stevediaman Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I was wondering what stats affect force sweep the most because i am trying to get the maximum damage possible. Im currently running full vindicator pvp gear and even swapped a few of the enhancements for more surge rating and found that critical multiplier caps at around 100% for regular attacks and 130% for force attacks. I use the rataka surge stim, and the critical/surge relic but even then critical multiplier caps so using both together is not necessary. would any other stat make a significant difference in force sweep damage? the best hit ive done in a level 50 bracket was around 5100, but that was once out of maybe 100 sweeps and the average hit i do is around 3000. any advice would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faolon Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) Power and Surge will give you the most bang for your buck, imo(Surge having higher priority up to the soft cap if there is one). Especially if you spec Focus and rely on the 100% crit chance from the Leaps. Edited January 26, 2012 by Faolon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevediaman Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 there definitely is a cap on surge cause i think my force multiplier is 120%, and w/ the rataka surge stim it goes to 128% and if i use the crit relic it goes to like 128.25%. so i probably need to get my hands on some power relics or a power stim/adrenal and do some experimenting. is force power the same as regular power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VertisReaper Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 force power and power are not the same. if you check your stats you will see the benefits of each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atamasama Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 This might not be necessary to say, but I feel that I should point out that Strength increases all damage you do, so don't forget it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atamosk Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I go with power and surge, my dmg keeps going up. im 43 and my dmg outside of pvp is breaking 3000. so thats what i will keep doing until i have significantly tested it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgadan Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I was just looking at this myself... as its a force attack, on paper if you were a willpower build rather than strength then you would do more dmg, as you get 0.22 dmg for evey point in willpower, were strenght only gives 0.20 dmg per point shame there arnt a few more force power skills to the class as a willpower/ force, sentinel could be a option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhavim Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I was just looking at this myself... as its a force attack, on paper if you were a willpower build rather than strength then you would do more dmg, as you get 0.22 dmg for evey point in willpower, were strenght only gives 0.20 dmg per point shame there arnt a few more force power skills to the class as a willpower/ force, sentinel could be a option and then you'd be rolling on shadow/sage gear and alot of QQing would be involved, i'm very glad biowawre devided gear as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elyx Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 and then you'd be rolling on shadow/sage gear and alot of QQing would be involved, i'm very glad biowawre devided gear as is. Not to mention that will and str are usually mutually isolate. I have yet to find a piece of gear (non-custom) that has both. even if you were to add will via a custom piece...your giving up Str with affects all your other skills. Not really sure a minute increase on one skill justifies a similar reduction on all your other skills combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgadan Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Not to mention that will and str are usually mutually isolate. I have yet to find a piece of gear (non-custom) that has both. even if you were to add will via a custom piece...your giving up Str with affects all your other skills. Not really sure a minute increase on one skill justifies a similar reduction on all your other skills combined. its not really that a minute increase, 0.22 dmg per point over 0.20 in strength, is a 10% increase to all skills that deal force dmg! (by rolling with willpower over strength) im sure every class would like a 10% dmg increase and Force sweep isnt the only Sentinel skill to do force dmg, there are a few... just sadly not enough to be worth doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elyx Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) its not really that a minute increase, 0.22 dmg per point over 0.20 in strength, is a 10% increase to all skills that deal force dmg! (by rolling with willpower over strength) im sure every class would like a 10% dmg increase and Force sweep isnt the only Sentinel skill to do force dmg, there are a few... just sadly not enough to be worth doing it Thank you for the details, I didn't know that! Still ends up being the same thing tho not enough skills to justify the increase...aka you would lose more damage then you would gain overall. Edit: which I'm happy about actually. having to deal with multiple sources for your stats is interesting, but when your the only class that has to do it it really cuts into your productivity. Brings back memories of the WoW Paladin in vanilla and early BC...A tank that used spellpower as well as strength for damage, not counting the defensive stats as well major mess Edited January 30, 2012 by Elyx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atamosk Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 its not really that a minute increase, 0.22 dmg per point over 0.20 in strength, is a 10% increase to all skills that deal force dmg! (by rolling with willpower over strength) im sure every class would like a 10% dmg increase and Force sweep isnt the only Sentinel skill to do force dmg, there are a few... just sadly not enough to be worth doing it sure 10% would be nice but all your abilities that are focused on str as a boost would be 100% worse which would not make up for the 10% gain in force sweep. Altho alot of the abilities we do use are force so... this is interesting. does willpower really increase that stuff that redic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atamosk Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Brings back memories of the WoW Paladin healing in vanilla fixed (haha i played a vanilla pally) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgadan Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 sure 10% would be nice but all your abilities that are focused on str as a boost would be 100% worse which would not make up for the 10% gain in force sweep. Altho alot of the abilities we do use are force so... this is interesting. does willpower really increase that stuff that redic Str only adds to your bonus dmg, so you wouldnt loose all the dmg for the skills that use str so your str skills should still deliver the dmg they say, just no bonus dmg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentinelBorg Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Btw, if you already Battlemaster and have Champion commendations left, you can get Endu/Pwr/Surge Enhancements from Trooper and Smuggler Champion gloves. They all have 48 Surge and either more Endurance or more Power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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