyan = Blue + Green:D -Yellow = Green + Red -Pink = Magenta + Red -Orange = Yellow + Red:) -Lime = Yellow + Green -Teal = Cyan + Green -Royal Blue = Cyan + Blue -Purple = Magenta + Blue:D -White = Magenta + Green = Cyan + Red = Yellow + Blue:D -Magenta + Cyan = Blue -Cyan + Yellow = Green -Yellow + Magenta = Red -The current Magenta could be changed to be unique -To keep the market for Yellow and Orange crystals the same one might need 300 artifice to use the color crystal forge to make Secondary Colors and 400 artifice to make Tertiary and White Colors -Adding something that costs credits that can be purchased from a vendor could be needed to use the Color Crystal Forge -This would make 13 color crystals in game and still allow specialty crystals to be black, gray, or textured colors -Being able to add tertiary color crystals in the forge would add 12 more colors and I can not think of names for all of them:confused: -The reason why the forge would not be able to make a black color crystal is because in the additive color system black is the absence of all color or is not in the visible color spectrum. Black lasers do not exist or are not visible to the human eye. -The additive or emitted color system is different than the subtractive or reflected color system, the one with Red (Magenta), Yellow, and Blue (Cyan) being the primary colors and white being the absence of all color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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